If only you could pray the Omnivorism away
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"Aggressive vegans" are putting off people from changing eating habits, study finds
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If only you could pray the Omnivorism away
polyh3dron
Banned
this one person I work with can't stop talking about that What The Health documentary thing... ugh.
Always-honest
Banned
I have a few facebook friends who are like that. But i also have some aggressive anti vegans on Facebook.
Both are kind of sad.
Both are kind of sad.
The Hermit
Member
Herbivores don't hunt.
They're more like wildebeest. Just avoid them unless you see an elderly/young one straggle behind the main herd then you should call in your pride to gank it.
There's nothing that people w/ Celiac Disease hate more than people like this because it makes their lives so much more difficult.
Herbivores defend themselves though, it's all fair game in that regard
(We are omnivores mind, we can eat a wide range of foods, some of just chose to not eat things which may suffer or are killed for us).Can we make a thread about aggressiveness towards Vegans/Veggies from meat eaters; because apparently we deserve it (sure that's a classic bullying get out clause, somehow it's fine here; do actually think it's kind of nice people saying how it's not that widespread this kind of talk because it bloody is).
Your post comes across as you referring to meat eaters as assholes. My bad
Dash_Riprock
Member
Inferno313
Banned
I've never told anyone irl other than my mom that I'm vegan. No one cares what my diet is and I don't care about anyone else's diet. Most people are that way.
Pretty much this.
What if they're a marine vegan crossfitter? :O
Gentleman Jack
Member
Is that true in general though? I know two Celiac sufferers and they're fucking thrilled that gluten-free is a trend because it expands their options when eating out or shopping at supermarkets.
n=3 now, but I just gotta be sure about this gluten free thing before I build my veganproof suit of armor.
I've met way more aggressive meat eaters toward vegans/vegetarians than I have aggressive vegans toward meat eaters. Like... way more. It's not even close of a number. Most vegetarians I know get fucking outright harassed by meat eaters. It's freaking strange.
I remember watching this youtube channel called Vegan Gains, which is on paper a fitness channel, but the handful of videos I watched were all just this guy attacking and whining other fitness people who belittled or offended vegans in some way.
It was weird, and kinda sad.
The vegans I've met are maybe a little sensitive about food, but are generally pretty nice and not much judgmental.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Wtf is aggressive veganism? Are we talking about those activists on the side of the road holding up pictures of slaughtered animals Or that one friend/family member that is very particular about the food & cooking preparations at a cookout?
I literally never met an aggressive vegan in my life.
I literally never met an aggressive vegan in my life.
This study doesn't surprise me. For myself, I used to argue with vegans but I realized that I don't need to defend being an omnivore. I can afford to eat meat. I enjoy eating meat. I'll continue to eat meat as long as the previous two statements apply. I have no problem if someone doesn't want to consume animal products but that's a personal choice.
Now could someone pass the lamb chops, please.
It's definitely a stereotype about vegans, and it's not universal, but my god when you run across one of "those vegans" it really is obnoxious.
Now could someone pass the lamb chops, please.
It's definitely a stereotype about vegans, and it's not universal, but my god when you run across one of "those vegans" it really is obnoxious.
I always wondered how people felt about their conditions being turned into fads.
If you don't want gluten, just say it, don't be co-opting other people's struggles.
perfectchaos007
Member
I have never met a meat eater that said "I won't eat at this establishment because they serve vegetables here". I have met vegans that won't go into a room or business that serves meat. Its not a myth
All the vegan people I've met have been super nice and don't mind others eating meat in frint of them. I've never met an aggressive vegan.
Not discounting the possibility of them existing, lurking in the shadows, waiting for the right opportunity to violently snap at me for enjoying a delicious steak though.
Not discounting the possibility of them existing, lurking in the shadows, waiting for the right opportunity to violently snap at me for enjoying a delicious steak though.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
I don't buy it. If the occasional vegetarian asshole puts you off then I don't believe you were ever seriously considering it.
I've known both vegetarians who are totally cool with other people not following their practices and are very polite when they make requests for things. I've also known others who are very overbearing and in your face about it. For example, a vegetarian boss who gets in her employees' faces when she sees them eating meat, and requires that all employees bring vegetarian meals to any company potlucks.
By and large though, most vegetarians I've met come from the former camp. They just practice their lifestyle choice without pressuring others to do the same, which is fine by me. I respect their choices and they respect mine.
It's kind of the same thing as religious practices. I'm totally fine with other people's religious practices as long as they don't get aggressive to me about it. I'm much more likely to respect your faith if you're not constantly getting in my face about how I'm a horrible person for not following it.
By and large though, most vegetarians I've met come from the former camp. They just practice their lifestyle choice without pressuring others to do the same, which is fine by me. I respect their choices and they respect mine.
It's kind of the same thing as religious practices. I'm totally fine with other people's religious practices as long as they don't get aggressive to me about it. I'm much more likely to respect your faith if you're not constantly getting in my face about how I'm a horrible person for not following it.
It's a double-edged sword. The increased awareness and product offerings are great. But having "Gluten Free" options at Dominos/Papa John's that people w/ Celiac disease can't actually eat is not.
I'm confused, I will eat at a place that serves meat but meat eaters eat Veg, Vegans don't eat meat for ethical reasons. What's your point? We don't own Veg, if you consider meat a food over veg what the hecks wrong with you; you're an omnivore with I assume no ethical issue with veg.
Inferno313
Banned
Well, while I'm not like that, is it not easy to understand why? There's no viable moral objection to eating vegetables. That's a false equivalence.
Skellig Gra
Member
Pretty much.
Glass Rebel
Member
As someone who loves chicken I can't help but laugh at the insecurity meateaters put on display when it comes to vegans. How do you feel threatened by someone who can't even build muscle?
Albino_Yeti
Member
The only thing that stops aggressive vegans is the vegan police
"It's milk and eggs, bitch."
I personally know quite a few vegans having been one myself (currently attempting to again) for quite a few years in the past.
And only one of the many I met was preachy, and even then they were really nice about it.
I've met /plenty/ of people act like shits when it comes to vegansim.
I'm aware preachy shitty vegans exist, I've seen them on social media etc... but I think this is a case of a vocal minority being obnoxious and people not liking being told they're doing something bad.
And only one of the many I met was preachy, and even then they were really nice about it.
I've met /plenty/ of people act like shits when it comes to vegansim.
I'm aware preachy shitty vegans exist, I've seen them on social media etc... but I think this is a case of a vocal minority being obnoxious and people not liking being told they're doing something bad.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
The philosophical differences between the two stances will explain why that occurs.
I've met a lot of meat eaters that won't go into vegan restaurants, refuse to eat vegan meals, etc. Seriously, during my wedding the baker advised not to label the cupcakes as vegan because it'd turn people away.
Seriously, in my corner of the states the second you say you're vegan or vegetarian you get outright harassed and shown meat and told how amazing it is over and over.
I've also never met a vegetarian/vegan that refused to go into a restaurant that serves meat. Not doubting they exist, but I've met a ton of vegetarians/vegans in my life. Married one, even, and just haven't met someone like that. They go out to the same restaurants as others but order some shit that doesn't have meat.
Yep. If you feel threatened by vegans then I have to wonder why you can't just own the fact that you eat meat. I eat a lot of meat and I love doing so, it's tasty as fuck; I don't feel the need to assert any form of "dominance" over the vegan/veggie menace like some others do.
"How can you find a vegan in a darkened room? Don't worry, they'll be the only one not telling this joke."
first of all how dare u
I think it's simply a fact that the more militant someone is, the more likely you're going to know they are ___.
It's why militant atheists and vegans are a stereotype. People remember their friend who just won't shut up or refuses to be in the same room as meat more than the people who are quiet about it and don't impose upon others. It's perception.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
Hey, that's a really stupid reason to not be doing something.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
IMO aggressive vegans are not so much people like this GAFer's cousin's wife:
but more like people like this:
But I live in Europe where demonstrations and these kinds of public "happenings" are more common than in the US, I think.
but more like people like this:
But I live in Europe where demonstrations and these kinds of public "happenings" are more common than in the US, I think.
Inferno313
Banned
You know the vast majority of us have eaten meat at one point in time, yeah? We're not so sensitive that the mere sight of meat consumption causes us to panic...
jipewithin
Member
Same here, I know lots of people who are vegan or vegetarian but none are annoying or aggressive. Kind of weird people on the internet always bump in to those who start to preach about in imminently.
Whah; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian, loads of MMA fighters, David Haye, loads of athletes, All Vegan. Ignorance is an odd thing. As is the aggression from meat eaters.
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