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firehawk12

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I'd argue that you can make a difference by consuming less.

It's a change that doesn't require any purchasing power. Only will power.

I'm going to guess the problem is meat consumption. In the previous season, he already mentioned milk.
Basically everyone would have to agree to not eat beef/drink milk anymore to make any kind of impact, since cattle ranching is one of the biggest contributors to CO2.
 

zulux21

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And most people do not base their dietary calorie intake on their actual, physical caloric usage anyway.

I guess if you're eating nothing but rice and kale then maybe you're going to have to bird up to get the extra calories for all that walking, but if you're on most first-world diets you've got a couple thousand extra calories to spare before you have to start eating more to handle your pedestrian addiction.

yeah.... my diet doesn't really change if I sit around and do nothing or if I walk 10 miles *shrugs*

Basically everyone would have to agree to not eat beef/drink milk anymore to make any kind of impact, since cattle ranching is one of the biggest contributors to CO2.

and that won't happen.
you will have to kill me before I give up beef :p
same for my wife.
 
At the end of the episode it says the world won't end, it'll just be really shit. We're already making sure that to keep things as good as possible, but we'll need to change a lot about how we live.

The episode also drives home that consumer choices have a negligible impact on the environment alone, governments and corporations are the ones who need to change.

Consider how often people upgrade their smart phones. Just that alone ... now ask everyone to stop doing just that.

We're fucked.
 

zulux21

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Consider how often people upgrade their smart phones. Just that alone ... now ask everyone to stop doing just that.

We're fucked.

see that one on the other hand I am good.

I have only had two phones since 2009 and both of them were second hand.

I have never bought a new smart phone for myself.

that being said...

*looks at a pile of tablets*

:p
 
They're mostly just disingenuous.

No, you should not go out and buy a new electric car right now to lower your carbon footprint.

Yes, the next time you're going to buy a car anyway it should be an electric, if possible.

I don't think the stated positions even disagree with this, as such, they just bury the lead as deep as possible. I mean, it's right there in the episode: Americans bought seventeen million cars last year. People are going to buy cars, and it's better to buy energy-efficient cars if they do.

"People just shouldn't buy cars!" is kind of Babbeh's First Non-Useful Solution to the problem.
This. The EV clip is highly disingenuous. Even the transitioning of power from the car's motor to the grid still reduces the overall CO2 produced. And it's highly disingenuous to ignore the carbon footprint of the continuous extraction, refinement and transportation of gasoline/diesel.

Source: https://content.sierraclub.org/evguide/myths-vs-reality
 

Keasar

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I should have a slightly low carbon footprint if I didn't eat as much meat. I rarely upgrade electronic devices, my last 2 phones are hand-downs from parents and I wouldn't buy a "slim"/"pro"/"elite" version of consoles I already own, I stick with the one's I have until a completely new one is released. I've never owned a car and if I would be getting one a hybrid/Tesla would be a nice start to keep for a long time. I do however purchase stuff (board games, video games (though the latter mostly digitally now)) regularly.

So I think my biggest footprint is definitely my eating habits.
 

caliph95

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mantidor

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Ok this is the first time I feel I have to contest this show.

The freaking WHO recommends exclusive breastfeeding for at least the first 6 months, and to keep doing it for two years. From what I remember, it isn't just about nutrition, which I'm sure formula does indeed cover, but about antibodies and many other things that are passed to the child. Now if breastfeeding is not possible ok, but if its possible it should be the preferred feeding method, always.
 

otapnam

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Ok this is the first time I feel I have to contest this show.

The freaking WHO recommends exclusive breastfeeding for at least the first 6 months, and to keep doing it for two years. From what I remember, it isn't just about nutrition, which I'm sure formula does indeed cover, but about antibodies and many other things that are passed to the child. Now if breastfeeding is not possible ok, but if its possible it should be the preferred feeding method, always.

Yeah they skip alot in their video - it's totally the kind of thing where people could and would watch and believe whole heartedly without doing additional research.
 

AMUSIX

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Ok this is the first time I feel I have to contest this show.

The freaking WHO recommends exclusive breastfeeding for at least the first 6 months, and to keep doing it for two years. From what I remember, it isn't just about nutrition, which I'm sure formula does indeed cover, but about antibodies and many other things that are passed to the child. Now if breastfeeding is not possible ok, but if its possible it should be the preferred feeding method, always.

Not sure if you watched the segment, but it starts out with the mother saying that she first went for breastfeeding, but it didn't work, so she was advised to use formula. Then it goes on to say that formula was a life saver because of instances specifically when breast feeding wasn't possible.

It was also specifically addressing the BS that formula is detrimental to the kid, which it isn't.
 

Keasar

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Ok this is the first time I feel I have to contest this show.

The freaking WHO recommends exclusive breastfeeding for at least the first 6 months, and to keep doing it for two years. From what I remember, it isn't just about nutrition, which I'm sure formula does indeed cover, but about antibodies and many other things that are passed to the child. Now if breastfeeding is not possible ok, but if its possible it should be the preferred feeding method, always.

Yeah they skip alot in their video - it's totally the kind of thing where people could and would watch and believe whole heartedly without doing additional research.

Yeah I'm with AMUSIX here, they do say specifically that baby formula helps in those specific cases where the mother can't breastfeed, which was why it was invented. The underlying message is that breastfeeding is good, and should be done, and shouldn't be shamed by assholes if done in public. But if that option isn't available due to lack of nutrition, food insecurity, whatever-the-reason-might-be that the mother isn't producing milk, then formula is perfectly acceptable substitute.
 

Kthulhu

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Season 2 has started and the opener was fantastic about becoming and being early parents.

Who is also watching again?

I loved it. I also thought that formula was somehow not as good for babies as breast milk before this episode.

The bit about egg freezing and depression was pretty interesting too. Can't wait for next week's episode.
 

Keasar

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I like the interviews he had in the middle of the show to get some more answers about things. I hope they do more in other episodes.
 

NewFresh

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I liked the message of this episode. But felt there were some odd things that were omitted or very briefly mentioned. For one, when discussing risk presented by maternal age, he just throws out miscarriages as a brief one line, but the incremental risk of miscarriages seems to be real based on CDC data:

The miscarriage rate after ultrasound confirmation of pregnancy was approximately:
Under 15% at age 35 and under
29% at age 40
60% at age 44
And higher after age 44
 

The_Spaniard

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I'm going to ruin Adam for everyone.

Dude's got the most unnaturally soft hands I've ever felt. Met him a while back, and when we shook hands it felt like I was gripping a little silk pillow.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
 
Has he done a video ruining protein shakes?

I think last season he had one exposing the supplement industry and how it's not regulated well (or at all) so you're never quite sure what you're getting.

There are studies out there though that you can google showing the actual protein content of different powders. Some of them are pathetic.
 

Fury451

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I hate when what he's "ruining" is an extreme strawman of the show's own devising. I don't know anyone counting calories who assumes 2000 is the perfect number.

Most people (in the US at least) consider that to be the minimum for the day.

Poor education is part of the problem, so while it might seem like a strawman, it's not so extreme as it seems.
 

Maxim726X

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So, dieting lowers your metabolism? Didn't Fitness GAF told me that was a lie!?

No, extreme dieting does.

As in, when you drastically lower your calorie intake you're going to re-adjust your body's metabolism. This is why most diets don't drastically cut your calorie intake, because you will absolutely adjust.
 

zulux21

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Adam Ruins Extreme Diets: https://youtu.be/CKNmTjRBwfk

Adam Ruins Calories: https://youtu.be/Uv6J5jxi84o

I was hoping he would cover something I have never been able to get a firm answer on.

I get that the calories are just an estimate, but if you get say a can of fruit, does that estimate assume you are going to drink all the juice or only eat the fruit.

same with like bacon.
does that assume you eat it raw, just eat what you cooked, or eat what you cooked and then drink the grease?
 
Immediately recognized Hall.

If you want more on his study, there's a video called "the calculus of calories" that goes more in-depth.

I do have a methodology problem with his study on keto, which I'm therefore not a fan of, but this one is before that and much better.

edit: also, the view given in the video is kind of inaccurate going by his more detailed explanation. It's more like losing weight x means x fewer calories you can eat.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
They really fucked up with that most recent episode on Medical Care.
It draws conclusions that cannot be made with enough accuracy given the evidence.

It argues that Hospital costs are due to an agreement with insurance companies to inflate prices. Even if that was the only cause, why are hospitals not making record profits under such a scheme? It completely ignores those people without insurance and their ability to pay and additionally the requirement for hospitals to take any patient. It ignores what rates medicaid and medicare pay, and places the blame on hospitals and insurance companies. Such insurance companies who are now required to spend x% of their premiums on medical care.

Even worse, the source they quote for that segment:
http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/25/1/45.full.html
Goes into all of those other reasons.

Debunking 'old wives tales', other pseudoscience bullshit, and outdated notions is important, but they need to devote enough time and depth to critical issues like health care if they are going to cover them. At least the points about screenings and antibiotics were sound.
 

clav

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Some peeks at tonight's episode:

Why the Myers-Briggs Test is Total B.S
Why Dating Sites Aren’t Scientific At All

At least the points about screenings and antibiotics were sound.

The Little Known Truth About Mammograms

It argues that Hospital costs are due to an agreement with insurance companies to inflate prices.

For reference, full segment was posted here for non-subscribers.

Don't like to use a non-Adam video in this thread, but I think it articulates the argument with nuances I think you wanted to see.

VOX reported on healthcare with a similar argument. History part starts at 2:10.
 
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