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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S4 |OT| Ghost Riders in the Skye - Tuesdays 10/9c
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Oh yea, remember when the show kept repeatedly telling us over and over how important she was before she got her powers lol
Nah.
Well, you must not have been paying much attention. I mean, Simmons was a bit bland, but Fitz had that weird pining for Skye thing. He was way more awkward.
They were the viewpoint character and had episodes where she was the main focus. How did she not matter?
She was stoic because she had issues. Also what's wrong with stoic? A stoic character is not inherently bad. Her development in the series was based of her coming back out after retreating internally. It was obvious that she had something that made her quit and they moved that plot forward.
What does that even mean?
Tripp was a catchphrase machine and had the least character. He was kind of a nothing character.
Nah.
And that whole TAHITI shit was bad, I was so happy when it got resolved and led to me caring about Skye/Daisy in the process
We were told Skye mattered but not why she mattered. All we had was "She hack gud"
I paid hella attention, point a gun to my head and I could not have told you the difference between Fitz and Simmons
May was beyond stoic really, she was somehow worse than Boy Scout Ward in terms of character
Coulson wasn't shit
Tripp was the god, you are objectively wrong
Season 1 was shit until the episode that matters
Now if they bring Gravitron back...I'm here for it
Yup, characters like that tend to be annoying when there's a disconnect between the show repeatedly telling you how great or special said person is, while meanwhile the audience is like "How sway"
Munch Poke
Member
Wow what an episode I cannot wait until April.
But if they showed Jemmas grave does that mean she'll be waking up in a coffin six feet under ground? That'd be a horrifying way of staring the next episode.
But if they showed Jemmas grave does that mean she'll be waking up in a coffin six feet under ground? That'd be a horrifying way of staring the next episode.
Lone_Prodigy
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My first impression of Skye was generic eye candy. Lived in a van but had perfect hair and makeup. Couple episodes in and she's running around in a dress. Has no abilities beyond hacking.
FitzSimmons were standard nerds with fancy tech and fancy words.
Coulson was their wisecracking leader.
Ward was bland male eye candy with a backstory we're supposed to care about.
May was almost an Asian caricature (super serious fighter).
The guest appearances (Fury, Sif) fell flat.
FitzSimmons were standard nerds with fancy tech and fancy words.
Coulson was their wisecracking leader.
Ward was bland male eye candy with a backstory we're supposed to care about.
May was almost an Asian caricature (super serious fighter).
The guest appearances (Fury, Sif) fell flat.
Freddy=Legend
Member
Well, they can't die in there. If they die in the Framework, they die in real life. So, I assume there can be other consequences.
Revealing some hidden secret thoughts could irrevocably change relationships.
H.Cornerstone
Member
As much as I liked this episode and the LMD arc, I am not sure how i feel about a 6? episode arc of them in a virtual reality trying to discover the location of the other agents.
The possibilities are limitless. Hell, we could probably even see Robbie Reyes in another role. Even see May's inner workings with Hydra and if they can still die in there it adds weight to it all. I'm pretty hooked on this.
They do account for it. Network ratings are pretty poor across the board and they have been forced to look outside of live ratings. Granted, if they're REALLY bad, you're clearly getting canceled. And AoS has bad ratings.
That being said, it also has one of the biggest gains with DVR viewership on network television. ABC's president acknowledged it in a recent interview and spoke positively about the show's future.
Yes, live ratings are bad. But AoS does have other factors in play, some of which that are unique to the show, to keep in mind:
- DVR viewership
- The critical response, which seems to keep getting better
- ABC wanting a steady-enough 10 PM drama, which they have trouble with
- The chance to market a two-hour "Marvel block" in the fall with AoS and Inhumans
In the end, cross your fingers. This could end up being one of those "campaign to the network" type of shows.
Just watched it. INSANE episode. I almost can't believe how good that was. If this season is the last of AoS I hope they stick the landing because it's en route to becoming the perfect swan song.
And LMAO @ Ward. Always thought the show would jump the shark if they had him appear again, but they went and found a reasonable way to do it. Amazing.
And LMAO @ Ward. Always thought the show would jump the shark if they had him appear again, but they went and found a reasonable way to do it. Amazing.
Season 1: Victoria Hand, Garret is the Clairvoyent, Ward is a dick, Fitz gets brain damage, Raina exists, TRIPP, TAHITI, Talbot is a dick, Deathlok kills Garret???
Season 2: Whitehall, Fitz is fucked up, Talbot is still a dick, Kree, Inhuman shit, Tripp dies, Mac is brought in, Hunter & Bobbi, Simmons is a spy, Ward kills his brother and parents, Ward falls in love with Agent 33, Reina and Skye are brought to Afterlife, Absorbing Man, No eyes dude existed, Reina is murked, The Bus is blown up, Mac and Bobbi are part of NotSHIELD, Ward is just a dick, kills Agent 33 by accident...Lincoln..., May killed Inhumans in Bahiran, ANDREW! Simmons hates Inhumans, Coulson loses his arm, Skye's dad is Hyde, Hyde has memory wiped, SIMMONS IS EATEN BY THE MONOLITH!!
Season 3: Fitz is going HAM to find Simmons, Becomes a damn spy for this woman, Daisy can open up portals, they bring Simmons back(All first episode btw), Simmons wants to go back, met and fell in love with "Will", Inhumans everywhere through Fish Oil, Rosalind is a thing, LASH DA GOAT, Lance goes HAM trying to kill Ward, Recruits May because they fucked, remember that? Wernor von Strucker, Malick, more Lincoln..., WARD MURDERS ROASLIND, NotMagneto is a villain, JOEY!, Coulson HALO Jumps through a portal and murders Ward, Hive is byke! Yo-Yo shows up, Bobbi and Hunter leave
, Andrew is Lash forever, Lincoln and Hive/Ward die, Daisy runs off
Season 2: Whitehall, Fitz is fucked up, Talbot is still a dick, Kree, Inhuman shit, Tripp dies, Mac is brought in, Hunter & Bobbi, Simmons is a spy, Ward kills his brother and parents, Ward falls in love with Agent 33, Reina and Skye are brought to Afterlife, Absorbing Man, No eyes dude existed, Reina is murked, The Bus is blown up, Mac and Bobbi are part of NotSHIELD, Ward is just a dick, kills Agent 33 by accident...Lincoln..., May killed Inhumans in Bahiran, ANDREW! Simmons hates Inhumans, Coulson loses his arm, Skye's dad is Hyde, Hyde has memory wiped, SIMMONS IS EATEN BY THE MONOLITH!!
Season 3: Fitz is going HAM to find Simmons, Becomes a damn spy for this woman, Daisy can open up portals, they bring Simmons back(All first episode btw), Simmons wants to go back, met and fell in love with "Will", Inhumans everywhere through Fish Oil, Rosalind is a thing, LASH DA GOAT, Lance goes HAM trying to kill Ward, Recruits May because they fucked, remember that? Wernor von Strucker, Malick, more Lincoln..., WARD MURDERS ROASLIND, NotMagneto is a villain, JOEY!, Coulson HALO Jumps through a portal and murders Ward, Hive is byke! Yo-Yo shows up, Bobbi and Hunter leave
, Andrew is Lash forever, Lincoln and Hive/Ward die, Daisy runs offObliterator
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Holy shit just finished the episode. That was one of the single greatest episodes the show has ever had.
I say it basically every week but the jump in quality this season is INSANE
Edit - Also if I was somehow a crazy rich man I would just finance Season 5 my fucking self
I say it basically every week but the jump in quality this season is INSANE
Edit - Also if I was somehow a crazy rich man I would just finance Season 5 my fucking self
TheDanimal
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You don't even know yet.
Agh that episode was so good
Just finished. Current reaction:
OHHHHH MY GOD. AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm getting major Evangelion episodes 25-26 and End of Evangelion vibes from the Framework with everyone living alternate lives, and the base getting blown up.
And I don't know what it is about a base getting destroyed that feels to me like the closing of a chapter/era.
Nice touch with Daisy having her long hair.
OHHHHH MY GOD. AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm getting major Evangelion episodes 25-26 and End of Evangelion vibes from the Framework with everyone living alternate lives, and the base getting blown up.
And I don't know what it is about a base getting destroyed that feels to me like the closing of a chapter/era.
Nice touch with Daisy having her long hair.
awilliams213
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Finished it a little while ago just wow Daisy pulling off the rasengan. Congrats to the writers for pulling off this arc countdown till April begins...
Callibretto
Member
Do we know if the regret that is removed in the framework is based on the characters actual regret, or just AIDA assumption of what are these characters regret from watching their memories?
It makes a difference I think.
It makes a difference I think.
Probably the second. May's regret was changed manually by Radcliffe, for example.
Rodney McKay
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Umm, so is Simmons going to have to bust out of her grave Kill Bill style in the next episode? D:
Aida/Agnes or Bobbi
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Aida/Agnes would probably be with Radcliffe.
Exploratory
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S4 of SHIELD is better than every other season of every other comic book show on TV or on Netflix. I mean...This episode was a fucking 10. It was a 10 and I cannot believe how good that was.
super-famicom
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Maria Hill
Daisy was insufferable and was hate so say the word but a borderline mary sue at times.
Tripp was a forgettable character in Season 1
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
The more I think about it, the more I believe it'll be Aida. She's already shown to have some sort of a connection to Fitz, so she could have put herself in there with him. Also, of all the people put into the Framework, he would be the biggest threat to it, so she would keep a closer eye on him that way.
ANTOINE TRIPPLETE WAS A GOD AND YOU WILL RESPECT HIM
Emotional FitzSimmons scenes always deliver. They have such great chemistry and the emotions seemed so real. I was pretty shook during that scene and it must've been heartwrenching for Jemma to have to stab a Fitz LMD to high heaven. Girl power was turned up to 11 and it was pretty glorious. I was waiting for Daisy to just straight up destroy one of them and she delivered. Even the bit of Maybot redemption. Please come back for another season, dammit.
MHWilliams
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Nothing really, just some speculation based on this gif;
That does looks like how Grant Ward walks.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
It's crazy how good this season is. I thought Ghost Rider would be the high point but nooooope. LMD just swoops in and gives us the best episode of the entire show. All the one-on-one scenes were so damn good, especially Jemma and Fitz. Goddamn at that scene. Everyone is great but Iain De Caestecker is the MVP.
He was barely even a character. I like BJ Britt a lot but lol @ this devastation over Tripp's death
Tripp was a burst of personality in a show that, at that time, had very little. It's come a long ways since then.
Aida is watching them in the framework and notices that Ward's extreme smugness throws everyone off, so she makes a Ward LMB to create sexual tension with all the women on the castYou know, if we get a season 5....could we get Grant-bot?
There have been some episodes that had more emotional moments and bigger narrative crescendos, but I definitely can see where people are coming from saying this is the best episode of the series.
Great action. Lots of real tension. Cool special effects (for the most part). Great story pay off. Amazing scenes with Fitz and Simmons. Touching scenes with Coulson and May. Awesome tense scene between Simmons and Daisy. Lots of Chloe fan service. And a few good twists to top it all off followed by an ending that floored me. I can see why Jed Whedon wanted to direct this episode himself.
They set up a really great scenario for the final episodes. I can't wait to see how it plays out.
This was also a great Secret Invasion type storyline that was executed very satisfyingly for me.
The season has been pretty much everything I hoped the show would be from day one.
Great action. Lots of real tension. Cool special effects (for the most part). Great story pay off. Amazing scenes with Fitz and Simmons. Touching scenes with Coulson and May. Awesome tense scene between Simmons and Daisy. Lots of Chloe fan service. And a few good twists to top it all off followed by an ending that floored me. I can see why Jed Whedon wanted to direct this episode himself.
They set up a really great scenario for the final episodes. I can't wait to see how it plays out.
May in the HYDRA Triskelion from The Winter Solider gave me chills.
The season has been pretty much everything I hoped the show would be from day one.
Callibretto
Member
They should take a break after season 4, split the cast to various mcu show, like Quake goes to Inhuman, Coulson to netflix defender, other going to Runaway and Cloak and Dagger. Then next year after Infi ity War part 1 is out, do a final season 5 where they reunite and prepare for Infinity War part 2 event.
Then reboot the show with a new name with same cast start at season 1 again for phase 4 mcu.
Then reboot the show with a new name with same cast start at season 1 again for phase 4 mcu.
What a fucking roll this show is on. Never fails to entertain.
The twists they can throw at is in the Framework are incalculable. They can bring back literally anyone- Bobbi, Hunter, Raina, Garrett, Tripp, Ros, Malick, Malick's hot daughter...
I'm expecting the reveal of Fitz's lady to be more mind-blowing than simply Aida.
The twists they can throw at is in the Framework are incalculable. They can bring back literally anyone- Bobbi, Hunter, Raina, Garrett, Tripp, Ros, Malick, Malick's hot daughter...
I'm expecting the reveal of Fitz's lady to be more mind-blowing than simply Aida.
FitzSimmons4life
FUNKNOWN iXi
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What a good episode. The performances by Jemma and Fitz are incredible.
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