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JLaw seems like she's less popular and bankable since the Fappening. (It was of course not HER move that was at fault though.)

you got the people that hate her because of her saying the fappening was a sex crime
Cover Exclusive: Jennifer Lawrence Calls Photo Hacking a “Sex Crime”

then this year you got the whole thing at the golden globes with the guy and his cell phone
Jennifer Lawrence tells reporter off for using his phone at Golden Globes

then you got the people that hate her because she's a millionaire complaining about a wage gap
Jennifer Lawrence: "Why Do I Make Less Than My Male Co‑Stars?"

and now the Hawaii 'butt-scratching' story

then the people that just hate something because it's popular

 

[Beartruck]

Was she, and her studio, supposed to know there was going to be a nuclear-related incident 2 weeks after the film's release?

The film was hysterical propaganda about a fictional accident that permanently leaves Pennsylvania uninhabitable. Jane Fonda was also famously anti-nuclear energy. No, they couldn't have seen it coming, but they could've been responsible about their demonization of a crucial resource.

 

[jroc74]

Halle Berry in Catwoman, I guess?

This is the first person and role I thought of reading the title.

X Men probably saved her career.

 

[CaviarMeths]

Just to illustrate how much of the heat Gooding took, his co-star was Horatio Sanz, who would shortly move onto the main cast of SNL for a couple of years.

And now I just made you remember Horatio Sanz for the first time in what will feel like decades.

Man, I remember Horatio Sanz as the guy who looked like Oliver Platt's crackhead brother on SNL. Made me google him to see what he's up to these days and damn.

Turns out he's up to looking pretty fine for an almost 50 year old man.

 

[Manmademan]

What about Cameron Diaz? She was one of the biggest names in the 90s and early 00s...then she went on to make one shitty movie after another. Last big movie she was in was Shrek 3 I think

Cameron Diaz has a suprisingly solid resume after Shrek 3.

What happens in Vegas (2008)
My Sister's Keeper (2009)
Knight and Day (2010)
The Green Hornet (2011)
Bad Teacher (2011)
What to expect when you're expecting (2012)
The Counsellor (2013)
The other woman (2014)
Annie (2014)


She's fine, will likely still be in things for a few years yet. Some of you people really need to realize that actresses peak VERY early and by 30 their careers tend to be over or at least in steep decline, because of the kind of roles hollywood tends to write for female leads.

99% of the time it's going to be the love interest and it's going to skew young. You can't keep winning those roles forever before the next hot 19 year old actress comes along to screw you.

Diaz has an abnormally long career as a lead- 20 straight years since her debut role in the Mask in 1994. Probably due to not insignificant comedic chops. most actresses would kill for that kind of longevity.

 

[cordy]

Might as well rename this "celebrities" because it happens to musicians a good amount.

Trinidad James ended his career with that "the South runs NY" thing he said on an NY stage. Shit was ridiculous.

 

[SecretMoblin]

Diaz always struck me as someone talented enough that she could have easily transitioned into a strong indie/cult flick star the way other comedians like Jim Carrey and Bill Murray did. She was fantastic in Being John Malkovich.

 

[Manmademan]

Diaz always struck me as someone talented enough that she could have easily transitioned into a strong indie/cult flick star the way other comedians like Jim Carrey and Bill Murray did. She was fantastic in Being John Malkovich.

This is a lot easier for actors to do than it is for actresses.

Not saying it NEVER happens, but it's nowhere near as common.

 

[SirClinksAlot]

Shannen Doherty (Brenda on Beverly Hills 90210) turned into such a massive bitch on set and creator Aaron Spelling ended up firing her - which was a BIG deal as she was the star of the show.

Because she was so horrible (randomly not showing up to work, getting into fist fights with other cast members including Jennie Garth who played Kelly, etc) FOX were willing to anger 90210 fans and lose ratings just to get rid of Shannen.

Following her termination, Shannen was unemployable for over a decade as nobody wanted to hire her, so Aaron Spelling feeling guilty about firing her on 90210 decided to give her a second chance and cast her as the lead in his new show (Prue on Charmed).

He came to the realization that she was still a massive bitch and impossible to work with, and ended up firing her again.

She hasn't acted since.

She is really sick with cancer so that might be why she hasn't been in anything lately.

Also the girl from Precious is on Difficult People-Billy Eichners show on Hulu (its great).

 

[kswiston]

Sarah Michelle Gellar. She married Freddie Prince Jr.

Sarah Michelle Geller had a pretty typical career path for someone who starred in a TV show with a cult following.

 

[clearacell]

Terrence Howard and salary negotiation

How does this work when he's on one of the biggest TV shows out there

 

[Peccavi]

Jake Lloyd. The Phantom Menace ruined his life.

 

[Boney]

Water world

Shia Lebauf was being groomed to be Hollywood royalty and thankfully got rejected and spiraled into oblivion


I want justice and demand an explanation for Andie McDowell disappearing.

 

[Shmuppers]

Does Chris Benoit count

 

[Manmademan]

Sarah Michelle Geller had a pretty typical career path for someone who starred in a TV show with a cult following.

Gellar actually had a MUCH BETTER THAN TYPICAL career path.

Her big break was as a soap opera actress on All My Children from 1993-1995.

After that she landed:

Scream 2 (1997)
i Know what you did last summer (1997)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997-2003)
Small Soldiers (1998)
Cruel Intentions (1999)
Scooby Doo (2002)
Scooby Doo 2 (2004)
The Grudge (2004)
The Grudge 2 (2006)

and then it seems like career decline with movies I don't recognize and TV roles here and there and lots of voice acting after that.

Most soap opera actresses don't amount to much of anything, especially not that young.

 

[Rest]

Katie Holmes? She was like the "it" girl coming off Dawson's Creek, gets a role in a Batman reboot but right before release she boards the Tom Cruise crazy train and on the PR tour for Batman Begins she ends up promoting Cruises War of the Worlds. I remember her telling Letterman they should see that instead. Lol

Well it was the better movie.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Gellar actually had a MUCH BETTER THAN TYPICAL career path.

Her big break was as a soap opera actress on All My Children from 1993-1995.

After that she landed:

Scream 2 (1997)
i Know what you did last summer (1997)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997-2003)
Small Soldiers (1998)
Cruel Intentions (1999)
Scooby Doo (2002)
Scooby Doo 2 (2004)
The Grudge (2004)
The Grudge 2 (2006)

and then it seems like career decline with movies I don't recognize and TV roles here and there and lots of voice acting after that.

Most soap opera actresses don't amount to much of anything, especially not that young.

She took a break to have and raise her children.

 

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Gellar actually had a MUCH BETTER THAN TYPICAL career path.

Her big break was as a soap opera actress on All My Children from 1993-1995.

After that she landed:

Scream 2 (1997)
i Know what you did last summer (1997)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997-2003)
Small Soldiers (1998)
Cruel Intentions (1999)
Scooby Doo (2002)
Scooby Doo 2 (2004)
The Grudge (2004)
The Grudge 2 (2006)

and then it seems like career decline with movies I don't recognize and TV roles here and there and lots of voice acting after that.

Most soap opera actresses don't amount to much of anything, especially not that young.

She was the voice of the Barbie-like doll who really only had one scene. Hardly counts.

But, yes, I agree she has had a decent career. Being Buffy doesn't hurt, either.

 

[adamsappel]

She deserved to have her career ruined. She released an anti-nuclear energy film 12 days before the 3 mile island incident, which basically killed the future of nuclear energy in this country. We probably could've kicked our coal and gas addiction by now if not for that.

The film was hysterical propaganda about a fictional accident that permanently leaves Pennsylvania uninhabitable. Jane Fonda was also famously anti-nuclear energy. No, they couldn't have seen it coming, but they could've been responsible about their demonization of a crucial resource.

You don't see any problem with blaming an actress for her role in a movie causing anti-nuclear sentiment, rather than an actual nuclear reactor disaster?

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Robin Williams

 

[Mortimer Brewster]

Geena Davis - Cutthroat Island

She used to be a fairly known name. After that movie? Her career sunk immediately.

Cutthroat Island had a trifecta of career kills. It killed Geena Davis time as a bankable A Lister, it killed her husband Renny Harlin's career and it totally destroyed Carolco. Only one who came out unscathed was Frank Langella who after already been involved with a studio destroying clusterfuck with Cannon probably felt right at home.

 

[Retro]

I think The Postman had a lot to do with it too.

Costner ended up screwing his career from doing Waterworld, Tin Cup, and The Postman back to back to back- all three were pretty terrible, overwrought films that didn't review well or do any significant box office.

I think Waterworld is a fine enough movie, but at the time you have to remember that Kevin Costner was considered a Sure Thing and it was a big blow to his reputation as a bankable star regardless of whether it truly bombed or not. The Postman wasn't really "another" blow to his reputation, it was simply treated as confirmation of the fact.

 

[Ithil]

eh...waterworld gets way more hate than it deserves.

Wiki says the movie did 264 million on a 172 million budget- and this was before China was any kind of significant force in the overseas box office, and still while home video was still a substantial portion of sales on top of the box office. That movie was profitable- it's nowhere near a box office bomb.

Costner ended up screwing his career from doing Waterworld, Tin Cup, and The Postman back to back to back- all three were pretty terrible, overwrought films that didn't review well or do any significant box office.

edit: yeah, waterworld was profitable. The Postman though? holy shit what a bomb. 17 million box office on an $80 million budget. THAT one was probably the nail in the coffin for costner as a leading man.

A star can handle one bad film- three in a row tends to kill you though.

That's not how box office works. Studios get about half the gross of a film. The 172 does not factor in marketing costs, either.

 

[The Beard]

That's not how box office works. Studios get about half the gross of a film. The 172 does not factor in marketing costs, either.

Yeah, they basically have to make more than double the budget just to break even in most cases. Movie theaters aren't nonprofit organizations, they don't give movie studios 100% of the ticket price.

For the record, I like Waterworld. I've seen it probably 10 times and I own it on BluRay. Besides some goofy plot holes, it's entertaining as hell imo.

 

[this_guy]

That's not how box office works. Studios get about half the gross of a film. The 172 does not factor in marketing costs, either.

Wasn't it different back in the 90s? Back then theatres made their money on concession stands while the studio's collected the majority from box office receipts?

 

[strafer]

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Terminator 3.

 

[Forsaken82]

I'm pretty sure he just took a break from acting/fame

He took a break from Hollywood not acting. He has like 7 films lined up since Penny Dreadful finished.

 

[Mega]

Could have been huge if he had stayed on with IM2,3, and others.

Cheadle's role in the MCU has been meager at best since Iron Man 2. Howard is doing a lot better now with Empire.

 

[Retro]

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Terminator 3.

That had more to do with the fact that he was elected Governor of Kudyforneeia a couple months after it came out.

 

[bitbydeath]

Whatever happened to Charlie Sheens brother Emilio Estevez?

He done a lot of great movies, some would say The Breakfast Club was his best, but for me it was easily Young Guns and by a long shot.

 

[MattKeil]

Alicia Silverstone was a big deal until Batman & Robin killed her career momentum. Didn't do Chris O'Donnell any favors, either, but I'd say NCIS: Los Angeles counts as a recovery.

 

[pauljeremiah]

Whatever happened to Charlie Sheens brother Emilio Estevez?

He done a lot of great movies, some would say The Breakfast Club was his best, but for me it was easily Young Guns and by a long shot.

He does more work behind the camera now, directed Bobby about the RFK assassination and The Way staring his dad, both are pretty good.

 

[Retro]

Whatever happened to Charlie Sheens brother Emilio Estevez?

Wikipedia says he's directed for a bunch of TV shows and a couple indie movies, he's said in interviews that he's not one for a lot of publicity. I don't think the Mighty Ducks movies were so offensively bad as to be career-ending, even if the reception to the two sequels was pretty icy.

 

[Head of Vengarl]

Cause of Death: Marriage

Damn. The Mummy was my favorite movie when I was in middle school. It's just depressing to see him like that.

 

[Enzom21]

I would say C. Thomas Howell. While he has had consistent work for the past 30 years, he was on the verge of super stardom and then he did fucking Soul Man.
This piece of racist garbage torpedoed his career and now he only does bit parts or b movies.

 

[Ridley327]

Man, I remember Horatio Sanz as the guy who looked like Oliver Platt's crackhead brother on SNL. Made me google him to see what he's up to these days and damn.

Turns out he's up to looking pretty fine for an almost 50 year old man.

He's looking pretty good. A shame about the lack of comedic talent, though!

 

[Ridley327]

I would say C. Thomas Howell. While he has had consistent work for the past 30 years, he was on the verge of super stardom and then he did fucking Soul Man.
This piece of racist garbage torpedoed his career and now he only does bit parts or b movies.

I will never understand how this got made. I don't even understand how execs got their hands on this script and thought, "wow, this is a surefire hit and not at all offensive to everyone on the planet!"

 

[Zombine]

Episode I ruined Jake Lloyd's life.

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

Does O.J. Simpson count?

Fucking GOLD.

 

[Manmademan]

That's not how box office works. Studios get about half the gross of a film. The 172 does not factor in marketing costs, either.

already accounted for that. The film took in 260 million at the global box office, but was released when home video was much more robust than it is now.

from wiki:

Due to the runaway costs of the production and its expensive price tag, some critics dubbed it "Fishtar"[15] and "Kevin's Gate",[16] alluding to the flops Ishtar and Heaven's Gate, although the film debuted at the box office at #1.[17][18] With a budget of $172 million (and a total outlay of $235 million once marketing and distribution costs are factored in),[2] the film grossed $88 million at the North American box office. The film did better overseas, with $176 million at the foreign box office, for a worldwide total of $264 million.[3] However, even though this figure surpasses the total costs spent by the studio, it does not take into account the percentage of box office gross that theaters retain, which is generally up to half;[2] but after factoring in home video sales and TV broadcast rights among other revenue streams, Waterworld eventually became profitable.

Do you remember Blockbuster Video? Hollywood Video? Places like that? 1995/1996 was before DVD blew up by about..oh...4 years or so.

I was working in a blockbuster for a good chunk of 1997. New VHS tapes cost the chain 100 dollars a pop. I'm not sure how many video rental stores there were in the late 90s, but you're looking at dozens of copies at $100 a piece over thousands of stores.

and that's before getting into broadcast deals which were much more expensive.

Those revenue streams aren't as significant anymore.

 

[Fuchsdh]

I would say C. Thomas Howell. While he has had consistent work for the past 30 years, he was on the verge of super stardom and then he did fucking Soul Man.
This piece of racist garbage torpedoed his career and now he only does bit parts or b movies.

Isn't the whole point of that movie that Howell's character is an idiot and thinks blacks have it easy, and then realizes that people see him as some black guy instead of an actual human being and how wrong that is? I mean, I don't think the love interest would take back a guy who cheated her out of a scholarship, but I don't recall it being racist (though certainly going to hit some buttons).

 

[kswiston]

That's not how box office works. Studios get about half the gross of a film. The 172 does not factor in marketing costs, either.

Deadline had an article 3 years back about how Waterworld didnt really earn its place on the all time flop list. Basically, stories about the budget being out of control ran for months, so when it opened to above average but not spectacular 1995 blockbuster numbers, the press labelled it a bomb like it was cutthroat island.

Here's an estimated cost/revenue sheet that deadline ran for Waterworld. First column is 1995 numbers. Other columns adjust thst to current (as of 2013) market conditions. Grosses are in $1000s

 

[LudicrousSpeed]

He's looking pretty good. A shame about the lack of comedic talent, though!

If you listen to any alt-comedy stuff, he's actually very funny.

When I started to get into Comedy Bang Bang a few years ago I was like "Wait, Horatio Sanz? That guy from SNL? Ugh." but he's actually really funny. It was the thing that really made me understand that whether or not anyone on SNL came off as funny has a ton more to do with the quality of the writing than about the capability of the performer.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Come on now, we all know Hollywood movies don't turn a profit.

 

[Chojin]

Cameron Diaz has a suprisingly solid resume after Shrek 3.

What happens in Vegas (2008)
My Sister's Keeper (2009)
Knight and Day (2010)
The Green Hornet (2011)
Bad Teacher (2011)
What to expect when you're expecting (2012)
The Counsellor (2013)
The other woman (2014)
Annie (2014)


She's fine, will likely still be in things for a few years yet. Some of you people really need to realize that actresses peak VERY early and by 30 their careers tend to be over or at least in steep decline, because of the kind of roles hollywood tends to write for female leads.

99% of the time it's going to be the love interest and it's going to skew young. You can't keep winning those roles forever before the next hot 19 year old actress comes along to screw you.

Diaz has an abnormally long career as a lead- 20 straight years since her debut role in the Mask in 1994. Probably due to not insignificant comedic chops. most actresses would kill for that kind of longevity.

She's entering "Hollywood is now only going to cast me as an evil witch" age

(not being super serious)


Still, she had and has a pretty strong career.

 

[The Beard]

He's looking pretty good. A shame about the lack of comedic talent, though!

Shame on you!

He's a reoccurring guest on Comedy Bang Bang, and he's hilarious. I liked him on SNL too.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I saw a recent interview with Crispin Glover which made me feel kinda sorry for the guy. For years he's been known as the idiot who killed his career by asking for more money than Michael J Fox but according to Glover this is totally false and it was actually caused by creative differences with writer/producer Bob Gale. It's sort of a case of he said, she said but Glover comes off as pretty reasonable here and not the whackadoo I thought he was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmuGyHb4iHE

 

[Ridley327]

I saw a recent interview with Crispin Glover which made me feel kinda sorry for the guy. For years he's been known as the idiot who killed his career by asking for more money than Michael J Fox but according to Glover this is totally false and it was actually caused by creative differences with writer/producer Bob Gale. It's sort of a case of he said, she said but Glover comes off as pretty reasonable here and not the whackadoo I thought he was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmuGyHb4iHE

Yeah, I mentioned this earlier when someone brought up Glover. The thing that was especially sadistic on Bob Gale's part was how much hell he put Jeffrey Weissman (Glover's replacement in BttF2) through on that film, like making him feel like shit was really going to stick it to Glover.

 

[Reckheim]

Water world

Shia Lebauf was being groomed to be Hollywood royalty and thankfully got rejected and spiraled into oblivion


I want justice and demand an explanation for Andie McDowell disappearing.

Ehh, I think he is still a great actor and just does what he wants. Good for him and fuck the Hollywood lifestyle.

 

[wetwired]

Yeah Gibson had kind of faded away a bit by the time of his infamous rant. He was still directing occasionally but had slowly stopped acting over time. Not really a single event