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[Pelta88]

PlayStation sales and blockbuster games propel console market back to growth

Sony outsells Microsoft’s Xbox and Nintendo’s Switch as sector recovers from post-pandemic slump

www.ft.com

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Looks like Nintendo would be timing it perfectly if Super Switch is released around the holiday season in late 2024

Also looks like Xbox Series has run it's course, MS is going to have to rush out a new Xbox in 2025 if they are serious about continuing to be a platform holder

 

[DeepEnigma]

 

[DaleinCalgary]

we know this

 

[mckmas8808]

Looks like Nintendo would be timing it perfectly if Super Switch is released around the holiday season in late 2024

Also looks like Xbox Series has run it's course, MS is going to have to rush out a new Xbox in 2025 if they are serious about continuing to be a platform holder

They can't do a new console in 2025.

 

[Pelta88]

Looks like Nintendo would be timing it perfectly if Super Switch is released around the holiday season in late 2024

Also looks like Xbox Series has run it's course, MS is going to have to rush out a new Xbox in 2025 if they are serious about continuing to be a platform holder

Changing the hardware wont address the issues of the platform itself.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

Looks like Nintendo would be timing it perfectly if Super Switch is released around the holiday season in late 2024

Also looks like Xbox Series has run it's course, MS is going to have to rush out a new Xbox in 2025 if they are serious about continuing to be a platform holder

No more new Xbox, mark my words.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Also looks like Xbox Series has run it's course, MS is going to have to rush out a new Xbox in 2025 if they are serious about continuing to be a platform holder

I think a floundering product 3 years in needs to be awarded another 3rd party publisher or two.

 

[bender]

No more new Xbox, mark my words.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

is this new or dejabubu?:

 

[Jesb]

There's no possibly way I see for Xbox to get out of the 3rd spot no matter what they do. It's gonna be Sony and Nintendo leading the way again. They may even fall behind steamdeck if it really takes off.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Which is a good thing.
This will bring the next Nintendo gaming device in 2024 and well.... oh yeah we are also getting a PS5 Pro.

 

[roosnam1980]

 

[Gaiff]

There's no possibly way I see for Xbox to get out of the 3rd spot no matter what they do. It's gonna be Sony and Nintendo leading the way again. They may even fall behind steamdeck if it really takes off.

3rd spot would be fine if they were at least a close 3rd but they're so far behind that the PS5 will lap them soon.

That the Switch is declining about as much as the Xbox despite being on its last legs and coming down from much higher numbers is wild. Phil Spencer and the top brass completely failed their fans. 2024 was supposed to be THE year to reestablish the brand with major AAA outings in Redfall, Starfield, and Forza but all three under delivered. Now we must look towards Fable, Hellblade, and Avowed, but given Microsoft' track record, what are the odds that these don't flop?

At this point, they should just commit instead of half-assing it. Fully become a publisher with the desire to be on every device. The console is practically dead weight now.

 

[diffusionx]

Xbox Series is a massive failure.

 

[demigod]

I think a floundering product 3 years in needs to be awarded another 3rd party publisher or two.

Why stop there, just buy Sony and Nintendo.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why stop there, just buy Sony and Nintendo.

They need to compete against Google, Amazon and Apple after all !!

 

[bender]

Why stop there, just buy Sony and Nintendo.

 

[Crayon]

The TDX (Thousand Dollar Xbox) is the way forward.

 

[lh032]

i wonder can sony reach the 25 mil target

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I think a floundering product 3 years in needs to be awarded another 3rd party publisher or two.

MS would like to acquire EA and T2 but realistically after the resistance they faced from regulators trying to acquire ABK they know that ship has sailed

 

[thismeinteil]

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Xbox Series is a massive failure.

...and growing.

 

[ByWatterson]

Xbox Series is a massive failure.

Harsh. But you're right. It just is.

 

[Mr Moose]

Xbox Series is down to Xbox One levels of yearly sales way too early. Shame, the X seems like a decent piece of kit, but damn did they fuck everything else up.

 

[Loomy]

Looks like Nintendo would be timing it perfectly if Super Switch is released around the holiday season in late 2024

Also looks like Xbox Series has run it's course, MS is going to have to rush out a new Xbox in 2025 if they are serious about continuing to be a platform holder

Xbox's problem isn't hardware. It is studio output, which they've kind of solved now with the Zenimax and ABK acquisitions.

 

[Mr Moose]

Xbox's problem isn't hardware. It is studio output, which they've kind of solved now with the Zenimax and ABK acquisitions.

I kinda agree but also not with the second half. Zenimax did fuck all for them and CoD will remain multiplat. All they did is miss out on PS money by removing games.

 

[DeepEnigma]

MS would like to acquire EA and T2 but realistically after the resistance they faced from regulators trying to acquire ABK they know that ship has sailed

What resistance when it came to console SLS? US judge caved, EU caved, and even UK caved all due to "the cloud concerns."

They only need to offload that "concern" to UbiSoft again (only to gobble them up too in 10-15), since console SLS doesn't matter, and claim they need to "compete" with Google, Amazon, Apple, etc.

Regulators are telling everyone what the WEF future is being paved with. Cloud, owning nothing and being happy. It's all theater, you see.

Of course I'm being a bit facetious. Or am I?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Xbox Series is a massive failure.

Which is crazy as it's a nice piece of tech and with all of those properties.

 

[Mr Moose]

Which is crazy as it's a nice piece of tech and with all of those properties.

The S isn't, which is half of their sales.

 

[bender]

What resistance when it came to console SLS? US judge caved, EU caved, and even UK caved all due to "the cloud concerns."

They only need to offload that "concern" to UbiSoft again (only to gobble them up too in 10-15), since console SLS doesn't matter, and claim they need to "compete" with Google, Amazon, Apple, etc.

Regulators are telling everyone what the WEF future is being paved with. Cloud, owning nothing and being happy. It's all theater, you see.

Of course I'm being a bit facetious. Or am I?

 

[LordOcidax]

i wonder can sony reach the 25 mil target

According to this no. 22.5

 

[Jesb]

3rd spot would be fine if they were at least a close 3rd but they're so far behind that the PS5 will lap them soon.

That the Switch is declining about as much as the Xbox despite being on its last legs and coming down from much higher numbers is wild. Phil Spencer and the top brass completely failed their fans. 2024 was supposed to be THE year to reestablish the brand with major AAA outings in Redfall, Starfield, and Forza but all three under delivered. Now we must look towards Fable, Hellblade, and Avowed, but given Microsoft' track record, what are the odds that these don't flop?

At this point, they should just commit instead of half-assing it. Fully become a publisher with the desire to be on every device. The console is practically dead weight now.

That would make the most business wise sense for them. I don't know they'd continue with another Xbox. Just become a full publisher and keep pushing gamepass like they are. Keep pushing gamepass, xcloud and they should be good.

 

[DeepEnigma]

According to this no. 22.5

25mil is the fiscal year target.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Good thing Ms doesn't believe in traditional hardware anymore and is going the streaming route. Rip Xbox consoles.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

The S isn't, which is half of their sales.

I'm talking this gen.

 

[LordOcidax]

25mil is the fiscal year target.

I think this is a fiscal year estimate.

 

[Mr Moose]

According to this no. 22.5

They have until March.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I think this is a fiscal year estimate.

Pretty sure until March.

 

[T-0800]

I think this is a fiscal year estimate.

So you're saying Xbox could be even lower?

 

[LordOcidax]

Pretty sure until March.

I know but the analysis is an estimate for the fiscal year… if not That would put the Switch around 18 million, thats 3 million more than Nintendo forecast.

 

[LordOcidax]

So you're saying Xbox could be even lower?

If we apply the same rule for the 3, is more.

 

[Mr Moose]

I know but the analysis is an estimate for the fiscal year… if not That would put the Switch around 18 million, thats 3 million more than Nintendo forecast.

I might be reading the OP wrong but... That's not fiscal year. Looks like it might be up until now-ish, end of November?

If we apply the same rule for the 3, is more.

Wait what, does the Xbox line go up in your image?

 

[Del_X]

So Microsoft just allocated a bunch of chips to the cloud during Covid instead of consumers, then when supply loosened people went with their preferred choice (Sony).

Microsoft had an opening and blew it. I'm fine with them doing a tic tock upgrade cycle starting in 2026 lasting 3-4 years between major and minor revisions. I also don't expect any Xbox hardware to ever sell spectacularly.

 

[LordOcidax]

Wait what, does the Xbox line go up in your image?

If this is not the full fiscal year for any of the 3, is going to be a bigger number for the 3 for the full fiscal year. Simple…

 

[Mr Moose]

If this is not the full fiscal year for any of the 3, is going to be a bigger number for the 3 for the full fiscal year. Simple…

You know what fiscal year means, right?
They wouldn't be announcing fiscal year sales in DECEMBER, when the year end is MARCH.
If this is accurate this is yearly sales, not fiscal sales.

 

[bitbydeath]

If this is not the full fiscal year for any of the 3, is going to be a bigger number for the 3 for the full fiscal year. Simple…

Don't forget these numbers will be from Jan til (end of November?), which means the number would be less than 22.5M as the fiscal year starts in April, and runs til the end of March.

 

[bender]

The S isn't, which is half of their sales.

 

[LordOcidax]

You know what fiscal year means, right?
They wouldn't be announcing fiscal year sales in DECEMBER, when the year end is MARCH.
If this is accurate this is yearly sales, not fiscal sales.

I know, but i think this analysis is about the fiscal year… Could be wrong

 

[Mr Moose]

I know, but i think this analysis is about the fiscal year… Could be wrong

It would be the wrong time for it if it was. It says "this year".