AMD only made $462 million off of "Gaming". Console sales must be terrible.

Ronin_7 said:
PlayStation is doing very well.

All the rest has collapsed from AMD.

Xbox - Dead
Steam Deck - Irrelevant
Discrete GPUs - Dead
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I'd say:
PlayStation - last year PS5 had its peak, so it's normal to have a decrease YoY here
Discrete GPUs - may have had a decrease too
Xbox - decreased even further not only for having passed its peak, almost dead
Steam Deck - Irrelevant
 
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TBiddy said:
It's a very large drop in sales, so I'd say it's a collapse.

I'll ask again - How large a drop would it have to be for you to agree to call it a collapse? 80%? 100%?
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ok since you insist to know my answer.

ill say 80, so what now?
 
There's just not that much of a reason yet to have these consoles. PS5 has games but it doesn't have the same kinds of exclusive bangers that PS4 had by this point in the lifecycle. GTA will change things but remember Black Ops just came out and it's still available on PS4. Most of the huge evergreen games are still available on PS4.
 
yurinka said:
I'd say:
PlayStation - last year PS5 had its peak, so it's normal to have a decrease YoY here
Discrete GPUs - may have had a decrease too
Xbox - decreased even further not only for having passed its peak, almost dead
Steam Deck - Irrelevant
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Can't speak on Steam Deck, but the rest? Spot on.
 
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Pretend for a moment that all the Gaming went to Sony.
462 million dollars / 70 million PS5's.
Is only 6 dollars a CPU.
Is my math correct here? That can't be selling CPU's for that low a price can they?
 
HeWhoWalks said:
Can't speak on Steam Deck, but the rest? Spot on.
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Apparently Steam Deck sold around 3.3M untis LTD. Not this quarter, but since launch.

Magic Carpet said:
Pretend for a moment that all the Gaming went to Sony.
462 million dollars / 70 million PS5's.
Is only 6 dollars a CPU.
Is my math correct here? That can't be selling CPU's for that low a price can they?
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Yes, the math is wrong because AMD made 462M this quarter, not since the PS5 launch. They didn't sell 70M PS5s this quarter.

I have no idea on the amount of money AMD makes from each PS5 sold. I'd say probably around >$200. Apparently they sell the console at a loss, and I'd bet maybe around half of the cost of the console may be AMD's APU.
 
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lh032 said:
sorry, im not as smart as your "collapsing" math here.
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Which part is confusing you?

Ronin_7 is claiming Xbox sales have collapsed. I think the PS5 sales have collapsed as well. You challenged that, and I asked for your definition. You said 80% drop, which means none of the consoles have suffered a collapse in sales, in your eyes.
 
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Topher said:
It isn't really though. We know both AMD and Microsoft are bringing more hardware to the table. That's not a hope. Just a fact.
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AMD has been killed by Nvidia in the GPU space and there's no coming back.

Xbox? Maybe lol highly unlikely.
 
TBiddy said:
Which part is confusing you?

Ronin_7 is claiming Xbox sales have collapsed. I think the PS5 sales have collapsed as well. You challenged that, and I asked for your definition. You said 80% drop, which means none of the consoles have suffered a collapse in sales, in your eyes.
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Ronin_7 said:
AMD has been killed by Nvidia in the GPU space and there's no coming back.

Xbox? Maybe lol highly unlikely.
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AMD has been dominated by Nvidia in the GPU for years. This isn't new. I mean.....you may end up being correct at some point, but if they are still releasing hardware then they are not "done".
 
Magic Carpet said:
Ah it's a quarter. So 6*4*4 years of sales is 96 dollars per chip.
less if you add in all the chips from Xbox and others.
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Consider that console sales aren't the same each quarter: most of the console sales of a year aren't made in this quarter, but in the Christmas quarter instead.

Same goes with the years: the yearly sales of a console make a curve: start small and keep growing until reaching a peak somewhere between their 2nd-5th fiscal year. And then after it they keep decreasing every year. PS5, Xbox Series and Switch are in that later half of their sales cycle, so it's normal for them to have YoY decreases. Particularly for PS and XB because they had their peak last year, a period where they were also recovering from the shortages period. So it's even more normal for them to have a YoY decrease.
 
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yurinka said:
Apparently Steam Deck sold around 3.3M untis LTD. Not this quarter, but since launch.
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Apparently something you said has ruffled some feathers as all they're doing is posting laugh emojis without a single reply.

Must have said something ….. spot on. 😉
 
HeWhoWalks said:
Apparently something you said has ruffled some feathers as all they're doing is posting laugh emojis without a single reply.

Must have said something ….. spot on. 😉
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Sometimes the truth hurts, and when butthurted some people sometimes reacts in weird ways, like putting laugh emojis.
 
SlimySnake said:
holy crap. thats worse than i thought.

good job herman. keep porting shit to PC.
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You're seeing this the wrong way.

Console sales were going to collapse and anybody who had been paying the slightest attention could have foreseen this.

Herman's mistake was not going all in on PC. Day one releases, Sony games that cater to PC gamers etc. Things are slowly heading that way regardless.
 
MarV0 said:
You're seeing this the wrong way.

Console sales were going to collapse and anybody who had been paying the slightest attention could have foreseen this.

Herman's mistake was not going all in on PC. Day one releases, Sony games that cater to PC gamers etc. Things are slowly heading that way regardless.
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The core of PlayStation is still hardware sales. Had he done that, it would be looking a lot more like Xbox right now. Staggered releases allows them to maximize their console potential while picking up some extra coin 6 months to a year later. It's a working strategy that will only need to change if the system itself begins to suffer greatly (again, Xbox).

Besides, that's just single player. Stuff like Helldivers II will always be day and date with PC.
 
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Funny how people still roll with the "3 million" number for Steam Deck, which was the low end of an unofficial estimate over a year ago, before the OLED edition launched. There is no official, or even roughly credible number.

gameworldobserver.com

Steam Deck sales could already reach 3-4 million units, with US, China, and Russia among top countries | Game World Observer

The problem with Steam Deck is that Valve has never reported official sales figures since starting shipping its portable PC in February 2022. However, there is still some indirect data that can be used to estimate the number of owners.
gameworldobserver.com gameworldobserver.com
 
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HogIsland said:
Funny how people still roll with the "3 million" number for Steam Deck, which was the low end of an unofficial estimate over a year ago, before the OLED edition launched. There is no official, or even roughly credible number.

gameworldobserver.com

Steam Deck sales could already reach 3-4 million units, with US, China, and Russia among top countries | Game World Observer

The problem with Steam Deck is that Valve has never reported official sales figures since starting shipping its portable PC in February 2022. However, there is still some indirect data that can be used to estimate the number of owners.
gameworldobserver.com gameworldobserver.com
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The only funny part is when people trying to compared Steam deck to other handhelds.

Even if the Steam deck sold 100 units it would still be a success to those 100 customers. Steam deck does not run proprietary video games software, PC games will forever work on it.

Steam deck these days has A LOT of competition from other handhelds which is healthy and nothing but good news for the customers and the PC gaming handheld community.
 
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SolidQ said:
Nope itself it's fine, A lot people, just waiting next gen cards
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AMD officially said that they won't launch any high end GPU in near feature and going back to RX 580 launch approach to target more than 50% consumer market. However, in consumer mind they will always prefer to chose winner company because
PC market is totally different from console, because it requires specific optimization for each GPU, and of course any sane developer will always put priority first on majority of the market consumers.
 
MarV0 said:
The only funny part is when people trying to compared Steam deck to other handhelds.

Even if the Steam deck sold 100 units it would still be a success to those 100 customers. Steam deck does not run proprietary video games software, PC games will forever work on it.

Steam deck these days has A LOT of competition from other handhelds which is healthy and nothing but good news for the customers and the PC gaming handheld community.
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i totally agree with this.
 
MarV0 said:
You're seeing this the wrong way.

Console sales were going to collapse and anybody who had been paying the slightest attention could have foreseen this.

Herman's mistake was not going all in on PC. Day one releases, Sony games that cater to PC gamers etc. Things are slowly heading that way regardless.
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Except PlayStation console sales have not "collapsed". They are down YOY, but how is this different from any other console generation cycle?

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Topher said:
Except PlayStation console sales have not "collapsed". They are down YOY, but how is this different from any other console generation cycle?

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A 40% drop YOY is worse than the drop from FY16 to FY19 from the diagram you posted for one if you look at the PS4 life cycle, which is the closest one we have to use as an any type of compass for longer generations in current form.
 
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Oh god. For Sony it was 40% drop in revenue in USA, not in units sold.

AMD simply oversupplied their partners and GPUs are not flying off the shelves either.

And it's totally ok for all parties involved. Especially since Epyc is conquering the data center market.
 
Topher said:
Except PlayStation console sales have not "collapsed". They are down YOY, but how is this different from any other console generation cycle?
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PS5 is trailing PS4 by 10 million while the Xbox brand is in tatters all the while gaming has only grown.

AMD who provides all consoles with hardware is down 40% YOY and didn't even manage to make 500m in sales.

Nvidia made 3 billion from PC gamers last quarter, up 18% YOY. Everyone is paying attention to all of this, Sony most of all.
 
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