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Aldnoah Zero Season 2 |OT| Inaho or Out, It's All The Slaine
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Wiktor
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He will dissapoint you in the end, just like he dissapointed everyone else. #TheSlaineWay
He has never disappointed me because I expect nothing from him. I'm a true #TeamSlaine to the end. Ask not what Slaine can do for you, but what you can do for Slaine!
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I don't know. We saw what happened to the last guy who did something (SAVED THE PERSON HE LOVED) for him.
Edit: I wasn't here for the CPR episode, but since I'm here now:
Gawd, what bullshit. No broken ribs or anything after that many compressions? I really wish they'd stop pulling that crap, especially when the downsides of CPR should be common knowledge by now.
Episode 12
Slaine was quite likable up until after he had the option of jumping into the mech and failed to do so until the very last second, and then ALSO made the wrong choice when it came to the Count's end.
Seriously, that last choice completely ruined any chance he had of being seen in a favorable light. I don't even know how the writer(s) justified that particular decision, considering he has pretty much no reason to be loyal to the Count of all people. It's not like he hid his intention to kill the Princess at all, and that was literally the entire reason he went through all that shit.
I'm really curious how the second season is going to go, but mostly because, seriously, where is there to go after this? I honestly have no idea, so I'm curious just to see where they start and how it all ends. They've got their work cut out for them however, especially if Slaine is the main protagonist of the second season.
At least Rayet redeemed herself. Well, it's hard to hate her, really, since she's caught between two sides and had to deal with her PTSD and all that jazz. Speaking of PTSD, I'm glad it was a major part of the plot, and enjoyed the way they handled it with Marito's therapy session and all. Most of the time PTSD is just used to create tension during a situation where a character's performance suffers from it and isn't actually addressed in some way, so this was a very nice change of pace.
Not sure how the UE actually "won" at the end there. I mean, they won the battle, but the message was intercepted so the war is still going, isn't it? I fully expect this will be addressed at the start of the second season, and if it isn't...
Slaine does get points for shooting the fuck out of that traitor with only a short moment's hesitation. I've watched waaaay too many series with chickenshit protagonists, so that was a nice change of pace.
Don't have a fuckin' clue why he did what he did with the Count, tho. Not a damn clue.
Gawd, what bullshit. No broken ribs or anything after that many compressions? I really wish they'd stop pulling that crap, especially when the downsides of CPR should be common knowledge by now.
Episode 12
Slaine was quite likable up until after he had the option of jumping into the mech and failed to do so until the very last second, and then ALSO made the wrong choice when it came to the Count's end.
Seriously, that last choice completely ruined any chance he had of being seen in a favorable light. I don't even know how the writer(s) justified that particular decision, considering he has pretty much no reason to be loyal to the Count of all people. It's not like he hid his intention to kill the Princess at all, and that was literally the entire reason he went through all that shit.
I'm really curious how the second season is going to go, but mostly because, seriously, where is there to go after this? I honestly have no idea, so I'm curious just to see where they start and how it all ends. They've got their work cut out for them however, especially if Slaine is the main protagonist of the second season.
At least Rayet redeemed herself. Well, it's hard to hate her, really, since she's caught between two sides and had to deal with her PTSD and all that jazz. Speaking of PTSD, I'm glad it was a major part of the plot, and enjoyed the way they handled it with Marito's therapy session and all. Most of the time PTSD is just used to create tension during a situation where a character's performance suffers from it and isn't actually addressed in some way, so this was a very nice change of pace.
Not sure how the UE actually "won" at the end there. I mean, they won the battle, but the message was intercepted so the war is still going, isn't it? I fully expect this will be addressed at the start of the second season, and if it isn't...
Haha, pretty interesting seeing all the different opinions on here. I personally found Inaho refreshing in terms of just how decisive he is, though I would have appreciated some backstory on how he became so cold and logical (outside of simply "he was born that way" which is obviously a massive cop-out).
Slaine does get points for shooting the fuck out of that traitor with only a short moment's hesitation. I've watched waaaay too many series with chickenshit protagonists, so that was a nice change of pace.
Don't have a fuckin' clue why he did what he did with the Count, tho. Not a damn clue.
warningjab
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Farrrrk. That ending.
All in all, I enjoyed the anime quite a bit and hyped for the 2nd half. Here's hoping Inaho lives, which is highly unlikely.
All in all, I enjoyed the anime quite a bit and hyped for the 2nd half. Here's hoping Inaho lives, which is highly unlikely.
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How many people actively working against their own interests and/or characters can you string together in a row? Inaho, the cool and calculated guy, drops his gun to fist fight the transforming wundermech, leading to Slaine saving the count that is actively trying (thus the entire reason for the operation) to kill his beloved princess. Slaine then gets real mad when the count does the obvious thing that the count was going to do. Everything after that... he got NTR'd, realized he was a lifetime jobber, and snapped. Whatever. But everything before is just...uggg. It's like they had this idea for the ending and had no idea how to get there in a way that made any sort of sense.
I can't envision a season 2 right now. The Earth only "Won" the battle because Hime-chan turned off the lights. With a bunch of other castles wrecking shit all over the place and Earth HQ in near ruins, how do they fight? Is Slaine going to reveal to them the secret of the space magic? Will they have played the old Hime death switcharoo again? Is Elditzo secretly a princess?
Meh.
How many people actively working against their own interests and/or characters can you string together in a row? Inaho, the cool and calculated guy, drops his gun to fist fight the transforming wundermech, leading to Slaine saving the count that is actively trying (thus the entire reason for the operation) to kill his beloved princess. Slaine then gets real mad when the count does the obvious thing that the count was going to do. Everything after that... he got NTR'd, realized he was a lifetime jobber, and snapped. Whatever. But everything before is just...uggg. It's like they had this idea for the ending and had no idea how to get there in a way that made any sort of sense.
I can't envision a season 2 right now. The Earth only "Won" the battle because Hime-chan turned off the lights. With a bunch of other castles wrecking shit all over the place and Earth HQ in near ruins, how do they fight? Is Slaine going to reveal to them the secret of the space magic? Will they have played the old Hime death switcharoo again? Is Elditzo secretly a princess?
Meh.
The comments in this thread are hilarious. Never thought I'd see people hating on Inaho. He wasn't a particularly memorable protagonist for sure, but I couldn't imagine he'd be this divisive. It was interesting that he and the princess got capped though. I wasn't expecting that.
Slaine on the other hand, is a complete idiot. Wtf is he thinking. Dude is all kinds of dumb.
Anyway, good episode, good series. Can't wait till next season. I'm assuming we will see a new cast of characters. Someone needs to put Slaine in his place.
Slaine on the other hand, is a complete idiot. Wtf is he thinking. Dude is all kinds of dumb.
Anyway, good episode, good series. Can't wait till next season. I'm assuming we will see a new cast of characters. Someone needs to put Slaine in his place.
Hm...setting my expectations very low for what's left of this series. No idea what they're supposed to be doing with it now
. Watching any more of this will be out of a sense of obligation on my part for having seen this much, rather than any remaining anticipation.
And yes, Slaine is dumb as hell.
(especially when absolutely no one other than Inaho had any idea what they were doing, so it's not like there will be any interesting or effective battle plans to look forward to anymore with him dead)
And yes, Slaine is dumb as hell.
Inaho and the Princess are alive don't worry guys. Slaine can't even aim with a gun. From the 7-8 shots he fired at Saazbaum he only hit him 1-2 times in the chest the other bullets went 2 meters away from him.
Even Saazbaum showed Slaine in his last moments that he needs to aim for his head
He most likely just grazed Inahos head.
Even Saazbaum showed Slaine in his last moments that he needs to aim for his head
He most likely just grazed Inahos head.
It's amazing.
Inaho would have been a lot more likeable to me if he wasn't such a blatant Gary Stu and so absurdly efficient at dispatching enemies with vastly greater Kats and experience, thus making every encounter a predictable snoozefest instead of the tense battle it could have been. I know experience generally doesn't count for much in anime and manga, but considering we were told none of Inaho's classmates had seen any combat, I thought it was hilariously bad how good he was from the get-go. Even Saazbaum got punked hard in one of the worst fights I've ever seen.
Then comes Slaine, who's been the show's punching bag up until then, and he caps that stoic shitbird, and rightly so I might add, considering the fact Slaine saved their collective asses a couple of episodes ago, only to be shot down by Inaho and subsequently tortured to near death by Cruhteo.
I think Slaine tried to save Saazbaum out of a sense of conflicted loyalty. He saw Orange, the guy that shot him when he was so close to Asselyum before, which made him an enemy, and he saw Saazbaum, someone who he knew wasn't on the same page and yet had freed him all the same.
Now factor in the fact Slaine wouldn't have any way of knowing the princess was in vicinity, I think it makes enough sense he would at least help Saazbaum take out Orange.
Ultimately, I think #TeamSlaine knows that Slaine will continue to be Urobutcher's punching bag and that he's going to lose out in the end, but if the alternative is to side with Inaho, who I reiterate is the worst protagonist in recent times, then I'm sticking with Slaine-sama.
From this side profile frame it looks like a clean head shot.
This one, not so sure.
A poster from another forum noted that the blood splatter does not match with the head shot.
Since Slaine is able to activate Aldnoah drive perhaps his social status among the martians would go up.
Maybe he's the antagonist for season 2.
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darkside31337
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Whoa hold up. Slaine already won. He's not going to be a punching bag anymore because hes the star of the fucking show. There are no obstacles in his path to greatness now.
Slaine is going to become the new protagonists. He's going to work with the terrans. He's going to nail Inaho's sister as the greatest fuck you of all time.
I would love for this to happen, but given Urobutcher's MO, what's most likely to happen is that Inaho and Asseylum both survive, they hook up, Slaine is heartbroken and ultimately dies, either by Inaho, Asseylum, or in some kind of self-sacrifice twist.
Wiktor
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More likely he will become the villain. No way they will just throw the best thing about the show and turn it into magical mech vs magical mech nonsense. Slaine activating aldhoah drive pretty much ensured his place as villain.
But the best thing about the show is Slaine...
I know the butcher isn't as involved with this as other projects, but it is still very much in the same vein, so you can expect Slaine to wallow in misery throughout the second part of the season.
I wish there was a way I could be spoiled on all of it upfront.
It may be just semantics, but what exactly has Slaine done to make him a villain? There's a good chance he'll become an antagonist, but nothing he's done has made him villainous yet.
It's also very much in the same vein as Ga-Rei Zero which was also written by Katsuhiko Takayama and directed by Ei Aoki. Which Urobuchi had nothing to do with.
Petit Melon
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Watching Inaho get capped made my hate watch worth it. The princess possibly being dead too is the icing on the cake. #TeamSlaine
It's also very much in the same vein as Ga-Rei Zero which was also written by Katsuhiko Takayama and directed by Ei Aoki. Which Urobuchi had nothing to do with.
Tell you what, if you being right means there is a chance for a happy ending for Slaine, then I hope I couldn't be any more wrong.
As much as I'm determined to stay on #TeamSlaine, I can't see a happy ending for him.
Preach!
I'm just saying, regardless of what happens, the director and writer are more likely responsible for all the "twists" and the tone of the show than Urobuchi is. I'm sick of seeing people credit him for everything because he's the only name anyone seems to know.
I'm just saying, regardless of what happens, the director and writer are more likely responsible for all the "twists" and the tone of the show than Urobuchi is. I'm sick of seeing people credit him for everything because he's the only name anyone seems to know.
Well fair enough. I feel the same way about everything that has JJ Abrams' name attached to it.
Wiktor
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Pledged his allegince to martian side. Plus he apparently killed the protagonist and lead hero. At least I hope so. Him flip flopping through another season would be unbearable to watch. Villain is pretty much the only interesting place they could take, regardless if he takes place of protagonist or not.
Wiktor
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It's also very much in the same vein as Ga-Rei Zero which was also written by Katsuhiko Takayama and directed by Ei Aoki. Which Urobuchi had nothing to do with.
Yeah...but as much as I like Aldnoah, its nowhere near the gloriousness of Ga-Rei Zero. That girl actually had a damn good reason to turn into villain, unlike anyone on Aldnoah.
Obejctively speaking, Aldnoah is really flawed with regards to character motivations especially. A lot of the time throughout the series it feels like everyone is just doing things which is required to move the plot forward, rather than something justified by character development.
But the show is just so fun to watch I can't really care too much about that, lol.
The same Martians that saved him in the same episode he killed Inaho, even though he's a Terran? As far as we know, Asseylum was/is still a loyal Martian too, and I don't recall Slaine being particular loyal to any Martian but Asseylum
Inaho shot him down and was indirectly responsible for him being tortured half to death. He had that coming.
I don't doubt Slaine will be an antagonist though, and I'm sure Asseylum is gonna turn on him regardless of their history together, which is likely to be a strong factor in his turning heel.
Wiktor
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Yeah. I don't see him supporting Terrans when Princess is dead. Even when she was alive he couldn't fully go against martians, let alone now. But who knows. Slaine doesn't make any sense.
Well..he sticked up for the side directly responsible for his torture as well as attempts on princesses' life princess. I don't think you should look for a reason behind Slaine's actions. He seems to do whatever the plot requires at the moment.
Propably. He did turned out to be terribly ungreateful to her. Helping her killer and all that. Plus he might have killed Inaho. So if she survived I do expect S2 to end with her putting a bullet into him.
Putting the poor bastard out of his misery will propably be seen as act of compasion anyway.And I don't see any other side for Slaine to take on than to become antagonist. It's not like after killing Inaho he fits into terran side, especially with magical mech. So it's either martian side or he will be outside of the main conflict for S2.
That escalated quickly.
*Sees Seylum die*
Looks like plot armor is demanding a raise . . .
*Sees Inaho die*
and benefits.
I do like that sudden change into a dark reality. Seeing the two most capable protagonists lying in their own blood pools (which brings into doubt whether they'd still survive if the shots weren't immediate kills) is a really sharp change and a tone-setter for the future. This is a war of villains and victims, and the few heroes are as apt to die as anyone else.
*Sees Seylum die*
Looks like plot armor is demanding a raise . . .
*Sees Inaho die*
and benefits.
I do like that sudden change into a dark reality. Seeing the two most capable protagonists lying in their own blood pools (which brings into doubt whether they'd still survive if the shots weren't immediate kills) is a really sharp change and a tone-setter for the future. This is a war of villains and victims, and the few heroes are as apt to die as anyone else.
I think Slaine has always been very much a man without a country. He's a Terran who is a part of the Martian army, but who is loyal really only to Asseylum and will follow her wherever she goes.
I think the Martian that dies in front of Slaine after he was saved by them played into his frame of mind that the Martians aren't necessarily the bad guys. The Terrans, especially Inaho, hadn't given him any cause to believe they were the good guys either.
Cruhteo was loyal to Asseylum though, and Saazbaum was a rebel, so I don't think that's valid. He made a snap decision to help Saazbaum against Orange, someone was definitely his enemy. It wasn't the right choice, but I don't think making bad decisions makes Slaine a bad character. His failures humanise him as much as Inaho's effortless victories make him difficult to relate to or even tolerate.
Propably. He did turned out to be terribly ungreateful to her. Helping her killer and all that. Plus he might have killed Inaho. So if she survived I do expect S2 to end with her putting a bullet into him.
And I don't see any other side for Slaine to take on than to become antagonist. It's not like after killing Inaho he fits into terran side, especially with magical mech. So it's either martian side or he will be outside of the main conflict for S2.
I don't think it was a lack of gratitude for Asseylum that motivated Slaine to attack Inaho, I think was a sense of gratitude to Saazbaum. Slaine was very much conflicted, and obviously deeply regrets his decision to get involved with the fight, so there's that I suppose.
If Slaine does end up being the final villain, which I think has a reasonable chance of happening, I hope at least he gets an actual fight against Inaho because thus far they've all been totally devoid of any tension whatsoever.
Prepare for Eyepatch!Inaho and Cyborg!Asseylum.
I'm expecting pirate Inaho but clone Asseylum actually :3
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Eyepatch actually seems very... likely now.
victreeb3l
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FUCK SLAINE
I read somewhere that he's doing the final 3 too. That should be a rumor though until confirmed.
That's pretty apt I think. I just wonder who's going to be the one to put him down.
victreeb3l
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Most of the episode was fairly sloppy I thought. The first half felt super rushed, but the second half was just damnnnnnnn.
Inko will
Or Rayet cause she had a thing for Inabro. Shes the only other competent pilot left.
Slaine sucks. Dude makes terrible decisions left and right and was the reason the princess got shot in the end by Saazbaum. He should have pointed that gun to his own head. Idiot.
Inko will
Or Rayet cause she had a thing for Inabro. Shes the only other competent pilot left.
Slaine sucks. Dude makes terrible decisions left and right and was the reason the princess got shot in the end by Saazbaum. He should have pointed that gun to his own head. Idiot.
Oh, bold. I could definitely dig that.
Yeah, cause what's more badass that effortlessly defeating all those that stand in your way? Doing it while wearing an eyepatch of course!
Depth perception is for the birds.
Yeah I can see that happening. Not like he has much to write anyway. He's not doing the Gargantia OVAs, he's not doing Psycho-Pass 2, and his Kamen Rider series is over! Lol.
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