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AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta Drivers and Never Settle Bundle available now

AMD's Holiday Plans: Catalyst 12.11 Performance Driver & New Holiday Game Bundle

AnandTech Analysis
AMD Catalyst™ Software Suite Version 12.11 Beta Release Notes
Version 12.11 Beta Download Page

Sapphire 3GB 7950 with Never Settle Bundle for $269.99 (after $20 rebate) at Newegg


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At 1920x1200 we’re seeing a roughly 5% across the board performance improvement for both the 7970 and the 7950. Everything except Starcraft II sees at least a marginal improvement here, with Starcraft II being the lone exception due to the previous issues we’ve run into with the 1.5 patch. The 7770 also sees some gains here but they aren’t quite as great as with AMD’s other cards; the average gain is just 4% at 1680x1050, with gains in individual games being shallower on the 7770 than they are on other cards.

Interestingly even on the 7970 the largest gains are at 1920x1200 and not 2560x1600. The latter is the more GPU-limited resolution and that’s where we’d typically expect to see the largest gains, but that’s not what’s happening here. Most likely AMD’s performance improvements are targeting shading/texturing performance rather than ROP/memory performance, in which case the highest resolutions where we’re already more likely to be ROP/memory bound would be the resolutions least likely to benefit. This isn’t necessarily the best outcome since it’s at the highest resolutions that we need the greatest performance, but since most gamers are still on 1920x1080 (even with cards like the 7970) this is admittedly a more useful outcome.

Meanwhile like most major performance drivers, even when performance is up across the board the biggest gains are seen in a handful of games, and Catalyst 12.11 is no exception. Among the games in our test suite, DiRT 3, Shogun 2, and Battlefield 3 see the greatest improvements, with the former two picking up 6-7% each.

But it’s Battlefield 3 that really takes the cake: the performance improvement from Catalyst 12.11 ranges from 13% for the 7770 at 1680 to a whopping 29% for the 7970 at 1920. This makes Catalyst 12.11 a very special driver for AMD – not only are performance improvements over 20% particularly rare, but Battlefield 3 has long been a thorn in AMD’s side. NVIDIA’s hardware has until now always outperformed AMD’s equivalent hardware here, and as BF3 has remained an extremely popular MP game it’s been one of the most important games for high-end video card buyers. In other words it has always been the game AMD could least afford to lose at.

With the 12.11 drivers AMD has completely eradicated their performance defecit in BF3, with the 7970, 7870, and 7770 being made performance competitive with (if not a hair faster than) their respective NVIDIA GTX 600 counterparts in our BF3 benchmark. AMD has told us that the specific performance benefits are map-dependent with our results appearing at the high-end of their guidance, so while not every map will see the same 20%+ performance gains, some of them will while others will be in the 10% range. Much like our overall performance averages, the largest gains are at 1920 with FXAA, while 2560 with FXAA and 1920 with MSAA will see smaller gains, once again hinting that AMD’s optimizations are on the shader/texture side rather than ROP/memory.

For our part we have long theorized that the Frostbite 2 engine’s heavy use of deferred rendering techniques – particularly its massive G-buffer – was the factor that AMD was struggling with. While these results don’t really further validate or invalidate that theory, what is clear is that AMD has fixed their Frostbite 2 performance problem. Given the fact that Frostbite 2 will be used in at least a couple more games, including the AMD Gaming Evolved title Medal of Honor Warfighter, this was an important engine for AMD to finally conquer.

For their part, AMD hasn’t told us much about what it is they’ve done to optimize their drivers. What we do know is that it’s not driver command lists (an optional DX11 feature that NV has supported for some time), so it has to be something else. AMD has briefly mentioned surface mapping and memory mapping optimizations, but it’s not clear what exactly they’ve done there and if those are the only optimizations.

Finally, these seem to be clean optimizations, as image quality has been held constant in most of our games (e.g.: Battlefield 3). The sole exception is Skyrim, and this is something we’re certain is an unrelated bug. On our 7970 we appear to be missing a lighting pass, but only on our 7970. On our 7870 with the same exact settings everything is being rendered correctly. AMD has told us that they haven’t seen this issue in-house (it would admittedly be hard to miss) so this may be some esoteric issue; due to the short preview window and our own testing time constraints AMD hasn’t had time to look into it further.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/22/amd-never-settle-bundle-gives-radeon-hd-7000-buyers-free-games/

The 7950 cards are currently ranging from $304.99 to $329.99 before rebates on Newegg
Just about anyone who has bought more than one aftermarket graphics card knows that bundled games rarely matter. They're usually year-old titles or neutered editions built only to showcase the GPU's performance for a few hours. AMD thinks its Never Settle bundle might finally get us to notice. Buy any modern Radeon HD video card from the 7770 GHz Edition on up and you'll get a download code for at least one new game you'd genuinely want to try, ranging from Far Cry 3 on basic cards to a full three-game deal that supplies Far Cry 3, Hitman: Absolution and Sleeping Dogs to high rollers buying the 7900 series. There's likewise a discount for Medal of Honor: Warfighter and promises of bundles in 2013 for Bioshock Infinite and the reimagined Tomb Raider. As long as you're not dead set on springing for a GeForce board in the next few months, one of the qualifying cards might be worth a look to jumpstart your game collection.
 

Exuro

Member
Well shoot maybe I should go amd instead of looking for a used nvidia card to replace my 260. At the same time I could just wait any get those games individually for like $10 down the road and try to get the card I want instead.
 

Antiochus

Member
Considering recent.....sobering, news of the AMD's corporate catastrophes nearing to self annihilation, this is one of the last if not the last marketing ploy we'll see from AMDd as we currently know it.

In other words, jump on it before its too late.
 
From Anandtech article:

AMD hasn’t set a hard date on when the bundle will go live, and since their marketing department is typically ahead of their promotions department by a week or two we’d expect to see these bundles finally become active in November.

No dates set for when we should start seeing this bundle go live. They've pretty much just killed their sales for the next couple weeks if this doesn't go live quickly, though.
 

Bear

Member
I'm planning to get a 660 ti at the next good sale (probably Black Friday/Boxing Day) but this is tempting. I'm leaning towards Nvidia for PhysX and driver support, but I'm happy with my laptop's AMD card (6990m) and I definitely want at least two of those games.

The 7950 generally outperforms the 660 ti for games that aren't optimized for Nvidia cards, doesn't it?
 

haikira

Member
Hope retailers in the UK, do this bundle. Actually just had my GTX 580 burn out on me the other day, and i'm currently using a 5750 from my media pc, in the meantime.

Was eyeing up the 7870 as a possibility, so this would be awesome for me. Also, as someone who likes their BF3, the large improvement gained from the new drivers, helps sweeten the deal for me.

The only game it's missing in the bundle, is sleeping dogs, which is the only game in the list i own. So also perfect.

EDIT: Oh my bad. It's also missing Hitman. Still nice though.
 

Edgeward

Member
Welp, that settles it for me. Was looking for a new card soon and was already eyeing a 7950, will keep an eye out for it
 
Kind of weird seeing Crysis 1 on benchmarks still. That game is so un-optimized that it really adds nothing to the benchmarks. Some of those other games look far better, and still run better too. Also, I assume Batman is Arkham City?
 

Putty

Member
Good stuff. Picked up a 7950 a month ago and am very happy with its performance. Heavily modded Skyrim is just an amazing experience at 1920 and Crysis 2 with Maldo's 4.0 texture pack looks fantastic, and runs exceptionally well at 1920. Witcher 2 you can max out with the exception of Über Sampling. Sleeping Dogs which came bundled also runs like a dream @1920, especially nice with the HD textures. I paid 240 for my card (MSI Frozr V2 3Gig version) in the UK. As someone earlier said, I think the 7950 is bang for buck the best available. I've not picked BF3 up yet but nice to know these new drivers showing hefty performance improvements.
 

Piggus

Member
God dammit, I just bought a 7970. :/ Maybe I can still request to get those games. Got Sleeping Dogs for free which was nice at least.

And holy shit at that Battlefield 3 jump. I just started getting back into BF3 so that's awesome news!
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I'm curious if Nvidia will respond with something. They don't have shit for bundles right now.

Has Nvidia bundled a non-hardware-enabled PhysX game since the Ageia buyout? All that springs to mind over the past couple of years is Batman: Arkham City and Borderlands 2, both of which support hardware-accelerated PhysX.
 
Has Nvidia bundled a non-hardware-enabled PhysX game since the Ageia buyout? All that springs to mind over the past couple of years is Batman: Arkham City and Borderlands 2, both of which support hardware-accelerated PhysX.

Nvidia usually lets their OEMs bundle what they want. I wonder if Nvidia will counter-bundle for the holidays, or just lower prices across the board and let people buy whatever game they want with the saved money. Then again, they might do nothing. Nvidia has been doing just fine costing more than AMD so far.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Nvidia usually lets their OEMs bundle what they want. I wonder if Nvidia will counter-bundle for the holidays, or just lower prices across the board and let people buy whatever game they want with the saved money. Then again, they might do nothing. Nvidia has been doing just fine costing more than AMD so far.

Sure, but I'm referring to official promotions/bundles. Company-specific bundles seem to be rather rare these days.
 

vazel

Banned
I'm due for an upgrade so this is very tempting but I know I'll regret it. Radeon cards have given me too many troubles. Plus I'll lose the robust functionality of nvidia inspector.
 
I'd like to get a really good graphics card to upgrade from my 5770. I'd probably need to upgrade more than just my GPU, though. :S
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Nothing new in GPU graph land.

As said before the 7850 and 7950 are fantastic value, so this is good news.

If you care about any of those games anyway.
 

Sethos

Banned
What's misleading? You're supposed to read labels on the axes. And 6-9% performance gains with a driver update sounds pretty great to me.

It's about visual impression and by that standard, it's as misleading as it gets.

Oldest trick in the book.
 

Ledsen

Member
What's misleading? You're supposed to read labels on the axes. And 6-9% performance gains with a driver update sounds pretty great to me.

It's misleading because of how it looks, regardless of what the labels say. Why do you think it starts at 90% instead of at 0%?
 

Phinor

Member
I wonder if any of that BF3 gain applies to older cards too. Might finally make the game playable with my 6970 not to mention the 6870 we have on the other machine. I guess we'll see when the drivers are released/leaked.

edit: Well damn, guru3d reports the following: "The optimizations are for the GCN architecture based products only meaning Radeon 7000, the Radeon 6000 series will not benefit from the performance tweaks." I guess I'm going Geforce the next time around to avoid stuff like this. Another quote from the same article: "We tried and tesed, but a Radeon 6000 series card does not show any performance increases."
 

derExperte

Member
Fuck the cards when will that driver be availabale

Later today. Though there seems to be a bug with BF3 that can lead to severe glitches once in a while that AMD is working on right now. So maybe the release of the beta will get delayed.

It's misleading because of how it looks, regardless of what the labels say. Why do you think it starts at 90% instead of at 0%?

Because it would be hard to see the differences in a small picture. And sorry but if someone gets mislead by this in 2012 it's their own fault. nV, AMD and others are doing this since forever. Here the gains are at least respectable, there are charts like this with 1% changes.
 

Dennis

Banned
Great bundle - too bad it comes with an AMD card ahahahahahahahaha!

Yeah, and you gotta love GPU chartzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
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