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Ahsoka |OT| Ezra's out there somewhere, and it's time to bring him home.

Halcyon

Member
My main issue is that I like Ahsoka from clone wars but the version of Ahsoka from rebels and now this show is just very un-charismatic. It doesn't feel like Snips. I'm sure they'd argue that order 66 traumatized her and now she's cranky all the time. Just isn't interested to me I guess.
 

BlackTron

Member
My main issue is that I like Ahsoka from clone wars but the version of Ahsoka from rebels and now this show is just very un-charismatic. It doesn't feel like Snips. I'm sure they'd argue that order 66 traumatized her and now she's cranky all the time. Just isn't interested to me I guess.

She doesn't seem to work particularly well as an alien in live action in a costume either which we learned in Mando. And that isn't getting any better or helping things.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
My main issue is that I like Ahsoka from clone wars but the version of Ahsoka from rebels and now this show is just very un-charismatic. It doesn't feel like Snips. I'm sure they'd argue that order 66 traumatized her and now she's cranky all the time. Just isn't interested to me I guess.

Well, a lot of years have passed. Something like 15 years. She's no longer a kid. She's now a full grown adult. So she's not going to have that youthful energy. And she's seen a lot more than she did in Clone Wars.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Well, a lot of years have passed. Something like 15 years. She's no longer a kid. She's now a full grown adult. So she's not going to have that youthful energy. And she's seen a lot more than she did in Clone Wars.
Oh, she is way older than that. It's been more like 30 years since Clone Wars era Ahsoka, so she is pretty much Rosarios age. But I can see why folks would complain that she leaves the jedi order because of their suppression of emotion and ends up an emotionally suppressed adult anyway. She really should show how a force capable person COULD float between the 'saintly' Jedi and the 'prone to rage' Sith. Either you really buy into the cosmic "good vs evil" aspect of The Force (which it seems like they are completely abandoning) or you gotta give people personal accountability for how they use the force and all this Jedi/Sith crap are really just institutional means to control force users.

But Star Wars is obsessed with "wise sages" giving out cryptic advice, understandable as it is a classic trope, but that role shouldn't go to the main character IMHO.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I dont follow stars wars so I had to google who Ahsoka is.

For all you SW fans, arent you fans bloated with all the SW movies and TV shows? If yes, is it more of a quantity issue or a quality issue?
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
I dont follow stars wars so I had to google who Ahsoka is.

For all you SW fans, arent you fans bloated with all the SW movies and TV shows? If yes, is it more of a quantity issue or a quality issue?

Quality. Book of Boba Fett was only saved by Mando and Grogu. Only the First episode of Obi Wan and the finale were good. I liked season 3 of Mando, unlike some of these lot in here. I haven't seen all of Andor yet... First 2 eps put me to sleep... I'll try again.

So far, Ahsoka is entertaining to me.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
I dont follow stars wars so I had to google who Ahsoka is.

For all you SW fans, arent you fans bloated with all the SW movies and TV shows? If yes, is it more of a quantity issue or a quality issue?

I'm not even that big a fan, and even if you count some of the better cartoons like Rebels/CW, Bad Batch is a bit kiddy for me currently, and the Lego stuff is sometimes good and sometimes not.

But just the live action stuff is nothing. I don't even think if you added all the live action TV Disney+ shows together you'd have a total runtime over that of a single AAA game like Baldur's Gate 3.

So no, not really. People can get through 1,000 hours of games a year here, 60 hours to catch up with EVERYTHING on Star Wars isn't that much.
 

Toons

Member
I would assume Filoni is ACES with using storyboards to lay out action, as that's basically rough sketch animation. Establishing visuals, sweeping camera angles, and integrating the wackier side of Star Wars should be easy for him. What I want him to do is spend time with directors getting EMOTIONAL performances out of actors, especially they are acting against ping pong balls on sticks and pretty lightshow green screens. That's what sunk Lucas with the prequels IMHO, and the early Filoni directed eps of Mando had the same issue. Rosario in particular seemed VERY stiff and wooden in all that make-up, probably because she can't move her head easily without falling over, so hopefully for this show she has been taught to work around that.

I think that filoni actually wanted the lack of movement in the head and shoulders. Hes very much inspired by the old samurai films like kurosawa, and I could tell from the moment ahsoka showed up that he was pulling form that style. Shes framed like a Sentinel and portrayed as an older wiser type. She only moves when she has too, her fighting style is even more "efficient" here with less flips and grand stuff than she was showing off in Mando.

In the first scene she appears in she doesn't speak at all until an enemy appears, which i appreciated, very reminiscent of "samurai jack" sort of thing. I will have to watch more of her to get a full read on it but it seemed intentional to me
 

Toons

Member
Sorry my personal canon is the "split fanbase" timeline. If being a Star Wars "fan" means I either like and accept all of it, or none of it. Then I need to get the hell out.

I was willing to come back when things got good (Mando). I'm falling off again now that they're dire.

Imagine if you had to like every game sequel or else you "weren't a true fan". Keep making up the rules as you go sir.

I never said all that.

Theres more bad star wars content than good; been that way for a while.

Even the most ardent prequel defenders can't tell me they are flawless with a straight face, and before the sequels came out you'd have been laughed out of a star wars circle for trying to argue they were very good at all aside from ROTS.

What i mean is that we all like this universe and the tenets and themes of it, we like lighrsabers and jedi and cool stuff and I personally can enjoy those even if I don't enjoy the whole thing. For example, I think TPM is pretty weak as a film and a trilogy opener but that lightsaber duel near the end is still probably my favorite of them all in any star wars thing.

Im way past arguing about what to like and not like. Occasionally I will share my stances on what I do like or don't, and frankly I'm very forgiving with this franchise because I just love this universe and the characters in it. Even when the stories are meh and the plot holes are many I enjoy being here. Sue me.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
Quality. Book of Boba Fett was only saved by Mando and Grogu. Only the First episode of Obi Wan and the finale were good. I liked season 3 of Mando, unlike some of these lot in here. I haven't seen all of Andor yet... First 2 eps put me to sleep... I'll try again.

So far, Ahsoka is entertaining to me.
Plus, I’m amassed someone somewhere said “What Star Wars needs is more boîte hunters”. Da fuq? Andor was the same, it like they try on purpose not to do Jedi and Lightsabers.
 

VN1X

Banned
I saw a recap of the first two episodes and... ya-yikes!

Star Wars was already dead but now they're just ravaging its corpse for the last few morsels.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I'm not even that big a fan, and even if you count some of the better cartoons like Rebels/CW, Bad Batch is a bit kiddy for me currently, and the Lego stuff is sometimes good and sometimes not.

But just the live action stuff is nothing. I don't even think if you added all the live action TV Disney+ shows together you'd have a total runtime over that of a single AAA game like Baldur's Gate 3.

So no, not really. People can get through 1,000 hours of games a year here, 60 hours to catch up with EVERYTHING on Star Wars isn't that much.
I dunno, I don't think i could sit through more than 20 straight minutes of BG3 cutscenes. Vidja games can be played for hours and hours because you are ACTIVELY engaged in game mechanics, not just passively watching content. I'm sure KOTOR and even some of the newer more narratively focused star wars games are longer than all the films.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
I dunno, I don't think i could sit through more than 20 straight minutes of BG3 cutscenes. Vidja games can be played for hours and hours because you are ACTIVELY engaged in game mechanics, not just passively watching content. I'm sure KOTOR and even some of the newer more narratively focused star wars games are longer than all the films.

You must never have played games like Persona 4 etc, there's like 2-3 hours of cutscenes before the game starts haha. But I find quite a lot of story heavy games these days through you in loops that take much more than 20-30 minutes of your time to listen to the VA of the quests and people talking and exhaust all the NPC dialog.
 

BlackTron

Member
I never said all that.

Theres more bad star wars content than good; been that way for a while.

Even the most ardent prequel defenders can't tell me they are flawless with a straight face, and before the sequels came out you'd have been laughed out of a star wars circle for trying to argue they were very good at all aside from ROTS.

What i mean is that we all like this universe and the tenets and themes of it, we like lighrsabers and jedi and cool stuff and I personally can enjoy those even if I don't enjoy the whole thing. For example, I think TPM is pretty weak as a film and a trilogy opener but that lightsaber duel near the end is still probably my favorite of them all in any star wars thing.

Im way past arguing about what to like and not like. Occasionally I will share my stances on what I do like or don't, and frankly I'm very forgiving with this franchise because I just love this universe and the characters in it. Even when the stories are meh and the plot holes are many I enjoy being here. Sue me.

You're trying to have it both ways here. I'm very forgiving too -that's why I came back at all when they did something cool. During the ST debacle, I practically fell off being a fan. Didn't even want to think about SW, it was too depressing. I compartmentalized it away to enjoy Mando. I agree the best lightsaber fight is in the Episode 1. Back then I had no problem consuming the "bad" Star Wars content. PT is nowhere near as bad as ST, Boba Fett and Obi-Wan. What used to be seen as bad SW, now looks better in retrospect flooded with Disney SW. How do you define the difference between "arguing what to like or not" and "sharing your stance on what you do or don't like"? It's like a fluid line that can change based on need and context.

I personally reached my limit with Obi-Wan show. Despite its flaws I'd never want to skip Phantom Menace. But I finished Obi-Wan wishing I could just delete the whole thing from my brain. We're at a point where SW is literally better if I don't watch things, and given that the IP is very dear to me (it's almost as if I'm a SW fan), yes I'm defensive. I'd rather wait until all the eps are out and get impressions from people I trust than risk hurting myself while padding Disney's streaming numbers with yet another sucker.
 

Toons

Member
You're trying to have it both ways here. I'm very forgiving too -that's why I came back at all when they did something cool. During the ST debacle, I practically fell off being a fan. Didn't even want to think about SW, it was too depressing. I compartmentalized it away to enjoy Mando. I agree the best lightsaber fight is in the Episode 1. Back then I had no problem consuming the "bad" Star Wars content. PT is nowhere near as bad as ST, Boba Fett and Obi-Wan. What used to be seen as bad SW, now looks better in retrospect flooded with Disney SW. How do you define the difference between "arguing what to like or not" and "sharing your stance on what you do or don't like"? It's like a fluid line that can change based on need and context.

No its not.

The difference is arguing what to like by trying to argue others are wrong, or mentally ill for liking what you dont. Im simply stating what I like and the reasons I do. Thats the difference.

I personally reached my limit with Obi-Wan show. Despite its flaws I'd never want to skip Phantom Menace. But I finished Obi-Wan wishing I could just delete the whole thing from my brain. We're at a point where SW is literally better if I don't watch things, and given that the IP is very dear to me (it's almost as if I'm a SW fan), yes I'm defensive. I'd rather wait until all the eps are out and get impressions from people I trust than risk hurting myself while padding Disney's streaming numbers with yet another sucker.

You're not being defensive of anything though, becayse you're not defending something. You've more so been on the offensive in this thread, going after folks who liked Obi wan. To say the very least, I liked it way more than any of rhe prequels, and I strength disagree with your position on it, but like I said at this point, I'm more keen to let it be that way.
 

BlackTron

Member
No its not.

The difference is arguing what to like by trying to argue others are wrong, or mentally ill for liking what you dont. Im simply stating what I like and the reasons I do. Thats the difference.

You're not being defensive of anything though, becayse you're not defending something. You've more so been on the offensive in this thread, going after folks who liked Obi wan. To say the very least, I liked it way more than any of rhe prequels, and I strength disagree with your position on it, but like I said at this point, I'm more keen to let it be that way.
I meant I'm defensive against watching shows that make me depressed, not against forum warriors.

I thought Obi-Wan was universally despised. Not only was it bad, but they soaked up another beloved character to do it. So I expressed my legitimate surprise that anybody liked it. When I watched it, I felt actively insulted and treated like an idiot as a SW fan. In my opinion, PT has more respect for its audience. And that's a low bar.

Are you sure you aren't fooling yourself into liking it, because we want SW to be good, and we like the character OWK, and we don't want to live in a world where his show sucks. Same with Boba Fett. I personally can't be into it without self-awareness that I'm deluding myself. It's horrible. It makes me think they could shit in a box and call it Beloved Jedi: The Show and people would say "it wasn't that bad. I'm a SW fan!"
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
You're not being defensive of anything though, becayse you're not defending something. You've more so been on the offensive in this thread, going after folks who liked Obi wan. To say the very least, I liked it way more than any of rhe prequels, and I strength disagree with your position on it, but like I said at this point, I'm more keen to let it be that way.
Come now, the Obi-wan show has SO MANY completely indefensible moments in it, there is no question expanding the film script out to mini-series length was a terrible exec decision and the writing team was woefully not up to the task. Even Mando struggles when "the narrative" takes priority. I'm starting to think that Star Wars really only works in 1-2 hour chunks of largely episodic content, that can carry some serialized narrative threads but should be mostly self contained. Andor kinda exemplifies this by having those mini-arcs with a bit of a narrative/thematic reset between them. Far better than the meandering Fett, the filler of Obi-wan, and the distracted non-Mando S3 elements.
 

sloppyjoe_gamer

Gold Member
I watched the first episode and I thought the opening sequence with the sith was fun.


Self destruct robots that take just long enough to blow up is dumb. And saber through the chest should be a death sentence so I assume Sabine is dead.

kathleen kennedy GIF by popsugar
 

Toons

Member
I meant I'm defensive against watching shows that make me depressed, not against forum warriors.

I thought Obi-Wan was universally despised. Not only was it bad, but they soaked up another beloved character to do it. So I expressed my legitimate surprise that anybody liked it. When I watched it, I felt actively insulted and treated like an idiot as a SW fan. In my opinion, PT has more respect for its audience. And that's a low bar.

Are you sure you aren't fooling yourself into liking it, because we want SW to be good, and we like the character OWK, and we don't want to live in a world where his show sucks. Same with Boba Fett. I personally can't be into it without self-awareness that I'm deluding myself. It's horrible. It makes me think they could shit in a box and call it Beloved Jedi: The Show and people would say "it wasn't that bad. I'm a SW fan!"

Haha, yes I'm sure I enjoyed it.

I not only liked it, but I'm not even the only person I know who's a star wars fan, watched it and enjoyed it. Most casuals also enjoyed it.

It really shouldn't be this difficult to fathom that other people liked it. Thats where this hiccup is. You're so convinced that no one could possibly like obi wan, that you feel you have to go on the defensive when someone says they like it.

Honestly if this is the kinda stress that even discussing the franchise puts you under I dont know what to tell you man. Thats not a great mindset to keep up. I've had countless debates and arguments over star wars, and at some point I just stopped giving a s*** what someone else liked unless they were specifically trying to call me out or debate a show. The discourse was already bad before the buyout and the buyout didn't make it better. But there's still stuff to like, and if I like it I aim to do so unapologetically.

Come now, the Obi-wan show has SO MANY completely indefensible moments in it

So does the Prequel Trilogy. That doesnt mean its not possible to enjoy it though.
 

BlackTron

Member
Haha, yes I'm sure I enjoyed it.
Ok, ok. Enjoy your show. My saying I question the mental health of anyone who liked it was my way of giving it a bad review. Which was a one sentence take on the matter that cut to the chase. You're the one who got defensive that I had my own opinion on it and opened up this whole Expanded Universe of forum wars. If we can't both have our opinions then it's either "have the same or get out".
 

Toons

Member
Ok, ok. Enjoy your show. My saying I question the mental health of anyone who liked it was my way of giving it a bad review. Which was a one sentence take on the matter that cut to the chase. You're the one who got defensive that I had my own opinion on it and opened up this whole Expanded Universe of forum wars. If we can't both have our opinions then it's either "have the same or get out".

Are you reading these posts dude.

"I suggested that you were mentally un well because you liked a show I didn't, and you got defensive because I stated my opinion."

Im trying to be level with you here, do you realize how asinine of a statement that is? My initial post didn't even defend the show, I just said I liked it and even accepted your designation of a lacking mental state. In fact I still haven't actually defend the show lol, I just said I enjoyed it without going into any significant details about what I liked or didn't like.

No one insulted you for disliking this stuff, no one told you to get out for disliking obi wan and no one forced you to watch anything. You on the other hand came in firing shots and and then balked at a fairly nuetral response. You are being the source of the microaggressions here, you have to see that.
 
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BlackTron

Member
Are you reading these posts dude.

"I suggested that you were mentally un well because you liked a show I didn't, and you got defensive because I stated my opinion."

Im trying to be level with you here, do you realize how asinine of a statement that is? My initial post didn't even defend the show, I just said I liked it and even accepted your designation of a lacking mental state. In fact I still haven't actually defend the show lol, I just said I enjoyed it without going into any significant details about what I liked or didn't like.

No one insulted you for disliking this stuff, no one told you to get out for disliking obi wan and no one forced you to watch anything. You on the other hand came in firing shots and and then balked at a fairly nuetral response. You are being the source of the microaggressions here, you have to see that.

Did you say microaggressions?

You're right. I don't belong in SW discussions anymore
 

Minsc

Gold Member
So is there an OT for people who like the show or is it just for those who want to complain how much is sucks yet they seem to keep watching it to complain more every week?
 

ADiTAR

ידע זה כוח
So is there an OT for people who like the show or is it just for those who want to complain how much is sucks yet they seem to keep watching it to complain more every week?
It does seem like people are already coming with some pre-hate to anything Disney. The show is not terrible, it's not amazing either. It's ok. And that's ok.
 

Toons

Member
Why did the sith just cut her head off after to be sure?
To be sure of what? She wasn't there to kill Sabine. She was there to get the map and go.

She obviously didn't want to he facing ahsoka so got out of there, and sabine was still trying to fight even in her state. There was no reason to stick around and risk getting slowed down when she had what she came for
For reference:


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First off, no, they did not get hit in the same place.

Qui gon clearly got stabbled basically through the spine or close to it. Irs shown later that Sabine got stabbed in the right of her abdomen.

Finn, a male, got sliced up the middle of his back and survived. Ben gets stabbed in a similar place to Sabine and doesn't immediately die, but is healed.

Finally, Darth maul survives this. And that was way before disney.
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Were past this being a problem.
 
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BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I watched some of the suggested Rebels episodes to catch up prior to viewing the show.

I like how Filoni seemingly gives some nods to Lucas in his direction style. Some of it feels like very intentional homages - from his pregnant silences to the use of music. I love his penchant for approaching Jedi battles like a Kurosawa samurai duel.

I enjoyed how he quickly introduced the essence of some characters to a new audience. Such as Sabine. He quickly reveals to the audience that she is revered amongst the people, but at the same time does not seek fame, nor is she a fan of ceremony. The camera pans over her to show how she is obviously young and electric and artistic in character. The music also adds to this. Then we see how despite all of her chaotic traits and young age she has somehow gained the respect of the rank and file military of the rebellion.

Her scene ends with her literally driving off road which was a bit on the nose artistically.

Good stuff overall for me. Really enjoying it. It's obviously not on the level of Andor (after these two episodes) but it is miles better than Obi-Wan or Boba Fett. For that small grace I am thankful.
 
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Mattdaddy

Gold Member
I didnt watch Rebels or clone wars so this is kinda my first party with these characters.

I dont think its actively shit or anything like Kenobi & most of Book of Boba were... but the bad guys are really carrying all the weight imo. The good characters are about as dry and boring and vanilla as it gets, my god.

I guess they try to give Sabine a little sass but I think shes kinda annoying. But Ashoka and the green Twilek are a snoozefest.

The fights have been cool though and the two dark jedi and the witch are pretty interesting. Ray Stevenson makes a truly badass Sith (or whatever they are) RIP :(

I dont hate it I'll keep watching, probably the strongest offering outside of Andor or Mando S1 & S2. But hoping the light side gets some more spice asap. Dark side keeping things afloat for me right now.
 
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To be sure of what? She wasn't there to kill Sabine. She was there to get the map and go.

She obviously didn't want to he facing ahsoka so got out of there, and sabine was still trying to fight even in her state. There was no reason to stick around and risk getting slowed down when she had what she came for


First off, no, they did not get hit in the same place.

Qui gon clearly got stabbled basically through the spine or close to it. Irs shown later that Sabine got stabbed in the right of her abdomen.

Finn, a male, got sliced up the middle of his back and survived. Ben gets stabbed in a similar place to Sabine and doesn't immediately die, but is healed.

Finally, Darth maul survives this. And that was way before disney.
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Were past this being a problem.
Darth Maul surviving that - was that canon or was that in the extended universe?
 

Toons

Member
I watched episode three.

Strongest one yet. Reaaaally enjoyed this. My problems with the shooting and framing were mostly gone here, the dialofue felt more natural and the actors seemed to have a chemistry. Music was great too.

Thrilling action sequences too, and a neat little training sequence. Keep this up.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Darth Maul surviving that - was that canon or was that in the extended universe?
I'm -almost- ok with the idea that force users, particularly DARK force users, have an ability to survive otherwise grievous (heh heh) wounds (after all, Vader himself does as well) while light force users, or jedi in particular, have a greater willingness to move into the afterlife/force ghost realm rather than struggle on in pain and disability.

Now these ladies getting stabbed left and right and "it's just a flesh wound", hell, even RAMBO took a knee.

 

GymWolf

Member
I dont follow stars wars so I had to google who Ahsoka is.

For all you SW fans, arent you fans bloated with all the SW movies and TV shows? If yes, is it more of a quantity issue or a quality issue?
Disney made me completely stop caring about anything sw related way before the "quantity"...

I visit these topics just to giggle at how bad the brand has become.
 
Wow, that episode was entirely pointless.

I don't know why TV writers are still writing ~10 episode shows like they are ~20 episode shows. An episode like this in a 20 episode season is whatever, but when you've only got a handful (6 is it?) of episodes to tell a story then every episode needs to substantially move the plot forward. This episode didn't tell us anything new we didn't learn in the previous one.
 

gothmog

Gold Member
It does seem like people are already coming with some pre-hate to anything Disney. The show is not terrible, it's not amazing either. It's ok. And that's ok.
I agree with the pre hate but not sure I agree with the latter part. Disney doesn't have to treat their properties the same. I think it's okay for Marvel to not be amazing or world shattering every episode. I don't want it to be okay for Star Wars. They're different and that's okay. Marvel has monthly comics so a little filler is good. Star Wars has always been mysterious with a lot of its lore unknown. I expect that they give more respect for the audience and universe than they have been.

So far I have enjoyed the show as someone who has followed Clone Wars and Rebels. I just hope that they stick the landing and lead us to a new age of high quality Star Wars movies.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Wow, that episode was entirely pointless.

I don't know why TV writers are still writing ~10 episode shows like they are ~20 episode shows. An episode like this in a 20 episode season is whatever, but when you've only got a handful (6 is it?) of episodes to tell a story then every episode needs to substantially move the plot forward. This episode didn't tell us anything new we didn't learn in the previous one.
I feel like 6 eps is the "Golden number" as it lets them drop 2 up front but stretch the run past a 1 month free trial/binge sub. I'm sure there are buildings full of marketing weenies that show this is effective and once someone gets past the first month, they are very likely to let it run for another 6-12 months before dropping the service.

However, the STORY they want to tell in these heavily serialized shows is often only a movies worth, so it gets streeeeeeettcchhheed out.
 
I'm -almost- ok with the idea that force users, particularly DARK force users, have an ability to survive otherwise grievous (heh heh) wounds (after all, Vader himself does as well) while light force users, or jedi in particular, have a greater willingness to move into the afterlife/force ghost realm rather than struggle on in pain and disability.

Now these ladies getting stabbed left and right and "it's just a flesh wound", hell, even RAMBO took a knee.


I don’t Rambo had his insides melted with a thick fiery tube. He is also only doing it to prevent blood loss. Reminds of that fucking dumb episode of Rings of Power where that girl boss cauterised her wounds and was fine while her insides were all mush.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I don’t Rambo had his insides melted with a thick fiery tube. He is also only doing it to prevent blood loss. Reminds of that fucking dumb episode of Rings of Power where that girl boss cauterised her wounds and was fine while her insides were all mush.
Dammit, we were THIS CLOSE to getting this thread back on track and now you gotta bring in the Rings of Power haters????? :p
 

Dural

Member
I like the characters from Rebels enough that I'm happy to watch even filler with them in it. That said, I loved episode 3. Fantastic action sequences and seeing Ahsoka battling the starfighters was badass! Loved seeing Kanan and Hera's son too.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I like the characters from Rebels enough that I'm happy to watch even filler with them in it. That said, I loved episode 3. Fantastic action sequences and seeing Ahsoka battling the starfighters was badass! Loved seeing Kanan and Hera's son too.
Wha wha whaaaaaa? Was this "known" before? What....HOW would that even work? Is he a green human, or a tan twi'lek or whatever hera is? I know they teased a similar inter-species kid with a clone trooper in one of the shows but I've always felt that Star Wars kinda delicately tread AROUND any idea that these races could, or would, shag each other and have babies.
 
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