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[KrakenIPA]

I love seeing it on my cable-box. It reminds me of the 99c theater with it's SF2 cabinet, 32gal Pepsi for 50c, dude in the back lighting incense to cover up smokin a J, and the double feature w/Aladdin or Ace Ventura.

Good times.

 

[JayK47]

I still watch this movie about once a year. I almost always pass on the sequels. Watching older movies, I "love" counting all of the things that they could not get away with today. Like when he grabs his wife's head to turn it. No no no, you can't do that today.

 

[Kimahri]

Feel free to read the title of this thread. We can chat afterwards.

We can talk when you stop acting like a child.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

Even the ride still holds up. That raptor tearing the screen gets me every time.

 

[Reality Czar]

I still watch this movie about once a year. I almost always pass on the sequels. Watching older movies, I "love" counting all of the things that they could not get away with today. Like when he grabs his wife's head to turn it. No no no, you can't do that today.

Lol Jeff Goldblum is such a creeper, not sure his character could get away with acting like that these days. He is touching Laura Dern super hardcore at one point.

The cast is ridiculously well chosen and well used. I mean, shit. Even the fat guy from Seinfeld gets a memorable death. Samuel Jackson as a computer hacker? "Hold onto your butts" Laura Dern "Woman inherits the Earth" This movie is packed with pulp one liners. The cast is incredible. Lightning in a bottle.

Even the bit characters are grerat. That one hunter dude, Muldoon. "Clever girl" That scene might not look real if you analyze it closely but in the context of the scene, the soundtrack, the framing, all of it makes for an incredible horror moment. That whole sequence with the dismembered arm falling on her in the dark shed. I mean, you can tell those are practical effects, but still, they are so well done.

 

[Chiggs]

We can talk when you stop acting like a child.

Child? Ha, there's basically three of you in this thread pretty much playing out the film fanboy version of this.

And one of them makes up fanciful rules like:

• Oh, you can't use the 4k version to critique the CGI, because it so clearly looks like--WAIT FOR IT---30-year-old CGI, and that would tarnish not only my beloved film, but the flimsy argument I'm trying to make.
• You need to see the 35mm print or equivalent transfer

Holy fuck. Someone ought to drop this goddamn thread in a vat of amber so some rich shithead can clone this utter nonsense to entertain future generations.

General advice:

• Look at the Brachs.
• Then pause for a moment of self-reflection.
• Then read the title of this thread.
• Pause yet again for a moment of self-reflection.
• Acknowledge that all the best shots in JP are ones that are at night or in the shadows.
• Remove your ego.
• Acknowledge the truth: ILM did what they could, but the F/X have aged...and in some scenes, not at all gracefully.
  • There's no need to introduce magical thinking or mythologize the achievement.

I mean, I love Starship Troopers. Love it. But some shots...well, they haven't fared too well.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

It's funny how the CG in this film has outlasted our scientific understanding about how dinosaurs looked in the first place.

 

[Kururu]

Guys, this is a thread about a movie from the early 90s and we're calling each other names over opinions based on A MOVIE FROM THE EARLY 90S!!!!

Let's just chill, take a deep breath, and quit name calling each other over A MOVIE FROM THE EARLY 90S!!!! I've issued a couple of warnings here (just little dino bites on the wrist) but let's not continue blowing up at each other. I want a good, clean fight.

And as far as this mods opinion goes, this movie looks great for being A MOVIE FROM THE EARLY 90S!!!! And actually still looks impressive today.

 

[Vick]

And one of them makes up fanciful rules like:

• Oh, you can't use the 4k version to critique the CGI, because it so clearly looks like--WAIT FOR IT---30-year-old CGI, and that would tarnish not only my beloved film, but the flimsy argument I'm trying to make.
• You need to see the 35mm print or equivalent transfer

Literally in OP:

So not only the Home Video and Netflix releases with their ridiculous color grading made the movie look like a cheap TV product, they also made the film CGI much more dated and fake looking than it actually was.

A couple of posts after:

But you're talking about the UHD.. that's not Jurassic Park, and not what ILM made. Compositing is all screwed up, you see things that were supposed to be in shadows, everything have altered RGB levels, brightness and gamma. No wonder it looks like crap.
No one should judge Jurassic Park based on Home Video releases.

Especially because that "4K" looks worse than was made in '93.

Yes, that crappy looking one is the 4K Blu-Ray.

General advice:

• Look at the Brachs.
• Then pause for a moment of self-reflection.
• Then read the title of this thread.
• Pause yet again for a moment of self-reflection.
• Acknowledge that all the best shots in JP are ones that are at night or in the shadows.
• Remove your ego.
• Acknowledge the truth: ILM did what they could, but the F/X have aged...and in some scenes, not at all gracefully.
  • There's no need to introduce magical thinking or mythologize the achievement.

I mean, I love Starship Troopers. Love it. But some shots...well, they haven't fared too well.

On the Thread title:

I think you misunderstood me, because to me the CG in JP does not even look "very good" if seen in BD or UHD, it looks like crap for today standards. Very dated and low res.

But when seen in 35mm, the intended format and what people saw at the time, it's pretty much impossible to tell when something's digital and when not. That's why i used the word "real".

What people usually mean with "looks real" is that they look practical, that they look "in the scene".

Real:

Fake:

Real:

Fake:

Real:

Fake:

Real:

Fake:

Real:

Fake:

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Fake:

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I should have named the Thread: "Almost 30 years later Jurassic Park CGI still looks real in Chiggs approved sequences"

And let's be fucking real now, you came in this Thread calling me a fanboy, then said my post sucked, then mocked me in creative ways multiple times, called me a massive dork, brain damaged, bothered me in private, then called me an idiot.. and you had the guts of reporting me for that fucking GIF?

You really are a pathetic child. Now go on and report me again.

 

[Shodan09]

So is there no way currently to watch the original version of JP the way ILM intended? It's night and day difference between some of these shots and my blu ray copy.

 

[Kimahri]

Child? Ha, there's basically three of you in this thread pretty much playing out the film fanboy version of this.

And one of them makes up fanciful rules like:

• Oh, you can't use the 4k version to critique the CGI, because it so clearly looks like--WAIT FOR IT---30-year-old CGI, and that would tarnish not only my beloved film, but the flimsy argument I'm trying to make.
• You need to see the 35mm print or equivalent transfer

Holy fuck. Someone ought to drop this goddamn thread in a vat of amber so some rich shithead can clone this utter nonsense to entertain future generations.

General advice:

• Look at the Brachs.
• Then pause for a moment of self-reflection.
• Then read the title of this thread.
• Pause yet again for a moment of self-reflection.
• Acknowledge that all the best shots in JP are ones that are at night or in the shadows.
• Remove your ego.
• Acknowledge the truth: ILM did what they could, but the F/X have aged...and in some scenes, not at all gracefully.
  • There's no need to introduce magical thinking or mythologize the achievement.

I mean, I love Starship Troopers. Love it. But some shots...well, they haven't fared too well.

You don’t understand color grading so there is no point in arguing with you. The whole point isn't that it is real, but that the way it was done back then still looks real. That newer releases with different color grading reveals the imperfections is completely irrelevant to how it looked back then.

If you can't understand that, I can't help you.

 

[Chiggs]

You don’t understand color grading so there is no point in arguing with you. The whole point isn't that it is real, but that the way it was done back then still looks real. That newer releases with different color grading reveals the imperfections is completely irrelevant to how it looked back then.

If you can't understand that, I can't help you.

And if you can't understand the fact that new display technology reveals visible flaws in the VFX, and that new display technology is how pretty much everyone will see the film, well....I'm not quite sure what to say, either. And the attempt to minimize that argument by both you and Vick is completely disingenuous...and ridiculous.

My first post in this thread mentioned the lack of objectivity in JP fanboys, and you've done a great job demonstrating that.

I should have named the Thread: "Almost 30 years later Jurassic Park CGI still looks real in Chiggs approved sequences"

And let's be fucking real now, you came in this Thread calling me a fanboy, then said my post sucked, then mocked me in creative ways multiple times, called me a massive dork, brain damaged, bothered me in private, then called me an idiot.. and you had the guts of reporting me for that fucking GIF?

You really are a pathetic child. Now go on and report me again.

I got flagged, too. And let's face it: you've not been a saint in this thread, either.

Can't take the heat? Then get out of the kitchen...just like the two raptors below need to.

BUT BUT BUT COLOR BANDING! 4K! NOT FAIR! ANALOG VS DIGITAL! YOU'RE NOT A 10-YEAR-OLD IN A DARKLY LIT THEATER, BRIMMING WITH A SENSE OF CHILDLIKE WONDER AT A 35MM PRINT!!!!! YOUR POINTS ARE INVALID!!! I AM VICK! MASTER OF VFX OPINIONS ON NEOGAF!

(like it or not, this is what people are going to see)

 

[Kimahri]

And if you can't understand the fact that new display technology reveals visible flaws in the VFX, and that new display technology is how pretty much everyone will see the film, well....I'm not quite sure what to say, either. And the attempt to minimize that argument by both you and Vick is completely disingenuous...and ridiculous.

My first post in this thread mentioned the lack of objectivity in JP fanboys, and you've done a great job demonstrating that.



I got flagged, too. And let's face it: you've not been a saint in this thread, either.

Can't take the heat? Then get out of the kitchen...just like the two raptors below need to.

BUT BUT BUT COLOR BANDING! 4K! NOT FAIR! ANALOG VS DIGITAL! YOU'RE NOT A 10-YEAR-OLD IN A DARKLY LIT THEATER, BRIMMING WITH A SENSE OF CHILDLIKE WONDER AT A 35MM PRINT!!!!! YOUR POINTS ARE INVALID!!! I AM VICK! MASTER OF VFX OPINIONS ON NEOGAF!

(like it or not, this is what people are going to see)

We're talking about different things. Vick and I are talking about the original theatrical version, you're talking about the more recent blu ray and 4k editions which I have no problem agreeing look very dated, and color grading is the main reason why. There are multiple versions of JP being released over the years, all look very different from each other, and there are plenty of comparisons out there that show the differences.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here , really. No one is saying JP on uhd looks real, yet that is the argument you keep pushing against.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I'm just super impressed there are so many people who have figured out that these aren't actually real dinosaurs. Bravo, geniuses! You certainly aren't fooled by 30 year old effects into thinking that unreal creatures existed in real life and were filmed on set with famous actors.

Whaaa? How do you explain this, then??

 

[Reality Czar]