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[winjer]

I'm not, you're pretending that I pretend it is, as you do with 90% of my posts.

I just think its funny the TDP might go up almost 2x, when it'll probably amount to only 2% gaming gain (on average) at best (at 1080p with a 4090).

Let's not pretend that you are an honest person that only posts facts.
Everyone here already knows how you roll.

 

[Leonidas]

Let's not pretend that you are an honest person that only posts facts.
Everyone here already knows how you roll.

I post facts and predictions. My prediction accuracy seem much better than you when it comes to AMD CPU performance

Only an AMD fanboy would think I am dishonest in what I post.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

7800x3d is still a beast of a cpu what kinda games are you playing or why are you looking for a upgrade already? Just because it’s faster doesn’t mean it’s going to actually improve your games if your current rig isn’t being bottlenecked? . For the cost I’d invest that in faster Ram / SSD or GPU upgrades honestly!

I havent said I want to upgrade my 7800X3D now, but it is only a matter of time when this CPU will become too slow (a few years from now). Being able to buy a much better CPU (maybe 12C24T) on the same AM5 platform represents a much cheaper upgrade option than purchasing a new motherboard and RAM.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

I post facts and predictions. My prediction accuracy seem much better than you when it comes to AMD CPU performance

Only an AMD fanboy would think I am dishonest in what I post.

You post "facts" and yet, you have to qualify your statements.

 

[winjer]

AMD Ryzen 9000 preorders start in Europe: 9950X at €660, 9600X at €310 - VideoCardz.com

First Ryzen 9000 CPUs go on sale: €310 to €660 with availability in September A Slovenian retailer has put four of AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 9000 CPUs up for preorder. Yes, this is the very first preorder for Zen5 desktop, but be aware that shipments will start no sooner than August 2nd. However...

videocardz.com

If we compare the launch prices of the Ryzen 7000 and later 7000X3D series to the official retail prices announced for the Ryzen 9000 series in Europe (using the German MSRP for simplicity), the Ryzen 9000 series would no doubt cost less across the whole stack. In fact, at €660, the 9950X would be even cheaper than the 7900X or 7900X3D at launch. However, since that debut, both SKUs are now much cheaper, with the flagship 7950X3D currently retailing at €519. This means the 9950X would cost €90 more than the current price of the 7950X3D.

Slovenia has a VAT of 22%, already included in these prices.
So if we take out VAT and convert to US dollars, for example, the base price for the 9600X should be around $260. The 7600X released at $299.

Still, consider this is not official information. There might be pricing errors. Or adjustments until launch.

 

[Dorfdad]

I havent said I want to upgrade my 7800X3D now, but it is only a matter of time when this CPU will become too slow (a few years from now). Being able to buy a much better CPU (maybe 12C24T) on the same AM5 platform represents a much cheaper upgrade option than purchasing a new motherboard and RAM.

For sure just wait it out for a price drop. You got a few years easily left in that cpu

 

[winjer]

 

[Panajev2001a]

Awesome blog, very well researched .

Looks like they are setting some interesting new foundations and it kind of explains how they did improve performance while also attacking power consumption well.

We could see interesting tweaks in Zen 5+ or Zen 6 as they build on Zen 5 and with time and more experimentation walk back some of the more conservative choices they made in Zen 5 (they say that several items actually slightly regressed, e.g.: NOOP fusion, as the wider core benefited a bit less from it and they did not have the time to solve this pain point without having complexity issues making the overall design worse… but that they intend to revisit and re-enable that functionality / revert some choices once they had time to figure out proper solutions).

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Okay not an expert so maybe someone can tell me. When will we actually need more than 8 cores for videogames?

 

[winjer]

Awesome blog, very well researched .

Looks like they are setting some interesting new foundations and it kind of explains how they did improve performance while also attacking power consumption well.

We could see interesting tweaks in Zen 5+ or Zen 6 as they build on Zen 5 and with time and more experimentation walk but some of the more conservative choices they made in Zen 5 (they say that several items actually slightly regressed, e.g.: NOOP fusion, as the wider core benefited a bit less from it and they did not have the time to solve this pain point without having complexity issues making the overall design worse… but that they intend to revisit and re-enable that functionality / revert some choices).

There are rumours that, because AMD put so much emphasis on power efficiency, that PBO will bring much greater improvements than in previous Zen CPUs.
If true, it could mean that overlocking is back in the menu.

 

[delirium trigger]

Okay not an expert so maybe someone can tell me. When will we actually need more than 8 cores for videogames?

The ryzen x600s have 6 cores and are usually the best bang for your buck cpus out there. I understand people with 4080 and 4090s opting for the 7800x3d but most people with lower tier cards are just better off saving 150 buck, going with the x600, and putting 150 dollars more into their gpu.

 

[sendit]

For sure just wait it out for a price drop. You got a few years easily left in that cpu

By the time a price drop happens, the next AMD chip will drop or on the horizon.

 

[Celcius]

Asus x870E/x870 lineup: