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[Zapages]

This was just uploaded from his friend's phone (Slim's phone): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duN0mMQ20tc

They are also pointing out the media is using his past against him. :|

-The Captain did not care and just wanted them out. :|

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

This dumbass and his pranks are only making things worse for the treatment of Arabic people in the West. Fuck this guy.

This much is true...

Spoiled, brat Youtuber child, using his culture and language to further tarnish the image of an entire race/religion of people for Youtube hits!

Also, classic "Boy who cried for wolf" tale with a modern, millennial, clueless Youtuber brat twist.

This kid should be put on "No fly" list and try his hand at making less tasteless YT videos for hits.

https://twitter.com/omgadamsaleh/status/811531782982078464

 

[DatAhmedz]

Due to recent developments, this is what I have to say:

كس أم هل سفلة. قاعد يشذب و يستهبل على توبك حساس و بعدين يسوي روحة واحد مسكين يازعم الأوادم و شركة دلتا غلطو عليه بس لأنه واحد عربي؟؟ والله ما يستاهل زق. إنشاء الله يوتوب يبندون عليه و دلتا يمنعونة من كل فلايتاتهم. اوادم في الخليج كانو امصدقين هل سفلة و احين بلعنون أمه اذا شافو في ديرتهم.

Excuse my foul language and broken af Arabic. I have no sympathy for this racist lying moron. I really hope YouTube fucks him over. Hard.

 

[Zapages]

Due to recent developments, this is what I have to say:

كس أم هل سفلة. قاعد يشذب و يستهبل على توبك حساس و بعدين يسوي روحة واحد مسكين يازعم الأوادم و شركة دلتا غلطو عليه بس لأنه واحد عربي؟؟ والله ما يستاهل زق. إنشاء الله يوتوب يبندون عليه و دلتا يمنعونة من كل فلايتاتهم. اوادم في الخليج كانو امصدقين هل سفلة و احين بلعنون أمه اذا شافو في ديرتهم.

Excuse my foul language and broken af Arabic. I have no sympathy for this racist lying moron. I really hope YouTube fucks him over. Hard.

English translation... Thanks...

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

This was just uploaded from his friend's phone (Slim's phone): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duN0mMQ20tc

They are also pointing out the media is using his past against him. :|

-The Captain did not care and just wanted them out. :|

Oh those evil Mediaz, using his own "Past" against him... as opposed to what? someone else's past?

We've all made mistakes in the past right? We've all made a living making two dozen "Arab Pranks on a Plane" Youtube videos in the past, why not let bygones be bygones and not judge our current shitty behaviour because of the video we made a month ago.

 

[Messofanego]

This was just uploaded from his friend's phone (Slim's phone): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duN0mMQ20tc

They are also pointing out the media is using his past against him. :|

-The Captain did not care and just wanted them out. :|

The captain just wanted to kick off these dudes, for no legit reason.

Oh those evil Mediaz, using his own "Past" against him... as opposed to what? someone else's past?

We've all made mistakes in the past right? We've all made a living making two dozen "Arab Pranks on a Plane" Youtube videos in the past, why not let bygones be bygones and not judge our current shitty behaviour because of the video we made a month ago.

It was Slim speaking in Arabic, yet the media (and you) are using Adam Saleh's past against him even though he wasn't even the instigator. He was just standing up for Slim. They weren't even doing a prank, so how about you judge this situation as is?

 

[Ozigizo]

It was Slim speaking in Arabic, yet the media (and you) are using Adam Saleh's past against him even though he wasn't even the instigator. He was just standing up for Slim. They weren't even doing a prank, so how about you judge this situation as is?

????

So, I can either choose to believe a pranker with a history of doing this, or Delta.

Boy, I wonder who I'll pick.

 

[NandoGip]

Hey guys I'm behind, what should I update OP with

 

[Beefy]

The captain just wanted to kick off these dudes, for no legit reason.

It was Slim speaking in Arabic, yet the media (and you) are using Adam Saleh's past against him even though he wasn't even the instigator. He was just standing up for Slim. They weren't even doing a prank, so how about you judge this situation as is?

You have no clue why he wanted to kick them off, no where in the vid does the captain say "you are being kicked off for speaking Arabic or for nothing" . To me the captain was trying to calm things down.

 

[Zapages]

Hey guys I'm behind, what should I update OP with

I would say Delta's updated response and then the videos by Adam Saleh and his Friend Slim.

 

[Trojita]

The captain just wanted to kick off these dudes, for no legit reason.

It was Slim speaking in Arabic, yet the media (and you) are using Adam Saleh's past against him even though he wasn't even the instigator. He was just standing up for Slim. They weren't even doing a prank, so how about you judge this situation as is?

Adam confirms that he started speaking to Slim first lol. After all this hoopla they are trying to deflect it to now Slim was the one being directed at. We have no proof either way since the video they are using for evidence is post whatever that initial altercation was about.

 

[Zapages]

some interesting excerpts from the NY Times article about this after interviewing people who were on board the plane... It paints a different picture than what Delta is saying.

It makes you wonder about how unbiased or thorough their investigation was....

Chris Ashford, 47, who was aboard the plane after a layover in London, said he believed that the woman had “overreacted.”

“She heard somebody speaking in Arabic and assumed the worst,” he said.

He added that while he thought Delta had acted in the interest of some of its passengers, “I do think it was heavy-handed, kicking the guy off the plane and then removing his bags.”

The Rev. Karen Georgia Thompson, 51, was also on the plane. Although she said she could not judge the airline’s actions because she had only witnessed some of the disruption, Ms. Thompson did say that both parties should have been removed.

“If you’re going to investigate, how are you going to investigate one side of an altercation?” she asked.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/world/delta-air-lines-adam-saleh.html?_r=0

 

[necrosis]

A Delta statement is not a public police report. They have stated they investigated and what they found.

You're at the cross roads of believing Delta are the apparent pranksters who have lied about investigating with eye witnesses and cabin staff or it is this guy, with the history, who has.

A whole cabin crew and 20ish people racists, conspiring pranksters lead by a company, Delta, or an individual with a history of stunts like this? Not to mention the guy now deleting certain tweets and videos... Plus releasing apparent statements before he even talks to his lawyer? Hello Tmartn.

again, they released a statement saying that there was a "disruption" with no real indication of what that "disruption" was

the video uploaded by slim, at the very least, casts doubt on the notion that it was anything other than two people speaking a non-english language. if that's the case, then this is fucked up, regardless of this guy's background

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

The captain just wanted to kick off these dudes, for no legit reason.

It was Slim speaking in Arabic, yet the media (and you) are using Adam Saleh's past against him even though he wasn't even the instigator. He was just standing up for Slim. They weren't even doing a prank, so how about you judge this situation as is?

How do you still believe them man? The footage from slims phone shows nothing that proves their side of the story. I really wish planes had cameras so everyone can see the true story.

I have a strong feeling this is exactly how it went down; all speculation mind you;

Adam egged Slim on to shout something in Arabic. Something loud enough to cause a scene. Probably kept doing it. Pissed off other travelers. Got into a verbal argument with them. Verbal fighting continued. Erupted into more people getting involved and seeing how Adam and Slim are instigating. They pull the race card immediately and latch onto the speaking in Arabic thing because it's their only defense for acting like children.

Again, all guessing, speculating, but I really think that's how it went down.

 

[necrosis]

How do you still believe them man? I really wish planes has cameras so everyone can see the true story.

did you watch the video? skip to around 2m50s. there's not even an attempt to refute the accusation that they were kicked off the plane for speaking arabic

just "you brought attention upon yourself"

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

did you watch the video? skip to around 2m50s. there's not even an attempt to refute the accusation that they were kicked off the plane for speaking arabic

just "you brought attention upon yourself"

Saying "you brought attention upon yourself "could mean anything in this context. Yelling. Getting into a verbal conflict. We just don't have enough information to know the full story here.

 

[spiderman123]

I'm not familiar with this guy but his past is against him. However, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and await what an investigation will reveal.

 

[chaobreaker]

So now it's starting to looks like this wasn't a stunt by Saleh after all?

Why the fuck did everyone turn on this guy so quickly? Because he makes prank videos? How about the thousands of recorded incidents of Muslims and brown people being discriminated on flights for being themselves? How does one set precedent but the other doesn't?

 

[orthodoxy1095]

did you watch the video? skip to around 2m50s. there's not even an attempt to refute the accusation that they were kicked off the plane for speaking arabic

just "you brought attention upon yourself"

That means nothing without knowing what the attention he was "bringing upon himself" was. If it was simply speaking Arabic, fine. It it was more than that, making a commotion/disturbance, than no that's not fine.

His video so far does absolutely nothing to refute the narrative that Delta alleged.

So now it's starting to looks like this wasn't a stunt by Saleh after all?

How is it starting to look like that?

 

[Trojita]

How do you still believe them man? The footage from slims phone shows nothing that proves their side of the story. I really wish planes had cameras so everyone can see the true story.

I have a strong feeling this is exactly how it went down; all speculation mind you;

Adam egged Slim on to shout something in Arabic. Something loud enough to cause a scene. Probably kept doing it. Pissed off other travelers. Got into a verbal argument with them. Verbal fighting continued. Erupted into more people getting involved and seeing how Adam and Slim are instigating. They pull the race card immediately and latch onto the speaking in Arabic thing because it's their only defense for acting like children.

Again, all guessing, speculating, but I really think that's how it went down.

They might have a point that if they were doing this for a prank or youtube they would have likely had their professional camera out. But then again we don't know if he actually did. Everything we have on video evidence is when they are being escorted off. Could they have been recording video before this and then when everything went south didn't want to release it upon landing?

It's not like I fully trust Delta's investigation and statement to be 100% trustworthy, but I also don't trust someone's account of what happened when they have been caught making up fake shit to stir up things in the past.

At the end of the day he is still a douchebag. I see he finally deleted that tweet where he was caping for the Boston Bomber.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

The video of him is him being escorted off the plane, which is nice but that doesn't tell us what happened before that. Which you know, is the whole damn contention right now.

I hope someone else in the plane managed to shoot a video of what went down.

 

[Gnome]

So now it's starting to looks like this wasn't a stunt by Saleh after all?

Why the fuck did everyone turn on this guy so quickly? Because he makes prank videos? How about the thousands of recorded incidents of Muslims and brown people being discriminated on flights for being themselves? How does one set precedent but the other doesn't?

They both set precedents, which is why this thread is at an impasse until there's more information. Anyone straight taking sides is doing so off baseless speculation.

 

[ReplacementPelican]

@PhillyD
Uhoh. They've started going through @omgAdamSaleh's twitter history. Kind of looks like he sympathized with the Boston Bomber...yeesh.

Guy is going to get detroyed.

It's a bit far to say 'sympathised'. I do remember the whole 'free Jahar' thing and it sure as shit wasn't about him being sympathised with but instead that he'd been set-up. I think what it sprang from is that the dude wasn't hideous as fuck and younger people on the internet couldn't understand why someone who was (sort of) handsome could be a terrorist. I wasn't sure what the most distressing part of the movement was, that people once again jumped onto a silly conspiracy theory or that the whole foundation of it was 'only ugly people are bad'.

 

[Peterpan]

This much is true...

Spoiled, brat Youtuber child, using his culture and language to further tarnish the image of an entire race/religion of people for Youtube hits!

Also, classic "Boy who cried for wolf" tale with a modern, millennial, clueless Youtuber brat twist.

This kid should be put on "No fly" list and try his hand at making less tasteless YT videos for hits.

Why does one person have to represent a whole race. One thing I hate about this mind set. White people can do what the fuck they want, but do not represent all white people, yet people of colour have to show their maturity so other folks do not think of the whole race as biligerent idiots. Get out here with that rhetoric he does not represent a whole race and never will. Even if he behaves the way you want him to behave, the racists won't all of a sudden think 'ohhh my gosh, they are not so bad'.

 

[comedian]

Why does one person have to represent a whole race. One thing I hate about this mind set. White people can do what the fuck they want, but do not represent all white people, yet people of colour have to show their maturity so other folks do not think of the whole race as biligerent idiots. Get out here with that rhetoric he does not represent a whole race and never will. Even if he behaves the way you want him to behave, the racists won't all of a sudden think 'ohhh my gosh, they are not so bad'.

What are you talking about ? Hell this was only yesterday: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326800

 

[Yukinari]

I feel like Ethan from H3H3 has made fun of this guys prank videos in the past. Hard to trust someone who thrives on this prank shit. I need more details first.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

So he has never shown what "he did" and this video doesn't show it either.

Sorry, but it seems likely he instigated it or what?

 

[Alpha_eX]

How difficult would it be for either of them just to post a screen cap of the call log with the time they called or received the call that caused all of this? Would shut a lot of people up and serve as absolute evidence.

 

[CyclopsRock]

How difficult would it be for either of them just to post a screen cap of the call log with the time they called or received the call that caused all of this? Would shut a lot of people up and serve as absolute evidence.

It would demonstrate he made a phone call.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

He was probably pretending to be on the phone and that is what made him look a bit strange

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

The captain just wanted to kick off these dudes, for no legit reason.

It was Slim speaking in Arabic, yet the media (and you) are using Adam Saleh's past against him even though he wasn't even the instigator. He was just standing up for Slim. They weren't even doing a prank, so how about you judge this situation as is?

Hahahaha! Are you seriously implying that I should do my due delegince and go watch all these little cunts YouTube videos about pranks on a plane and make a distinction about who's who and who does most of the pranks and who is the camera man, who is a participant, before making judgment on what is likely the cause of these two shit heads to get kicked off the plane?

I don't care if it was slim, fatty or shady, that caused this, due to their track record, it clearly seems that they were YET AGAIN!!! pulling a stupid stunt that failed miserably, and now they have the audacity to twist the story and make it about an entire airline company and plane full of rabid racist, white passengers turing against them and ruining thier, harmless, innocent travel plans.

Get real dude! Seriously.

Ok hot shot! Let's try this for some due deligence about your "Slim" boy here.


You seem to know about these kids more than I do so... something about Slim not being part of these Plane pranks before...Could you please point to one of these YT video thumbnails where you can identify the Slim character here, possibly a thumbnail that includes him, and the words "Plane, Arabs, Prank" on it ... if you can then... Well I donno what else to tell you friend.

 

[Sapientas]

Hahahaha! Are you seriously implying that I should do my due delegince and go watch all these little cunts YouTube videos about pranks on a plane and make a distinction about who's who and who does most of the pranks and who is the camera man, who is a participant, before making judgment on what is likely the cause of these two shit heads to get kicked off the plane?

I don't care if it was slim, fatty or shady, that caused this, due to their track record, it clearly seems that they were YET AGAIN!!! pulling a stupid stunt that failed miserably, and now they have the audacity to twist the story and make it about an entire airline company and plane full of rabid racist, white passengers turing against them and ruining thier, harmless, innocent travel plans.

Get real dude! Seriously.

Feels like your disdain for Youtubers is making you overreact and completely ignore the other side of the story. There is precedent for airlines to discriminate and do exactly what this situation is about.

Take a step back and realize you're responding prematurely and aggressively.

 

[Symphonia]

Why would he be immune from racism because he's in YouTube?

Being removed is bullshit.

But so is YouTube "fame". Get a real job

Being removed is bullshit, but so is your opinion on YouTube not being a job. For me, YouTube is my job, or at least a big part of it. I find it baffling when, in 2016, people still say YouTube is not a viable source of income. Actually, when you think about it, it's not baffling. It's jealousy. People didn't make their mark on YouTube, so put down others who did. Disgusting.

 

[Naked Snake]

It would demonstrate he made a phone call.

And screen caps can easily be faked.

 

[Alpha_eX]

Youtube is a source of income, and takes a lot of work for a few minutes of video. Just because you may have a boring desk job, don't get salty over people earning their way different to you.

People have more typical jobs doing far worse things than Youtubers you may or may not like. Get over it.

The only thing to take from Youtube here is the history of videos these two have been involved with, which have been mysteriously taken down since this event.

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

Feels like your disdain for Youtubers is making you overreact and completely ignore the other side of the story. There is precedent for airlines to discriminate and do exactly what this situation is about.

Take a step back and realize you're responding prematurely and aggressively.

Seems like your lack of understanding of airline security, and what it takes for someone to be asked to get off a plane for being a security risk is making you look at this story from a very narrow minded, juvenile point of view.

For the record I have my YouTube heroes that I watch and admire on the regular. The YTubers I watch don't fuck with people's safety, delay flights and cause headache for the public to get views.

Correct, I do have disdain for people such as I described above, not because they have a popular YT channel, it's because they are shit heads.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Youtube is a source of income, and takes a lot of work for a few minutes of video. Just because you may have a boring desk job, don't get salty over people earning their way different to you.

People have more typical jobs doing far worse things than Youtubers you may or may not like. Get over it.

The only thing to take from Youtube here is the history of videos these two have been involved with, which have been mysteriously taken down since this event.

mysterious lol.

just like the tweets. I for one am shocked that he's taking these things down.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

Youtube is a source of income, and takes a lot of work for a few minutes of video. Just because you may have a boring desk job, don't get salty over people earning their way different to you.

People have more typical jobs doing far worse things than Youtubers you may or may not like. Get over it.

The only thing to take from Youtube here is the history of videos these two have been involved with, which have been mysteriously taken down since this event.

I think people are more at thought that his antics are causing trouble for people of race, at least more than helping as far as where a lot of people are in this thread.

Of course only he and the people on the plane apparently know hat he is/was dongng anyways so everything said is of course guess work and assumptions.

Of course if he was prayed upon for just talking another language then he is right and should be a bit upset. Even though I have a feeling he was playing most of it up for his viewers.

I would like to think he was recording more and I am sure all of it will come to light in a few days.

If he was pulling a stunt to try to scare people a bit to make a reaction then I do hope he loses the ability to be on youtube for disturbing people on a plane.

There are a lot of people out there that have severe anxiety issues on planes and I am one of them. I do not want to deal with this ordeal in any fashion or form. I want to get off the plane as fast as I can and even if he wasn't doing anything just seeing a people being escorted off is enough to start messing with some peoples minds. Last plane I was on was a real roller coaster.

A woman started having a seizure and seeing her seat shake was enough to really mess with me and I started feeling terrible. Then we had an emergency landing plus another take off and landing and I wasn't well for many days after all that. Planes are no joke for a lot of us and we aren't really in worry of race or that sort of thing, we are just scared to death.

So, I do not want people to have the right to cause issues on a plane at all if that so happens to be what he was doing then he needs punishment imo (all if's of course)

I did not hear what happened to the woman that had the seizure but I did ask if she was ok when she got off and they said she was doing better at least.

 

[biggersmaller]

Dude is a professional con artist, so even if his version of the story was true - his shot credibility means most reasonable people will not listen to what he has to say.

 

[Johnny Cage In The Shower]

Dude is a professional con artist, so even if his version of the story was true - his shot credibility means most reasonable people will not listen to what he has to say.

Like I mention in my first post in this thread: classic "Boy who cried for wolf"

 

[Audioboxer]

again, they released a statement saying that there was a "disruption" with no real indication of what that "disruption" was

the video uploaded by slim, at the very least, casts doubt on the notion that it was anything other than two people speaking a non-english language. if that's the case, then this is fucked up, regardless of this guy's background

Again, a private company is not going to release details in the way you're asking for just so people on forums can comb through them. Any time there are infractions and it's a press release said infractions get listed, not broken down. Try writing a letter to Delta if you want more information. They'll probably still politely tell you what they stated in their post investigation release.

I'm unsure why people are so desperate to defend someone who uses the term Jew as a joke/insult, says what he did about the Boston bomber, and then has made a living releasing incredibly dubious videos. If anyone behaved like that on GAF they'd probably have been banned by now if not told to stop being bigoted and/or exploiting for money/fame.

 

[atomsk]

regardless of the facts, it certainly spiked his youtube & twitter numbers

 

[DragonSworne]

????

So, I can either choose to believe a pranker with a history of doing this, or Delta.

Boy, I wonder who I'll pick.

Nice victim blaming.

 

[danowat]

I'm saying people have a right to speak out if they don't feel safe. Would suck to regret being PC halfway through the flight. If I didn't feel comfortable with someone's behavior on a flight I would speak out regardless of who gets offended. My life is worth more than someone's feelings.

I've been on flights where the majority of announcements were made in Arabic, should I have felt uncomfortable?, considering it's the language of terrorism?

FFS, I can't believe people think like this........

 

[Kinyou]

did you watch the video? skip to around 2m50s. there's not even an attempt to refute the accusation that they were kicked off the plane for speaking arabic

just "you brought attention upon yourself"

When you're kicking someone out you're kicking them out. You're not about to have a discussion. This whole "they didn't deny it in the video!" is really hardly a smoking gun. I mean, if they said "we're not kicking you out for speaking arabic" would people suddenly concede?

 

[Timedog]

Wait what is the evidence that he lied? The Delta statement, or is there more than that?

 

[DragonSworne]

Wait what is the evidence that he lied? The Delta statement, or is there more than that?

Victim blaming. Basically the same logic as "she was asking for it for wearing that skirt" is being applied.

 

[SlickShoes]

14 pages and no evidence on either side yet, truly enthralling stuff.

 

[Audioboxer]

Wait what is the evidence that he lied? The Delta statement, or is there more than that?

Delta statement, eye witness testimony, his videos all being small cut outs, his flimsy reasoning, him cleaning up shop and deleting things because of the media spotlight and finally his past with pranks/purposefully trying to wind people up for reactions. All very damning evidence.

There comes a point where it is not victim blaming but being objective about the facts correlated and presented.

Victim blaming. Basically the same logic as "she was asking for it for wearing that skirt" is being applied.

Uh huh. Of course. That is what most of us are doing. Using incredibly sexist and passive aggressive reasoning.

 

[Kinyou]

Victim blaming. Basically the same logic as "she was asking for it for wearing that skirt" is being applied.

The hell? People have fair reason to assume that it was likely that he was just trying to start shit based on his history and Delta's statement, but i guess anything but mindlessly siding with the alleged victim is victim blaming now.