Jacobson
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damn he got banned? for what?? (besides telling the truth)
After using the Switch 2 for a week I'm glad I have a Steam Deck
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RetroGamingUK
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How many exclusives did Xbox Series launch with?
Astray
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For being the spirit of gaming.
vaibhavpisal
Member
I mean, it doesn't have to be exclusive.
Any new game launching in 2020 holidays with a strong Series X / PS5 version would count as legit launch title you can get for the system.
I did got system at launch and there was a ton of new / shiny stuff. There isn't much new stuff for Switch 2.
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hououinkyouma00
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The problem now is that this isn't a guarantee at least price wise.
Switch never dropped price (you could say it actually went up $50 because why the fuck would you buy a regular over OLED?). PlayStation 5 either stayed the same price after 5 years or went up depending on region and Xbox Series went up in year 5.
Part of the reason I got a SW2 at launch was I don't trust the price to not go up. Unfortunately we're past the times where consoles dropped to half or even a third of the price by end of life.
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RetroGamingUK
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Because I have to spell it out for you.
Xbox Series launched with 0 exclusives, so it's odd when you call out Switch 2 for only having 1 exclusive.
By the way Switch 2 launched with another 24 games.
Your initial post makes zero sense and smacks of hypocrisy.
Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Astray
Member
Shhhhhh exclusives either greatly matter or don't matter at all depending on whether Xbox is doing them or not.
Ass of Can Whooping
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I can't think of a console with a worse launch lineup than Series X/S frankly.
Like with switch 1 and steamdeck, both did moved to oled screen with their revision. Which btw can also be the case with switch 2.
On the other side, there is no freaking way i'm choosing this oled 800p lowres screen over a 120hz 1080p vrr + hdr + bigger inch screen as my current steam deck one. No Freaking Way
At this point, the steamdeck is collecting dust that is hovering in the air
The biggest issue of my steamdeck purchase is how quickly outdated the hw became
On the other side, there is no freaking way i'm choosing this oled 800p lowres screen over a 120hz 1080p vrr + hdr + bigger inch screen as my current steam deck one. No Freaking Way
At this point, the steamdeck is collecting dust that is hovering in the air
The biggest issue of my steamdeck purchase is how quickly outdated the hw became
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StueyDuck
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You are right, but like you say it's region dependant for sure.
Like here in SA the S2 really isn't flying off of shelves. Sure people are buying but i can go into many shops which sell consoles and find one easily to purchase (i've already looked because i almost gave in and bought).
Eventually those stores need to move their stock, and I can see it dropping in like Black Friday sales here or something.
but as a global RRP you are right that they barely drop in price and remain consistent through out most of the gen life cycle.
vaibhavpisal
Member
You could be ok with this launch. But it could have been much better if say Clair Obscure and Split Fiction versions Switch 2 versions launched with it. I mean, anyone who picked Switch 2 at launch, what exactly are they playing on it?
I was ok with Xbox / PS5 launch mostly cause 3rd party support was in full.
REDRZA MWS
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No shit. What did you expect when you bought a brand new console that's equivalent to hardware released in 2013 (PS4).? Why by the way, is Nintendo's MO after the GameCube. Starting with the Wii they've been 3 generations behind. And you want to compare it to Steam deck? There is zero comparison. Hardware wise.After playing Switch 2 for a week it made me realize how great the Steam Deck is.
On the hardware side, the OLED screen Steam Deck pummels the Switch 2. I remember hearing in previews that the Switch 2 screen was great but I strongly disagree with that due to noticeable ghosting and washed out picture. I like the concept of Joy Cons (the way they attach magnetically is awesome), but they are still uncomfortable to use and the lack of dpad makes some games unplayable IMO. I refuse to use the analog stick for 2D games like a filthy casual. The Steam Deck is just so much more comfortable to hold.
On the software side its usual woes of console gaming. Yes, the Switch has an amazing catalog of games. Unfortunately many of them are handicapped with crappy settings that require a developer to update. That means we're left to beg online and wonder if/when a patch will come for these games. All so they don't look like ass.
Take Dave the Diver for example, great game... locked at 30fps until the dev updates it. People are left to beg for a patch. Now do that with the majority of your Switch library. Disgusting.
I dunno man. I won't call it buyers remorse but I'm feeling a little unenthused. Anyone with me?
Try and enjoy Nintendos first party as MJ h as possible. That's all old, tired, weak hardware is good for.
BlackTron
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Well it's one way to sell accessories
Zathalus
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Really? Because in most metrics the OLED screen is superior. Higher brightness, superior colour gamut, and significantly better motion clarity. The Switch 2 has a slightly larger screen, higher resolution, and VRR. The OLED still looks superior in most use cases. This is just a comment on the screen quality, not the devices themselves.
BlackTron
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I'm playing the same thing I'm pretty sure almost everyone else is playing. Mario Kart, Zelda upgrade pack, and trying out a variety of Switch 1 games while waiting desperately for something else to come out like it's the middle of 1997, even though really the system just came out a few weeks ago. It does have Split Fiction BTW
Because in most metrics the OLED screen is superior
The blacklevels sure. but that not the only attribute that matters
Higher brightness, superior colour gamut,
I compared, but not only me it was also a reddit post as well on how what screen was giving the best colors using the same game. The switch 2 colors were better in this case.
But maybe i did compared the wrong game here?
The Switch 2 has a slightly larger screen, higher resolution, and VRR.
Which is why in this case, the switch 2 screen wins. Don't forget higher refresh rate : 120hz
The OLED still looks superior in most use cases
It's better to have a oled screen as led. But not by delivery all the downsides that steamdeck has. No way
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Minsc
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Even if you add in a PS5, PC still has more exclusives on it than Switch 2, even with Switch 1's backwards compatibility. So it's still not wrong you'd have far more games to pick form with a Deck than Switch 2 + PS5.
hououinkyouma00
Member
That wasn't the point though. You don't get Nintendo games on Steam Deck.
Danjin44
wants to play Nintendo titles.
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Minsc
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That wasn't the point though. You don't get Nintendo games on Steam Deck.
Too bad it's not about him, because he responded to ME. So the ball's in my court not his. If anything it's the discussion who I responded to, which is Ogbert who asked the OP how he likes to play MKW on the Deck. To which I said maybe he prefers to play games not on the Switch 2 on the Deck, like Stellar Blade.
Gambit2483
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I'm actually also playing Street Fighter 6, No Man's Sky (basically a remaster on Switch 2) and Hogwarts Legacy.
There's tons of other games to get/play that aren't just Switch 1 games. If anything there's just too much to play at this point.
Baemono
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It's been 11 days the console launched. How long did we have to wait for having next-gen patches for PS5/Xbox ?
Toots
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Mostly the way he was telling said truth
CloudShiner
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That nasty LCD would be reason enough alone for me not to buy one. Even if I were a Nintendrone, I'd wait for the OLED.
Depends on game obviously, but not only did you have more 60FPS on launch but also more announced upgrades, with Switch 2 seems like there is no communication about it at the moment.
11 days is not an excuse to at least announce some of them.
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Baemono
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You mean minus the ones already confirmed getting an update or already updated ?
OverHeat
« generous god »
Yes more than the current 16 out a library of thousands, Xbox Series had 31 at launch with another 12 announced on a platform which debatably needed upgrades on a much lesser scale that Switch 1 games.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Deck may suck in performance and resolution, but in graphics it doesn't suck.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Performance is part of equation IMO so yeah it sucks but it's convenient to play on the go
Kacho
Member
I don't take dismissive questions like that seriously. Obviously I'll fire up the Switch to play MKW if I get the urge, but that won't fix the lackluster screen, bad ergonomics, limited BC upgrades, etc.
Some people think I'm hating on Switch here. I'm just giving my honest opinion.
Pretty much. Steam has a ton of indies that aren't on consoles. I can play classics like Sleeping Dogs or something newer like Stellar Blade. There's endless options. Steam Deck isn't perfect, but the positives far outweigh the negatives IMO.
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BlackTron
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I mean it's not lost on me that Cyberpunk is a best selling game on NS2. It just feels almost invisible because it's an old game. At least, with other Switch 1 games that got updates like Mario and Zelda, those are now the best way to play the game, whereas Cyberpunk is at best not-much-worse than the same PC version that was already there. This applies to virtually all the 3p games.
Not to diminish having the game on a thin portable like NS2, but having a game running in a good state and/or existing at all in first place is just an orders of magnitude bigger deal than games that are available elsewhere many times over IMO
lughnasadh123
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While both devices are really good for their respective audience serving their own unique purpose, Nintendo fans telling anyone to simmer down is like lava calling the sun out for being too hot.
Danjin44
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Well that's obvious since Switch 2 just came out, but Switch 2 has Nintendo games that I don't want to miss out.
Steam Deck mostly gets multiplatform games which I will play it on my PS5 instead of Steam Deck.
Sure they might be some games out there that's exclusive to PC that you can play it on Steam Deck but I don't mind not playing those games…..for me personally Nintendo games far more important.
graywolf323
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the upside is when the Steam Deck 2 eventually launches, you won't have to wait for patches for most games to be playable at 60fps or higher
Gameplay Gods Bless
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Yes because consoles and PCs are not new concepts.
Dev1lXYZ
Member
The honeymoon period of the Switch 2 is over with. People are now starting to come out and speak frankly about the truth that Nintendo's long rumored Switch Pro was renamed to Switch 2. It's not a new console as much as it is just a hardware refresh. Sure it runs games better than Switch, but at the end of the day, it's no more fun than its predecessor. Mario Kart World may sell it to some, but it was pretty clear to me that there was no innovation there that made it any more fun than the last game. In fact, many consider it a step back. When Nintendo was so guarded with things like how the open world worked, and then the bricking feature was announced, I chose to sit this one out. I already had a Steam Deck, so another Switch just didn't offer any incentive for me to rush out and get one. I already had Cyberpunk on SD and PC, and after seeing how lifeless the traffic patterns were compared to what is on the Deck, it shocked me how people compared the Switch 2 version to it and said it was better. I mean, sure if you don't have access and Switch 2 is the only way to play it portably, it's fine, but for those with options, why? Quite a few gamer YT channels that stated this very same thing jumped on Switch 2 day one I guess for views, maybe the feel of buying a new console. Those videos didn't turn any fantastic numbers anyway and they look like idiots. They lost subscribers and gained nothing for playing two games; one they already owned, and the other a cash grab rehash racing game. It's their money I guess, but I was one of the many subs that hit the road.
Baemono
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I'm surprised you didn't mention the constant updates the Steam Deck itself, the games' launchers and the games themselves requires and all the time and space it can take. And that the battery drains itself pretty fast even when not using it.
Last time I tried to boot a game on my Steam Deck after leaving it for a week, I had several Steam OS updates, then games updates, launchers updates, launchers asking me my password again (despite clicking on the "remember me/don't ask again" stuff, and after 30 minutes I managed to launch a game. And that's the usual woes of PC gaming.
Kacho
Member
Can't say I've ever had a 30 minute wait to play a game on Steam Deck. Have you encountered this
BennyBlanco
? I know you use your Deck regularly.I've never been forced to update the system to play or game, nor has the process taking all that long. No clue what launcher updates you're talking about tbh.
Games update on all platforms these days. Not exclusive to Steam.
Baemono
Member
I tried to launch GTA IV, everytime there are updates of the game and the launcher, and the Rockstar launcher is terrible, especially on the deck.Can't say I've ever had a 30 minute wait to play a game on Steam Deck. Have you encountered this
I've never been forced to update the system to play or game, nor has the process taking all that long. No clue what launcher updates you're talking about tbh.
Games update on all platforms these days. Not exclusive to Steam.
I ended up launching Tomb Raider but tool a while too, at the end I lost like 30% of battery without even playing a single game, I was like « I'm done »
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
You know what's funny?
These same exact words will be true for the Steam Deck 2. Every single one.
And yet you will see people hailing it as the second coming of gaming.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It`s all automatic and if it took 30 minutes for you, your internet is crap. Which launchers keeps asking you your password again and again?? This rarely happens here.