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Alan Wake 2: Lack Of Sales Update Suggests It Didn’t Sell Too Well

Alan Wake II is an absolutely brilliant game that pushes the action/horror genre several steps forward.

If you’re a fan of the action/horror but you’re waiting for a physical release or a sale price, you’re doing the genre a huge disservice. Publishers are going to stop putting any kind of decent funding to single player horror unless the game’s name is Resident Evil.
I would say the publishers were the ones who did it a disservice, not the consumer.
 

HeWhoWalks

Gold Member
Companies arent race swapping for the sake of it. They are race swapping since it's an easier sell to customers an existing movie or game franchise with a racial or gender swap, then to create a brand new IP where the newly created lead characters are non-whities.

The companies have zero confidence in that kind of material being a big seller.
If that's true, that they are doing it for more appeal, have we broken down how much success has come from said decision? I only ask because how do we know if The Little Mermaid, for example, would have done worse if Ariel remained a white, red-haired girl? If casting a black girl instead helped the franchise then sure, I'd give that credit where due. We just need a breakdown of financials/critical reception before we can proclaim this (again, just an example).

Also, would Blank Panther → White Panther have the same reception/success? I'm not offering a horse for the race, rather, a perspective. If things can be done and not being bogged down by double-standards, then that's another matter.
 
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Zathalus

Member
I havent played the game.

So if she got mind controlled to say bad things, does she say any negative stuff to other ethnic backgrounds? Or just against white people?
No, because she is being mind controlled to say bad things about a certain character. Among other things like how she is a terrible mother. It's not something that suddenly comes out of nowhere. It was an attempt to break her mind.
 
It's a good game - well produced. Probably has a false reputation for being too demanding on PC hardware and also being on EGS was a mistake.
Idk it was killing my 3060ti and had to run it in dlss down to 768p or whatever. I'm guessing a regular 3060 would have been 500ishp.
 

ChoosableOne

ChoosableAll
I regretted not listening to players about Death Stranding. I won't make the same mistake with this game. I've read many comments about it being boring, so I think I'll wait for it to come to Gamepass.
 
well, you're a mid-level developer, & you sink all this money, time, & energy into what's fundamentally a vanity project centered around a game released a dozen years ago, & this's just not all that surprising, eh?...

to any & all interested in the game but holding off: i would genuinely just love, really love, to give you my fucking copy, but i can't because it's fucking digital, which means i'm fucking stuck with it... smh. i'm an idiot...
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
No, because she is being mind controlled to say bad things about a certain character. Among other things like how she is a terrible mother. It's not something that suddenly comes out of nowhere. It was an attempt to break her mind.
She isnt mind controlled.
It’s her bad side coming out. Her inner thoughts that everyone keeps for themselves.
Doesn’t matter anyway. The sheer fact of going this way invokes the whole argument
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I regretted not listening to players about Death Stranding. I won't make the same mistake with this game. I've read many comments about it being boring, so I think I'll wait for it to come to Gamepass.
Games like this (whether it's Alan Wake 2 or a different game), are typically short SP narratives. You arent losing out waiting unless you truly crave the game and click on spoilers. It makes no difference if you play it now or wait a year for a bargain bin or sub plan.

It's not like playing MP sports or shooters where you got to get in at the beginning to level up with everyone else so you arent a level 1 scrub getting plastered.

I just got into buying Steam and GOG games during Xmas 2020. Some games i bought and enjoy playing are made in the 90s. And some of the indie bargain games I buy for $3 are made years ago. Still the same game. If anything, it's better now than years ago because I get the game with multiple patches already built into the game. No MP requirement needed in these games for modern day competitive gaming. So it can wait.
 

Metnut

Member
It’s a bummer but the writing was on the wall. Competition was incredibly stoff this year. So many good games. I think it’ll have a good long term tail though. They should think about story DLC.
 

Zathalus

Member
She isnt mind controlled.
It’s her bad side coming out. Her inner thoughts that everyone keeps for themselves.
Doesn’t matter anyway. The sheer fact of going this way invokes the whole argument
Yes, mind controlled to let her innermost terrible thoughts take over her entire mindset. Break her down so the darkness can take over. The argument is only brought up in a dishonest way that entirely lacks context. When I first saw it on this forum I was not a fan of it myself, and then I got to that exact part and it was nothing.
 

Gojiira

Member
I mean Remedy just seem to love shooting themselves in the foot, the original Alan Wake didnt set the world on fire either thanks to exclusivity and poor marketing, American Nightmare the same. Quantum Break flopped again due to exclusivity on a smaller player base. And now AW2…Digital only, exclusive to EGS, come the fuck on this level of stupidity is beyond a joke, if your going digital only you damn fucking well better have a Steam release, its just so unbelievably fucking STUPID to think EGS was a good idea…
 

ChoosableOne

ChoosableAll
Games like this (whether it's Alan Wake 2 or a different game), are typically short SP narratives. You arent losing out waiting unless you truly crave the game and click on spoilers. It makes no difference if you play it now or wait a year for a bargain bin or sub plan.

It's not like playing MP sports or shooters where you got to get in at the beginning to level up with everyone else so you arent a level 1 scrub getting plastered.

I just got into buying Steam and GOG games during Xmas 2020. Some games i bought and enjoy playing are made in the 90s. And some of the indie bargain games I buy for $3 are made years ago. Still the same game. If anything, it's better now than years ago because I get the game with multiple patches already built into the game. No MP requirement needed in these games for modern day competitive gaming. So it can wait.
The fact that it has impressed reviewers so much and won major awards has piqued my curiosity, especially with the substantial discount on Epic. But you're right, it can wait.
 
Well, I did my part by purchasing the Deluxe Edition for my XSX. Hopefully more new players discover how awesome this game is. I've only put about 10 hours so far myself, but every minute has been a blast. I loved the original Alan Wake when I played it about 10 years ago, and the sequel has so far exceeded my expectations in every way.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
I regretted not listening to players about Death Stranding. I won't make the same mistake with this game. I've read many comments about it being boring, so I think I'll wait for it to come to Gamepass.
Alan Wake 2 can only dream to have so many innovative complex gameplay mechanics as Death Stranding. anyone who says DS is a walking sim have not played the game.
 
I havent played the game.

So if she got mind controlled to say bad things, does she say any negative stuff to other ethnic backgrounds? Or just against white people?

Even if she doesn't, that doesn't mean the game is woke as others are implying. That would mean she is simply racist. Either way,
I'm just gonna let it be. Thread is probably going somewhere it shouldn't.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I mean Remedy just seem to love shooting themselves in the foot, the original Alan Wake didnt set the world on fire either thanks to exclusivity and poor marketing, American Nightmare the same. Quantum Break flopped again due to exclusivity on a smaller player base. And now AW2…Digital only, exclusive to EGS, come the fuck on this level of stupidity is beyond a joke, if your going digital only you damn fucking well better have a Steam release, its just so unbelievably fucking STUPID to think EGS was a good idea…
Remedy knows their games arent blockbuster sellers, so they ensure to do marketing partnerships to guarantee a set amount of money to cover the costs. I dont think any games they have made are big sellers. Taking a skim of some of their games on wiki, a game might top out at 3-5M copies after selling for a long time (which would include bargain binning).

Who knows how many copies AW2 will sell... at some point it'll be on Steam... but it'll probably be in the same range.
 

hinch7

Member
I’d say that’s a given. If not for subscription services to sell to, Remedy would’ve probably gone under by now.
They're like the western version of Platinum Games. Industry darlings and get good critical reception but not many interested in actually buying their games. But still get funded and supported by publishers anyways.

Love Max Payne and all but honestly haven't been that impressed by their most recent games. Alan Wake (OG) was pretty okay as was Control but they haven't been able to hit the same highs as they did with MP. All that said I'm glad AW2 is a thing (didn't really like it though).
 

ProtoByte

Weeb Underling
Alan Wake II is an absolutely brilliant game that pushes the action/horror genre several steps forward.

If you’re a fan of the action/horror but you’re waiting for a physical release or a sale price, you’re doing the genre a huge disservice. Publishers are going to stop putting any kind of decent funding to single player horror unless the game’s name is Resident Evil.
Then the publishers shouldn't be so stupid as to make said single player horror game and not realise that the audience that likes that stuff has a massive overlap with people who prefer physical copies with the full game on disc.
 

Fake

Member
I'm convinced that a bunch of you guys just cry woke for the sake of crying woke. Like literally anything you don't like......WOKE.
Especially this guy. lol

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WTF are you? A 'like button' supervisor?

I never saw someone so defensive about a game before. Good lord dude, go touch the grass or something.
 
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No physical release on an AAA game is stupid.
Alan Wake remastered has been living in my backlog, so I haven't even considered buying this yet.
 

Terenty

Member
FMV games is a very niche genre. They stopped making them somewhere in the 90s when 3d graphics took over.

God knows why Remedy regressed so much
 

DaciaJC

Gold Member
I wonder if Epic ended up taking a net loss from funding the game. Honestly, I wouldn't be sad at all.
 
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I've tried to troll by calling every 3rd person game a sony game but was never able to make it stick. Can you help me?
of course is not going to stick because a "sony game" means the highest production values and polish in the biz.

only salty and ignorant boys will used it as some kind of pejorative that tries to imply that a sony game is not a real game.
 

swaffles23

Member
I would've been there day 1 if it was physical.. as time goes on, I honestly just don't care about playing it anymore.

Hopefully this no physical release is just a Remedy thing because Epic is also funding and publishing Fumito Ueda's game and I need that physically
 

Ansphn

Member
Honestly i was going to buy the game until i seen a video of a dude laughing at a scene in the game where the protagonist is singing and dancing with some rock band when this game was supposed to be scary.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
Given how bad the first one was (seriously, it was bad, but worst than being bad, it was a giant let down and probably the most over promised game ever, it went from being an open world spectacle of technology to a linear POS missing every major promised feature) I fully can understand why people are not running to the store to buy its sequel. I'll probably pick it up when its cheaper or at least check it out based on reviews, but I'm not expecting much from it.

God I hate that first game.
 
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Ev1L AuRoN

Member
I think the game will have some legs on PC, when the game hit steam I'll double-dip on PC to experience the path tracing in the game (by that time I might already upgrade by rig), I finished the game on PS5, and it was a good experience, the noisy specular highlights were the thing that annoyed me the most.
 

Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
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  • Remedy Entertainment has not announced any sales figures for Alan Wake 2 after nearly two months, pointing to poor sales.
  • Exclusivity on Epic Games and the lack of a physical release might have hindered sales.
  • The sales numbers may have improved after Alan Wake 2 won various awards at TGA 2023.
It’s been almost two months since Alan Wake 2 was released. While the game is undoubtedly a massive success among the fans, the financial numbers might not have lived up to expectations.

Despite this impressive horror release, Remedy Entertainment has yet to announce any sales figures, suggesting the game didn’t sell well.

Concerns were raised when Mat Piscatella from Circana reported that the game failed to make it among the top 100 played titles on Xbox and PlayStation. While Epic Games sales weren’t included, this was a major red flag.



In a year like 2023, Remnant 2 sold 1 million copies in a week. Therefore, there was reason to believe Alan Wake 2 would achieve even better results, but nearly two months after launch, Remedy Entertainment has not made any announcements.

Source

Don't feel like making a separate thread since this one already has huge traction, but maybe you can add this tweet to the OP?

 

Calverz

Member
Bought this day one on epic store. Initially I found it too slow at the start but then it got it better as it went along. Overall I enjoyed it and glad I played through it all when I did.
 

Monserrat

Banned
There is a reason as to why MS never bothered with a sequel, also the ambient seems boring as hell and the whole gameplay mechanics are soporiferous, it's like Remedy will never get rid of this tech demo vibes in all of their games. (And the acting... good lord, is it bad on purpose?).
 

Labadal

Member
Arrogant game dev studio is told to release a physical version, and a Steam version.

Arrogant game dev studio takes EGS exclusivity money, and ignores physical version.

Game sells below expectations.

Oh no.
...
Anyways
 
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