Zaraki_Kenpachi
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And going through the summer deals for kindle, there are two books I bought a couple weeks ago but haven't read yet that are on sale. :lol Figures with my luck!
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Amazon Kindle |OT| of eInk superiority
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Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
I'm sorry, but I don't understand the question. When I tried to highlight a sentence, only the first and last word were highlighted. Does this help?
"Hopping" would be the perfect way to describe how the highlighting on the new Nook looked.
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Maybe Amazon will pricematch?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Help Me! said:
Didn't realize you were talking about the new nook, I got confused. Sorry about that! And no they won't pricematch since they only do returns within 7 days and it's been like 2 weeks. It's only couple bucks but just funny that when I finally caved and bought some early to have them on the device those are the ones on sale.
I just got a new nook (I've accepted the fact that I'm a gadget whore) and so far I love it. The reduced form factor and crazy light weight are like a whole new reading experience for me.
But to answer your question, nope, the only difference in the actual book reading experience is the refresh rate. However, the magazine/newspaper reading experience is vastly improved by the touch screen. It's like night and day. I only read books on my reader though so its a moot point for me. I'm more about the new form and reduced weight personally.
I'm extremely jealous of Amazon's CS and returns policy though. I think BN makes you pay $30 for the same kind of service for 2 years. I've got 2 weeks to decide if I want it... Bleh, can't make up my mind.
I just tried it out and I didn't have any trouble at all. It's as intuitive as text selection on an iPad, and I was able to select the desired text right away without any jumpiness. Maybe there was something glitchy about the model you were testing on.Help Me! said:
The touch isn't about trying be more like an iPhone or playing around menus so much as it is about eliminating the keyboard, uncluttering the face, and reducing the weight. All you have is what you need: text. Kinda like a book.womp said:
New interface is all that ever changes with these devices. From Kindle 1 to 2 to 3 to Nook to Kobo to Sony, e-ink tech is largely unchanged for years, so new hardware updates the UI instead. And that's all we consumers really can compare from one device to the next. None of them have any differences that are remotely 'drastic'. Once you've seen one you've seen them all.manics said:
But to answer your question, nope, the only difference in the actual book reading experience is the refresh rate. However, the magazine/newspaper reading experience is vastly improved by the touch screen. It's like night and day. I only read books on my reader though so its a moot point for me. I'm more about the new form and reduced weight personally.
I'm extremely jealous of Amazon's CS and returns policy though. I think BN makes you pay $30 for the same kind of service for 2 years. I've got 2 weeks to decide if I want it... Bleh, can't make up my mind.
TheChewyWaffles
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Anyone have an idea about what's going to happen to the Kindle app on the iOS platforms? It's the main thing I do on those platforms besides texting and phone calls.
TheChewyWaffles
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Kindle is the only way to go 
I know your pain. E-ink is the same and will provide largely the same reading experience on just about every device. So it comes down to weighing all the tiny little differences against each other. And they're so minimal it's hard to decide which to give a crap about. I went through the same thing a couple years ago when I decided on my first Nook.Help Me! said:
What ended up pushing me that way was having physical stores around where you can go in with a nook and peruse their entire ebook library for free. Didn't have anything to do with how I read my books. And the best part is after 2 years and 2 Nooks, I've still never used that feature. :lol
Reading is reading. Even if Amazon puts out a Kindle 4 next year I don't think I'd upgrade unless something was wrong with my Kindle 3. Touchscreen might be nice but not something that would make me upgrade. Color e-ink? Maybe but really I don't read magazines or comics so even that would be a waste.
Went back to Target to futz around with the Kindle again. I think I like it better than the Nook, but no touch screen kinda sucks for navigating footnotes, chapters, etc. I'm not getting an e-reader until next month, so I guess I have time to decide.
I like Amazon better than B&N-- maybe that's the answer.
I like Amazon better than B&N-- maybe that's the answer.
Help Me! said:
Here's a pretty good review.
http://www.marco.org/2011/06/03/nook-simple-touch-review
The bottom line was that he liked the Nook hardware more, but preferred the Amazon ecosystem. I think that's a pretty fair assessment, though, as someone else pointed out before, Calibre can be a great friend.
VistraNorrez
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You might be better off going with a better ecosystem. Hardware is changing pretty often now and getting cheaper even faster.
Yep. That's why I got a Kindle. Of course I like the device, but hardware/UI is always subject to change. The "platform" was the bigger choice for me.Help Me! said:
Though it's worth noting that my e-reader usage is pretty simple. I've never really cared about stuff like ePub or annotations and whatnot. Just need the eInk screen and decent prices for novels.
VistraNorrez said:
Fjordson said:
Good points. I guess I just trust Amazon more. Plus, I like the Kindle a smidge better. I hope Father's Day brings a price cut.
Sorry for the bump/edit, but I have a quick question about conversion software:
When converting from Mobi to ePub to LIT, does the layout, structure, etc. change in anyway by converting the text to a new format? Does the process fuck it up in any way?
Thanks!
Carlisle said:
I don't have an issue with the Keyboard however I could do without it, but I certainly prefer the D-Pad over the touch screen for as often as I will be using the device to do other things than actually read, as you said - Text.
Carlisle said:
And to think when I mentioned Amazon's CS being a reason behind choosing the device, I was sarcastically quoted to a few posts above. :::rollseyes:::
I have the Nook, Nook Color and Kindle 3 in my surrounding family, they are all great for their own reasons. The fact the choice is so hard and there are options for everyone's personal outlook is IMO the greatest part of all this.
For me? I have been an Amazon customer for 13 years and they are probably my favorite 'store' to shop at so to me it was a no brainer. I think their eBook store is much better as well - Selection and prices, AND under the same account my other online purchases.
My wife reads her Nook Color while I read my Kindle 3. The only thing that seriously makes me jealous is how she can read it easier in the dark/in bed at night. Sure I have that little LED on my leather case but...It just isn't the same.
Honestly there are days where I would love to switch between the two for different reasons.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Has anyone read The Paradise War: Book One in The Song of Albion Trilogy? I'm wondering if I should get it while it's on sale.
And is The Gathering Storm by Churchill good?
And is The Gathering Storm by Churchill good?
JoshuaJSlone
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I grabbed it when it was temporarily free a while back. Seems pretty popular, but I didn't get into it enough to read the later books. Starts off with a combination of myth and reality, but seems to completely drop the reality along the way.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
HiroProtagonist
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Downloaded Moby Dick from Project Gutenberg as Mobi:Help Me! said:Good points. I guess I just trust Amazon more. Plus, I like the Kindle a smidge better. I hope Father's Day brings a price cut.
Sorry for the bump/edit, but I have a quick question about conversion software:
When converting from Mobi to ePub to LIT, does the layout, structure, etc. change in anyway by converting the text to a new format? Does the process fuck it up in any way?
Thanks!
Moby Dick in Mobi format
Fetched Metadata in calibre - with no other editing.
Converted MOBI to EPUB:
Moby Dick in EPUB format
Converted EPUB to lit:
Moby Dick in LIT format
I'm not sure why you'd want to end with a .lit file. They are not well supported, and take twice as long to convert.
outunderthestars
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Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Manics said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001N2N984/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This one?
Anyone recommend any books that are on sale?
Amen.womp said:
I hear you. My fiancee reads on her Nook Color while I read on my e-ink Nook. At night I have my crappy little clamp-on light to read while hers is in full backlit glory. However, the other day we did a bit of outdoor reading and I could barely see her screen at all while mine was as clear as the blue sky we were sitting underwomp said:
Goes both ways. Sadly, most of our reading is done at night in bed so she wins Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Ah, my bad.Manics said:
Carlisle said:I hear you. My fiancee reads on her Nook Color while I read on my e-ink Nook. At night I have my crappy little clamp-on light to read while hers is in full backlit glory. However, the other day we did a bit of outdoor reading and I could barely see her screen at all while mine was as clear as the blue sky we were sitting under
At night I use my ipad; on the go/outside, I use my nook. Thankfully, they sync up automatically so it's no big deal to go between devices.
VistraNorrez
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Maybe I'm the weird one but I have no desire to have a backlight reading device. I'm perfectly happy keeping a lamp on or using a book light before I go to bed. I hate staring into an LCD screen, a foot and a half from my face, in an otherwise completely dark room. For whatever reason my eyes don't want to blink and they feel all fucked up after a while.
VistraNorrez said:
I like the lighted case on my Kindle and agree with your LCD backlit opinion but if they could somehow make a backlit e-ink screen I'd be all for it. No idea how they'd do it but that's why I'm not an engineer. Maybe even have LEDs on the side shining on the screen but they'd have to do that without making the LEDs have line of sight with your eyes.
VistraNorrez
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Charles Bukowski's Ham on Rye is $4.99 (US only I'm sure) in both the Kindle and Nook stores (I know there are a lot of Nook people in this thread). HarperCollins is one of the few big publishers that does deals on their books every once and a while.
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VistraNorrez said:
The leather case with attached front light is godly.
http://www.marco.org/2011/06/03/nook-simple-touch-review
A thorough comparison between the nook and the kindle. Bottom line is that while nook has better hardware, kindle has the better ecosystem and services.
A thorough comparison between the nook and the kindle. Bottom line is that while nook has better hardware, kindle has the better ecosystem and services.
Musan said:
Yeah, I posted that review a couple of posts up above
I'm guessing the lack of the amazon ecosystem will be less of a drawback for would-be Nook purchasers now that the Nook has been rooted and able to run Android apps. Can't be long before it is running the Kindle program, which would give Nook users the best of both worlds.
commish said:Yeah, I posted that review a couple of posts up above
I'm guessing the lack of the amazon ecosystem will be less of a drawback for would-be Nook purchasers now that the Nook has been rooted and able to run Android apps. Can't be long before it is running the Kindle program, which would give Nook users the best of both worlds.
The e-ink Nook is rooted?
VistraNorrez
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Yay more Nook talk in the Kindle thread.
It will not give you the best of both worlds. A major part of what makes Kindle CS so great is how well they respond to problems with the hardware.
commish said:
It will not give you the best of both worlds. A major part of what makes Kindle CS so great is how well they respond to problems with the hardware.
VistraNorrez said:
Isn't the Kindle app part of the Kindle thread? Seems to make sense that we could discuss other hardware that can (or could possibly) run the Kindle software. It's also pretty common to discuss competitors of products in threads about a product. Many people come into these types of threads looking for buying advice, so it's pretty strange to lament Nook talk in a Kindle thread. I could see if there was some new Kindle news or something...
Amazon's CS is great, no doubt about that. They've come through for me time and again over the years. As I've stated before, though, I'd rather have the superior hardware than "superior" customer service in the rare event that I receive a defective unit.