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Amazon Kindle |OT| of eInk superiority
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antiquegamer
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I thought I would miss the physical button but the touch screen on Paperwhite is great and the touch area is large and very responsive. I play with the Nook while the bezel is bigger, and comfortable with holding it with two hand, Paperwhite is much easier to just grip with single hand and just. It also easy to fit into pocket of jacket or even the back of my jean.
However the thing that it have over the Nook is the screen, if you guys get annoyed by the uneven light and shadow on the bottom of Paperwhite you would go nut with the way the Nook light up the screen.
Been using my Paperwhite for a few days, replacing my kindle keyboard. mostly really happy with it but i do think the uneven lighting near the bottom is distracting. I thought the entire screen would be perfectly illuminated and even, but it's not. I've been reading reports on ebook sites of people sending theirs back by the droves to get replacements... while some may get better units, for the most part I believe this is just a flaw in the design.
It's a good product but doesn't quite live up to the name "paperwhite" if you ask me. Maybe "Paperwhite... except the bottom, which looks kinda warped and weird"
The screen *feels* like paper which I'm sure is intentional. Not smooth like glass on a tablet or phone. The touch is very responsive though, just as much as my iphone (though when typing you can definitely notice the refresh delay, but that is still expected)
I also have the official amazon leather case (pics on previous page of this thread) and I love it. You can fold the cover behind it just like a paperback book. It's great. I also have the official leather case for my kindle keyboard (the one with the built-in lamp arm that hides in the top). This one is much thinner and lighter when the device is inside. Also a bit smaller.
Hopes for next kindle upgrade: more storage (they dropped it down to 2GB this time, wasn't it 4 at one time?), more improvements to the light tech, and hopefully in the not-to-distant-future.. color and faster refresh for things like video. it may sound nuts now, but i think things are heading that way for these devices.
It's a good product but doesn't quite live up to the name "paperwhite" if you ask me. Maybe "Paperwhite... except the bottom, which looks kinda warped and weird"
The screen *feels* like paper which I'm sure is intentional. Not smooth like glass on a tablet or phone. The touch is very responsive though, just as much as my iphone (though when typing you can definitely notice the refresh delay, but that is still expected)
I also have the official amazon leather case (pics on previous page of this thread) and I love it. You can fold the cover behind it just like a paperback book. It's great. I also have the official leather case for my kindle keyboard (the one with the built-in lamp arm that hides in the top). This one is much thinner and lighter when the device is inside. Also a bit smaller.
Hopes for next kindle upgrade: more storage (they dropped it down to 2GB this time, wasn't it 4 at one time?), more improvements to the light tech, and hopefully in the not-to-distant-future.. color and faster refresh for things like video. it may sound nuts now, but i think things are heading that way for these devices.
that sounds so dirty... I love it.
haha I tried wording that so many different ways so it wouldn't sound dirty and just gave up
Like the hat?
Banned
part of my order is arriving two weeks earlier than originally stated!
it's the case! D:
it's the case! D:
Vyse The Legend
Member
Playing a premium on eBay. They don't sell them in brick and mortar stores yet, so right now, Amazon is the only source.
HiroProtagonist
Member
PushingButtons
Member
Am I missing something? Or can you not lend a book from within the Kindle? It's a tad annoying having to go through the Amazon website to lend.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Thanks for the heads up, it's up for pre-order in the UK, too. £109 over here which is +£20 on the US price after tax. Bloody hell.
Also looks like we finally get the Lending Library, although I didn't realise it's only one book a month which is a bit shit.
That said, WHYYY couldn't Amazon have just announced it was coming to the UK. I've already ordered mine from Amazon.com, picking it up next week when I'm over there.
Dead Prince
Banned
cross region lending? I guess if the book is in both region.
no ads though, I think the US version is $29 more for no ads?
And the lending library is a bit limited. UK already has good ebooks, and the sony reader is almost worth me buying just for integrated UK overdrive library access. I'm also not buying a prime membership just for that. Needs lovefilm access added to it.
Finally here in Italy too we can pre-order it, same price:
129 for the standard version, 189 for the 3G version, covers are 34,99
i've preordered a standard version, the covers are too pricey and i'll wait for the third-party support
You're first presented with a full page screen. Then as you page turn you see the individual panels. You can disable panel view so you only see full pages.
What the hell is going on in that comic?
wakajawaka
Member
So my dad called me because his Kindle Keyboard was doing "weird things".
After talking with him for a while and browsing the interwebs I get to the problem, the thing was updating to the new 3.4 firmware and a) it failed because it is jailbroken (I did it to put the menus on Spanish) or b) The wi-fi failed mid-update.
The problem is that the device is constantly trying to finish the update. Fixing these things by phone is a pain in the ass, and I dunno what to tell him besides rebooting the device, what does not work.
Anyone halp?
After talking with him for a while and browsing the interwebs I get to the problem, the thing was updating to the new 3.4 firmware and a) it failed because it is jailbroken (I did it to put the menus on Spanish) or b) The wi-fi failed mid-update.
The problem is that the device is constantly trying to finish the update. Fixing these things by phone is a pain in the ass, and I dunno what to tell him besides rebooting the device, what does not work.
Anyone halp?
Maklershed
Member
Is anyone else having a problem with their Paperwhite of tapping the screen to turn the page and it jumps ahead a bunch of pages? Its happening to me so often that now I watch my location when I turn to page to make sure I don't miss anything.
So I bought the new entry-level Kindle after losing my keyboard model in transit at some point. I think I dun goofed. The build quality feels really cheap compared to the keyboard, cheap plastic and the buttons don't have the same tactility. Also, now I see Amazon have announced the Paperwhite for the UK today... I have reservations about using a touch screen rather than those convenient buttons on the side for page-turning, but it's probably still way better than this. FML.
/rant
/rant
It's fine - it's using a negligible amount of power when in screensaver mode. I don't think I have ever powered either of the ones I have had off.
it doesn't power off. my understanding is that the screen only uses power when it refreshes
Excellent, thanks both of you. Amazing tech these things are, can't believe it took me so long.
chickdigger802
Banned
Weird, amazon actually did post about all the 'faults' of the pw
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.ht...d_t=201&pf_rd_p=1404554782&pf_rd_i=B007OZNZG0
I mean... good on them?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.ht...d_t=201&pf_rd_p=1404554782&pf_rd_i=B007OZNZG0
I mean... good on them?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
They shouldn't have advertised it as perfect in the first place.
Removing the headphone jack and halving the memory were cost-cutting moves. I think the Paperwhite should still have audiobooks options. Saying 'get a Kindle Fire' isn't a solution as reading on an LCD is less than ideal.
I feel like every year Amazon remove more and more features and don't put some of that money back in to the product. The menus etc are still horrifically slow on the Paperwhite, for example.
I've had this happen to me a couple of times.
VistraNorrez
Member
I'm very happy with menu responsiveness, especially coming from a Kindle 2. No way is it horrific. It does exactly what it needs to do when I need it done.
The new screen was the new investment in the product, it's absurd to say they don't put money back into the product.
And saying they should have audio capabilities in the breath as extolling the screen is silly. Are you looking or listening? I would like to have audio, more features are nice, but I can't say I miss it. I rarely used it and I don't do audiobooks much. I could see Amazon crunching the numbers and realizing the feature isn't worth the cost.
It was cost-cutting as the screen manufacturing is probably very low yield since nobody has done anything like this previously. This is the type of stuff that will likely return in future models as costs come down but wasn't adding enough to the core experience.
I'm not sure what you want with the menus though, this is still eInk. It's not like people aren't working on it both at Amazon and the e-Ink corporation who provides the display tech.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
To elaborate: you can read the PDF's on the Kindle in the method you describe, but the screen is too small to display the entire thing and there aren't any good zoom options (unless they added that in the PW). So you'll be looking at cutoffs and imperfect resolutions, because PDF's don't support text reflow.
Indeed. Now if you are willing to copy/paste cases from Westlaw/Lexis into say text or word files which can reflow, it could be an excellent reader.
upload the pdf to google docs and it can convert it to html format. it works well unless the pdf is handwritten. anything that it cannot convert it just becomes a jpeg. from google docs email as attachment to you kindle. kindle converts that to mobi format and you can adjust fonts and everything just like a regular ebook.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
It depends on how image-based the PDF's are. If they're mostly text, they'll convert or be easier to read.
I'd say find a friend who already has one, or buy it and return it if it's not working for you. It's hard to explain how it works, and it might work really well for your usecase.
outunderthestars
Banned
Magic For Beginners is a great book!
chickdigger802
Banned
Any of y'all find a good one hand position?
Been holding it normally with my right hand and rolling my thumb over the bezel to turn tr page.
It's a bit weird because I usually hold past kindles with my right hand.
I do wish you could customize the touch zones.
Been holding it normally with my right hand and rolling my thumb over the bezel to turn tr page.
It's a bit weird because I usually hold past kindles with my right hand.
I do wish you could customize the touch zones.
ChoklitReign
Member
This is a stupid question, but how do you guys stop from losing your Kindles? I have now lost 3 Kindles and need a surefire tactic from losing it again. If I protect it with a password and write my contact info on the back, is there a very high chance someone will return it?
Dead Prince
Banned
Get a Wrist strap
leroy hacker
Member
How do you stop yourself from losing any of your other possessions?