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[thief183]

Maybe it shouldn't have called it Alan Wake if you play him for about 30% of the game. I grew attached to the character and got screwed for the sequel... fk you Remedy, I hope they don't sell it.

 

[Senua]

Terrible game. I was very disappointed by the loud obnoxious jump scares, lack of combat, constant gatherering if crap with full inventory and bad puzzles. The gameplay loop consists of slow walking and puzzles. It’s barely engaging compared to other survival horror games. And the never ending Sam lake masturbation. I even liked the game before … he puts himself in every part of the game and that’s kinda almost fine. But the story is just trash. The new character is trash and the ending is trash.
And on top of that, they just port it to ps5 by slapping low on pc settings. No rt, no alternative solution, grainy war that doesn’t work and sub 30 performance with worst fsr2 this gen. And there controls are terrible on ps5. Worst dead zones and sensitivity ever.

I am usually not that critical and this game got some amazing setting, location forests and so on… but you end up pretending to be scared, pretending to be detective, pretending to be engaged. And spend hours listening to talking heads in your mind room.

I will get hate for this and I absolutely don’t get the critical acclaimed hype this game got… and I can’t sell it because it’s only on psn

You make this post in every Alan Wake 2 thread lol

 

[STARSBarry]

You make this post in every Alan Wake 2 thread lol

That's because every thread about Alan wake is "this game is amazing why is it not selling?"

Dude provides context as to why the game is shit and boring and no one is buying it

"Why you keep making post about how shit the game is?"

Should have called it Alan Sleep

 

[Hudo]

So it's only Epic Games that made a loss on it right? Since Remedy got the funding from Epic.

Maybe Epic could publish the game on Steam, lmao.

 

[proandrad]

Put it on steam and add lower-end settings so it can run on low end pcs.

 

[Senua]

That's because every thread about Alan wake is "this game is amazing why is it not selling?"

Dude provides context as to why the game is shit and boring and no one is buying it

"Why you keep making post about how shit the game is?"

Should have called it Alan Sleep

Your loss bruv

 

[OverHeat]

You make this post in every Alan Wake 2 thread lol

Yet he praise another game that is so shitty…forspoken

 

[Operations66]

Alan woke. Alan broke.

 

[xrnzaaas]

I can understand the game being exclusive on PC since Epic funded the whole project, but making it all-digital on the consoles is still unacceptable in my book. Instead of giving my money to Remedy for the physical version I was able to finish it on a shared account and they get 0 dollars.

 

[rofif]

You make this post in every Alan Wake 2 thread lol

 

[violence]

I know I put it down in the first few hours. I do get to play Alan Wake in Alan Wake eventually correct?

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Look, I love the game very much and Remedy in general, but they've made all sorts of mistakes, mostly thanks to their publisher Epic.

No physical? Minus 50% sales on consoles (thanks to Insomniac leak) plus the game is forever locked on the least popular PC storefront. Still no photomode in tech-heavy and very picturesque game? Minus the social media buzz and viral sales. And I think they should've made some sort of web-comics, short web-series or anything along these lines for people who don't wanna touch Control of AW1.

Doesnt help that at this point Epic itself is too involved into some sort of turf war with Apple to care about it's freaking publishing arm or it's games for that matter.

So yeah, It's kinda sad, but I'm not surprised in the slightest.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Game seems infested with DEI stuff, it could crash and burn for all I care.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

A 20 hour, one and done, single player game with a little known IP isn't selling well?

 

[Portugeezer]

Digital only

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Just release the goddamn game on Steam.

 

[CityHunter1981]

Cannot believe how some people dislike the game. It was great from start to finish. I am 42 and really don’t play many games these days due to my children, but for that game I used every opportunity to play it. Perhaps the game just clicks better with older gamers like me.

 

[Coloress_Kafka]

Wasn’t gonna buy it due to the performance issues on PS5 then my husband got a PC with a 4070 in it and I thought yeah I’ll just get it on Steam only to find out it was a EGS exclusive. So guess I’m waiting on PS5 Pro

 

[Mister Wolf]

I enjoyed my time with it. I can see why it didn't sell a lot though. Control is by far the better game and the best game Remedy has ever produced.

 

[Punished Miku]

Just release the goddamn game on Steam.

Epic fully funded the game and they have full ability to distribute the title themselves. Why should they give Valve 30%? This wasn't a paid exclusive. They are the publisher. Just seems weird that PC gamers demand a monopoly like that.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Just seems weird that PC gamers demand a monopoly like that.

As a PC user I have to agree, and I don't think the EGS exclusivity is to take all the blame here.

If people were so eager to buy Alan Wake 2 all they had to do was just to install the Epic client and buy the game. But apparently they didn't, probably because there isn't really all that much interest in the game to begin with.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Alan Wake 2 Still Hasn't Earned Back Its Budget | TechRaptor

Remedy has released its financial statement for the first quarter of 2024, and despite strong sales, Alan Wake 2 has yet to recoup its development costs.

techraptor.net

Opinion: a physical release would've helped to bring those numbers up, I'm sure.

My physical version when?

 

[Hohenheim]

My favourite game of 2023.
Not suprised that is's not a banger saleswise though.

 

[Hugare]

As I said before, Remedy had to sell their soul to Epic in order to make the game.

They've imposed PC exclusivity and being the publisher, they probably couldnt make physical console copies. Sucks for Remedy, but they would never have the budget to make the game otherwise, so oh well.

That said, the original AW is still the better game and I'll die on that hill

 

[Guilty_AI]

The game was sabotaged in so many fronts, its not surprising at all.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Considering that Alan Wake Remastered never got a Steam release, I think those of you waiting for a Steam release are going to be disappointed. Epic literally funded the game so that it could be exclusive to the Epic games launchers, which isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

I could be wrong, but I am not holding out hope for a Steam release. I just feel Epic invested too much into this game to let that happen.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Considering that Alan Wake Remastered never got a Steam release, I think those of you waiting for a Steam release are going to be disappointed. Epic literally funded the game so that it could be exclusive to the Epic games launchers, which isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

I could be wrong, but I am not holding out hope for a Steam release. I just feel Epic invested too much into this game to let that happen.

The problem is there isn't much investment on the series/IP from the public to begin with, not to mention the game doesn't seem all that great either. A lot of game purchases are half whimsical and putting up barriers, even small ones, to a product people are only mildly interested in is fatal.

They can keep it Epic exclusive, but they won't be doing themselves any favors that way.

 

[SmokedMeat]

So it's only Epic Games that made a loss on it right? Since Remedy got the funding from Epic.

Maybe Epic could publish the game on Steam, lmao.

Well, Remedy isn’t seeing a cent until Epic makes their money back.

I honestly don’t know how Remedy manages to stay afloat with all of their flops.

 

[J3nga]

Considering that Alan Wake Remastered never got a Steam release, I think those of you waiting for a Steam release are going to be disappointed. Epic literally funded the game so that it could be exclusive to the Epic games launchers, which isn't as bad as people make it out to be.

I could be wrong, but I am not holding out hope for a Steam release. I just feel Epic invested too much into this game to let that happen.

Epic would rather watch game flop than giving to Gabe.

 

[Buggy Loop]

He should really have went through with this plan

Get fucked Tim. Release the game on Steam.

 

[Alan Wake]

Epic exclusive was a catastrophic error in judgement, even if it netted some extra dev budget.

Probably the only way the game could be made?

 

[Diddy X]

Just release the goddamn game on Steam.

Honestly I don't see that happening.

 

[Alan Wake]

My biggest issue with AW2 is boring enemy design especially if you are going for survival horror game then monster design very important.

That and the still pretty dull combat. They improved it by a tiny bit but not by much. Remedy obviously focused on presentation, not gameplay.

 

[Punished Miku]

Epic would rather watch game flop than giving to Gabe.

Hard to blame them. I don't know why consumers cheer it on honestly. Taking 1/3rd of every game on PC and going towards another yacht for Gabe (he has 6). At least Epic makes games and game engines, and they're tossing out tons of games for free. I really don't get PC gamers' mindset. If Epic Store actually grew, Valve might have to spend some of their money on something to compete.

 

[Heaven Angel]

It was a captivating experience, really like the game, should've sold way more than what it did right now. I read it recouped most of the development and marketing expenses.
Also, there should've been a physical release and Steam release to significantly help boost the sales. I hope Remedy was funded well by Epic for the exclusive rights.

 

[Arsic]

We should get together and make a consulting firm opposite of sweet baby inc.

Sour Adult Co.

Give them giga Chad advice to make their games good and land with the white assholes who played this game.

 

[ShirAhava]

Its a crime such a crappy IP got a sequel in the first place

Remedy is everything bad about modern video games in a dull uninteresting package

Control was a fluke

 

[Hudo]

Well, Remedy isn’t seeing a cent until Epic makes their money back.

I honestly don’t know how Remedy manages to stay afloat with all of their flops.

Ah, so the contract was that they pay Remedy the costs if the game breaks even?

Afaik, Control did not flop, or did it?

 

[diffusionx]

Sweet Baby, Epic Games Store is sales poison, and people still want physical releases.

 

[Randall365]

Financial ruin?

SWEET BABY INC DETECTED

 

[Salz01]

They should implement 40hz mode on consoles. It seems lazy that they don’t. I still haven’t finished it. Maybe one day… and they still haven’t even shown the dlc for this….

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Honestly I don't see that happening.

It'll happen sooner or later, after all DLC for the game will be launched.

Epic fully funded the game and they have full ability to distribute the title themselves. Why should they give Valve 30%? This wasn't a paid exclusive. They are the publisher. Just seems weird that PC gamers demand a monopoly like that.

I'm not demanding anything. I'll happen eventually whether they like to or not.

 

[Fake]

They paid the price for their actions. Mix bag game, no physical and no steam. The perfect recipe for fail.

 

[CherryFalls]

Remedy fallen so hard.

 

[Black_Stride]

Well, Remedy isn’t seeing a cent until Epic makes their money back.

I honestly don’t know how Remedy manages to stay afloat with all of their flops.

An attack against Remedy?!?!

Im sending that right back!!!!

But seriously.
Theyve been cutting some damn good deals and are a seemingly a very frugal developer.
Control only cost them 30 million to make, yet brought in like 3 times that.
A 3 to 1 return on investment for Remedy made them look very good to other publishers.

Their deals are good and they have an interesting ownership structure......they aint closing any time soon. (knock on wood)

• Alan Wake - Microsoft footing the bill.
• Amaerican Nightmare - Microsoft footing the bill.
• Quantum Break - Microsoft footing the bill.
• Control - 505 Games put in alot and the game was "cheap" to make.
• Alan Wake Remastered - Epic Games.
• CrossFire X - Microsoft and Smilegate. (This has to be one of the best deals in gaming history, this campaign must have cost them 3 dollars to make)
• Alan Wake 2 - Epic Games.
• Control 2 - 505 Games.....though Remedy just bought Control from 505 Games, so this one is gonna be crucial for them, hopefully they find a good publisher.
• Condor - Same as above.
• Max Payne Remake - Rockstar footing the bill.
• Kestral - Tencent footing the bill.

 

[Arsic]

An attack against Remedy?!?!

Im sending that right back!!!!

But seriously.
Theyve been cutting some damn good deals and are a seemingly a very frugal developer.
Control only cost them 30 million to make, yet brought in like 3 times that.
A 3 to 1 return on investment for Remedy made them look very good to other publishers.

Their deals are good and they have an interesting ownership structure......they aint closing any time soon. (knock on wood)

• Alan Wake - Microsoft footing the bill.
• Amaerican Nightmare - Microsoft footing the bill.
• Quantum Break - Microsoft footing the bill.
• Control - 505 Games put in alot and the game was "cheap" to make.
• Alan Wake Remastered - Epic Games.
• CrossFire X - Microsoft and Smilegate. (This has to be one of the best deals in gaming history, this campaign must have cost them 3 dollars to make)
• Alan Wake 2 - Epic Games.
• Control 2 - 505 Games.....though Remedy just bought Control from 505 Games, so this one is gonna be crucial for them, hopefully they find a good publisher.
• Condor - Same as above.
• Max Payne Remake - Rockstar footing the bill.
• Kestral - Tencent footing the bill.

Not a bad way to do business. You get to keep making the games you want without being financially responsible for sales lol.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

I still can't bring myself to finish the first game. Sometimes sequels isn't the safest idea like some think.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Ah, so the contract was that they pay Remedy the costs if the game breaks even?

Afaik, Control did not flop, or did it?

Epic pays the development costs upfront, but Remedy doesn’t make any money off the game’s sales until Epic recoups their share.
It took quite some time for Alan Wake Remaster to break even, so AW2 might be even worse.

Control didn’t flop. I don’t know what actual sales were, but I do know they gave that sucker away for free on Prime Gaming, Epic, AMD GPU bundles, and Humble.

 

[Black_Stride]

Not a bad way to do business. You get to keep making the games you want without being financially responsible for sales lol.

Probably one of the smarter ways to do business as an Indie studio.
Set reasonable budgets so publishers dont feel as much risk dealiing with you.
Knowing you dont need to hammer out 10 or 20 million units also means already some of the pressure is off.
You have your own engine and engine engineers.....anything you need for the game you just do in house.
Being a powerhouse engine, you can implement pretty much whatever you want..........Nvidia knows this.
Nvidia sends you another paycheck to use basically every feature their new hardware has......you were already going to do that.

Their Business model is legit.

 

[Moochi]

I played 10 minutes and was bored to tears despite fantastic graphics.