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AFL (Aussie Rules) 2015 |OT| Women's Round presented by Stephen Milne & Majak Daw
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Essendon player tribunal results.
Marky Mark
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Blend it in a mixer and inject straight in to your veins!
Hoping for some lengthy bans but fear it'll only be a few weeks. They need the whole season off.
Interesting that the media campaign has stated to ramp up again and with a clear narrative - Dank bad, players good
The cynic in me says it's conditioning the public to accept that the players won't be banned but it'll all be pinned on Dank. Hird getting of scott free grinds my gears
Interesting that the media campaign has stated to ramp up again and with a clear narrative - Dank bad, players good
The cynic in me says it's conditioning the public to accept that the players won't be banned but it'll all be pinned on Dank. Hird getting of scott free grinds my gears
Jables Swan
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That's my feeling too.
On one hand they (Essendon) have intentionally dragged the whole mess on for as long as possible.
On the other hand leaving the players hanging for so long goes against a whole bunch of legal principles.
Jables Swan
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What a great start to the season. 
At least we can be confident that the AFL will act quickly and swiftly with dealing with the rising PED problem in the league. They've certainly shown a desire and willingness to deal with these issues with utmost integrity and not at all attempt to sweep things under the carpet.
So that's players at st kilda, fremantle and now collingwood who have tested positive to PEDs.
Boy oh boy wowee what irony.
Edit also wife beaters at north melb and carlton, drug dealers at gold coast, meth users celebrated as state heroes in west coast, and rapists in st kilda and essendon. Oh and assault with machetes by Melbourne player.
Define disrepute for me please. I'm confused as to what it means.
Boy oh boy wowee what irony.
Edit also wife beaters at north melb and carlton, drug dealers at gold coast, meth users celebrated as state heroes in west coast, and rapists in st kilda and essendon. Oh and assault with machetes by Melbourne player.
Define disrepute for me please. I'm confused as to what it means.
Which clubs will have players sanctioned for betting on the outcome?
Collingwood players, and they'll bet against their own team mates =P
Which essendon player was a rapeist?
No no, it was more I didn't remember it! But googling, it was Lovett after he moved to st kilda, that's why I didn't remember.
Or if you're a crows supporter, it was lovett-murray
At least we can be assured every club has perfect governance and thus know richmond and west coast closely supervised ben cousins meth addiction whilst gold coast ensured no hiccups while their cocaine shipments were on the road.
Good to know collingwood and fremantle are perfect too
Also club legend of west coast tried to burn his ex wife's house down a few weeks ago.
Top blokes all round in this league
Good to know collingwood and fremantle are perfect too
Also club legend of west coast tried to burn his ex wife's house down a few weeks ago.
Top blokes all round in this league
Chaosmidas
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Too much non-football football talk in here! Especially the OT tag referencing two near irrelevant players (one retired, one outside the 22).
What are your thoughts on who will be playing finals this year? If we take Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Sydney, Geelong, Fremantle and North Melbourne as given (though discuss if you disagree...) that leaves two spots.
As a Power fan I hate to say it but I think this year Crows will make the finals. Their list has been top 8 for years now (the infamous 'one kick from the GF in 2012') and with the new coach maybe the culture of mediocrity will dissipate...
As for the last spot, it's up for grabs. My favourite would be Gold Coast or Richmond, with Brisbane as a smokey. Gold Coast is probably still going to be heavily Garry-dependent again but if he can stay fit most of the season they might have it. I don't rate Richmond that highly but they snuck in last year so they can probably do it again, even after having such a poor start to the season. Brisbane have an elite midfield but not much in the way of key position players... Maybe Rocky and Beams can win it on their own though.
What are your thoughts on who will be playing finals this year? If we take Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Sydney, Geelong, Fremantle and North Melbourne as given (though discuss if you disagree...) that leaves two spots.
As a Power fan I hate to say it but I think this year Crows will make the finals. Their list has been top 8 for years now (the infamous 'one kick from the GF in 2012') and with the new coach maybe the culture of mediocrity will dissipate...
As for the last spot, it's up for grabs. My favourite would be Gold Coast or Richmond, with Brisbane as a smokey. Gold Coast is probably still going to be heavily Garry-dependent again but if he can stay fit most of the season they might have it. I don't rate Richmond that highly but they snuck in last year so they can probably do it again, even after having such a poor start to the season. Brisbane have an elite midfield but not much in the way of key position players... Maybe Rocky and Beams can win it on their own though.
Edsmells12345
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Dusty Dusty!!!
Jables Swan
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Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Sydney, Geelong and North Melbourne are givens for me. Freo should be there but you never know. The last two could been handed out to a bunch of teams, Eagles, Crows, Tigers, Pies, Lions and Gold Coast the likely ones. Though none of these will challenge the other teams.
I'll predict the top 4 to be Hawks, Swans, Port and North. Hawks more than likely to win again.
I'll predict the top 4 to be Hawks, Swans, Port and North. Hawks more than likely to win again.
I'm not sold on North at all. They finished 6th last year.
In the finals Essendon had them on toast in their first game and luckily won that after Essendon stopped 10 minutes too early and in their second game they played Geelong who were done for the season a few rounds before finals started. Geelong just didn't care about that game.
They got smacked against a finals quality team in Sydney in their only proper final.
Yes. Discussion of PED usage within the AFL is "non football".
Utterly unsurprising comment.
Chaosmidas
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Fair enough, it is worthy of discussion. But we're a few days out from the start of the season, isn't your excitement growing? With mates, the conversation is more "will swanny turn back the clock this year???", "we wuv wobbie gway!!!" and "what stupid fucking thing will 'Roo' say next" (the last one probably isn't relevant in Melbourne) - though obviously everyone wants to see what happens tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to the first home game, Adelaide Oval has a great atmosphere.
You might be right, and I thought the same thing last year. When you think about it they don't really have any freak players that stand above the rest. Life is easier with a Selwood, Fyfe or Boak type that can make a huge play that lifts the team over the line. Still, they made it to the prelim (though as you say only through shitty bombers and tired cats).
I couldn't be less excited about the AFL season. The only reason I 'follow' it is to participate with friends in fantasy football. So all I care about is tracking scoring rates etc.
The current drug incidents are deliciously ironic as the AFL has always projected itself as 'clean' for as long as I can remember. Yet they have had numerous positives tests in the last few years, never mind the whole Esssendon situation which stinks to high heaven.
Speaking of, shall we get some predictions going?
I suspect it will be guilty, Watson will lose his Brownlow, but the players will be 'ok' to start round 1.
The current drug incidents are deliciously ironic as the AFL has always projected itself as 'clean' for as long as I can remember. Yet they have had numerous positives tests in the last few years, never mind the whole Esssendon situation which stinks to high heaven.
Speaking of, shall we get some predictions going?
I suspect it will be guilty, Watson will lose his Brownlow, but the players will be 'ok' to start round 1.
Poor governance by the afl.
Something something Lance Armstrong something.
chicko1983
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The tests for detecting prohibited substances are not 100% accurate, and sometimes, prohibited substances cannot be detected.
Thymosin beta-4 may also be hard to detect.
I believe they were caught based on evidence surrounding Dank, not actual blood tests. Someone can correct me if I am wrong though, I cant remember exactly how it went down two years ago.
I hope the players and club gets severely punished.
chicko1983
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from wiki, it sounds like it was Dank himself that threw the confetti, haha, what an idiot.
BanShunsaku
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Not guilty
Wowee
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Going to be interesting to hear why.
"The tribunal determined that there was insufficient evidence to uphold the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority's belief that the 34 past and present Bombers were injected with the banned drug Thymosin beta-4 during 2012."
BanShunsaku
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Surely ASADA and WADA will appeal?
I would expect so yeah.
I'm gonna need a break down of why there wasn't enough evidence. That AFL charge sheet from back in 2013 was incredibly damning, and the investigation continued for months after that. The behaviour of Essendon, Hird and Dank for the last two years has basically been evidence enough they were guilty as anything.
I've got very little doubt TB4 was used, but it will be interesting to see the decision. Was it a case of "We don't believe TB4 was used" (which would be ridiculous), or a case of "We believe it was used but we can't exactly say on which players" (which makes more sense but has to bring about further club sanctions).
I've got very little doubt TB4 was used, but it will be interesting to see the decision. Was it a case of "We don't believe TB4 was used" (which would be ridiculous), or a case of "We believe it was used but we can't exactly say on which players" (which makes more sense but has to bring about further club sanctions).
That charge sheet was never officially published. Soo yoou can't use that. Thatw as a blooody media leak and not official.
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