Basileus777
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VLR fixes 999's poor structure and was much better paced, but it also felt really uninspired and derivative with how Uchikoshi recycled a ton of his old ideas.
Aksys is teasing something
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lazyproblems
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theSlacker
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Also the 3d art style of VLR is
objectively
as long as we're talking about VLR (spoilerz)
(please don't hurt me)
I gotta say i honestly didn't enjoy it. I adored 999 outside of the true ending and i was super addicted to it, but going from that to VLR felt very strange. The setting felt less sinister, the characters weren't as interesting outside of Clover and that's honestly just my pro Clover bias talking, and the ending was just this weird incomprehensible mess. I threw my hands up when they showed me the stupid timeline flowchart and tried to act like it made any sense, i'm excited for ZE3 because i'd like to see how this all ends, but VLR to me is just not good at all
ShockingAlberto
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It's waaaay more than one or two scenes.
It's a button they hit purposely and with vigor. There's no denying that it's done for sales reasons.
lazyproblems
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Did the Infinity series also do poorly in Japan? He at least got to make a trilogy there, so I would think it did better than Zero Escape.
Basileus777
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I actually laughed when (VLR Ending spoilers)
blick winkel showed up.
You stated what I felt but in a less confrontational way. I think VLR is crap, but I'm waiting for the third game to see how everything will work out.
Funyarinpa
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VLR is uninspired, reuses plot twists, has a few badly designed characters, but I cannot help loving it.
Yep. Still fucking awesome. And reused twists or not, most of them did surprise me, although it was partially because I was actively trying not to figure out the twists beforehand lol.
grim-tales
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For fun I was searching around how to type Greek letters (but I cant do it).
The Greek letter Sigma corresponds to S in English, but I found that Phi is
The Greek letter Sigma corresponds to S in English, but I found that Phi is
Q
grim-tales
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Just watching the eclipse on TV - its talking about legends used to explain eclipses and keeps using the phrase "eating the sun", "that golden sun being eaten by the moon" etc, reminds me of something...
Well, disregarding Kodaka stating that a big reason why he added the blatant fanservice scenes in Danganronpa 2 for Mikan was for the sake of parody (which doesn't necessarily make it right, mind you), they attempted to further the fanservice going from 999 to VLR purely for the sake of sales (as well as toning down its sinister mood because it was too "scary" for the Japanese audience), and that had the exact opposite affect than intended.
Danganronpa 1 sold much better than 999 and VLR, and that game did not lean nearly as heavily on fanservice as its sequel. It's just a game that is more aesthetically and, potentially, conceptually appealing to its target audience.
Snakethesniper
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I'm still hoping for Ever 17 on steam someday
My opinion exactly. But I think it's mainly because I was looking too hard for connections with 999 characters that I felt disconnected with the story of VLR. It still had some very good moments, like the Luna ending. But overall, I think the 3D animations and the complete lack of tension made it a 6/10 in my book, where 999 is a perfect 10/10.
Tricky I Shadow
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Yep.
Most of the characters are about as deep as a puddle of water....talking to a lot of them in School+Island Mode was torture at times. I've been re-playing Virtue's Last Reward recently and it's like night and day. Looking back at it playing Danganronpa 1 and 2 was like eating McDonalds while playing 999 and VLR was like eating at a five star restaurant in comparison.
Uninspired?
In some twisted, masochistic way, I kind of want it to not be ZE3 just to see the amazing meltdown from us all.
Azure Phoenix
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I totally agree with you. VLR felt rather flat compared to 999 because there there was no feeling of impending danger and you'd likely go an incredibly long time before hitting the end of a route. The ending
was a complete clusterfuck as well, 2 hours of incomprehensible info dump mostly delivered by a character that had gone from being one of the best to the absolute worst. Having to sit through that bullshit after Luna's incredible ending was just painful.
Dénouement
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what on earth has this thread turned into i'm just trying to get my hopes up for ZE3 here
Mr. Nice_Guy
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As someone who hasn't beaten VLR yet, I don't know what I'm thinking looking through here.
pinkurocket
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This thread is actually Zero Escape 3.
Whatever it is, what you should be thinking is, "why the hell haven't I played VLR yet? What possible reason could there be? What's wrong with me?"
names2hard4you
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You are treading some dangerous ground here if that's so, spoiler bombs could drop at any time aha.
Better get out of here then and finish the game with all endings.
why are you even here? i'll gladly spoil it for you.
Funyarinpa
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Dude
RUN
Or there'll be no more Mr. Nice Guy... no more Mr. Cle-e-e-an (of spoilers)
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Fuck
yes
yes
If we're talking 999 vs VLR, throw me in with the VLR lot. It was a very different tone from 999 but that didn't make it any worse, imo. The ending blew my mind so many times but was actually not all that hard to follow. The way it tied everything together was just great.
I guess it helps I've never played any of his other works? I'm seeing people say he reused twists so I'm completely unaffected.
I guess it helps I've never played any of his other works? I'm seeing people say he reused twists so I'm completely unaffected.
Danganronpa is an otaku game that sold primarily to an otaku audience in Japan. The Zero Escape games don't share that aesthetic, and so were less popular in Japan. Outside of Japan, both series appeal to similar audiences, so we wouldn't see as much of a gap.
In a way, I suspect that the Zero Escape creators don't really understand otaku audiences at all and so they misinterpreted Clover's popularity in 999. I imagine that they tried to tailor her in VLR to appeal to her fans, but ended up screwing up her character instead.
I am ready.
Our day will come.
Memories... both games are 10/10
bobawesome
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I am ready.
Our day will come.
VLR is probably tied with Persona 4 Golden for best gaming experience on the Vita for me. Man, what a ride.
Is that what I think it is?
ladyluthien
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Oh boy oh boy oh boy
I hope it's what I would like, I asked some time ago about if they will bring zero escape 3 as they did with vlr and they asked me this: "just know if we can make it happen it will
". And now I have asked if they knew something about 4infinity and they have answered yes. #4thehype.Dénouement
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Where are the Aksys employees who are also Gaffers. [ C O M E ] to me.
R_thanatos
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I hope it's what I would like, I asked some time ago about if they will bring zero escape 3 as they did with vlr and they asked me this: "just know if we can make it happen it will
Wait i thought i couldn't be more hyped ...
Seems like i was WRONG...
Tricky I Shadow
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grim-tales
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So ZE3 definitely exsists or will exsist?
Surprised RSG know about it like its an actual thing.
Surprised RSG know about it like its an actual thing.
grim-tales
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Me: "@RisingStarGames do you know something about this : http://4infinity.co ? "
Risingstargames: "yes".
"Risingstargames: "yes".
Black Republican
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i miss Santa
my nigga
my nigga
grim-tales
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Me: "@RisingStarGames do you know something about this : http://4infinity.co ?
Risingstargames: "yes".
Ah OK, thanks
I'm not sure that means they know what it actually is, or whether theyre at liberty to say something, but if its ZE3, that means its coming to the UK!
Dragonslayer_023
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I can't tell you how disappointed I'll be if this countdown is just something coming to Steam.
Ah OK, thanks
I'm not sure that means they know what it actually is, or whether theyre at liberty to say something, but if its ZE3, that means its coming to the UK!
I don't know but, but they know more than us for sure
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