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An ancient street food kiosk uncovered in Pompeii's ruins

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
This is pretty cool.


Looks like they served chicken, duck, and.... dog?

Architectural design not that different than what we use today. The Romans were so advanced.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
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DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
I wonder how the food tasted. How well was it cooked? Was it seasoned? How advanced was that little kiosk? Was the food kept hot underneath there like modern ones? Or was it just dumped into large containers in there?

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if all of that was on the positive side. The Romans were so damn advanced, man. And Pompeii was a town for elites too if I remember right. Not sure if everyone who lived there was high status, but they probably had some good shit delivered there.

And those paintings are damn good.
 

lachesis

Member
Wonder what kind of food did they eat 2000 years ago? I guess chicken is given, considering the painting... Fascinating stuff.
It looks quite modern and functional too.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
There's a painting of a dog on one of them I wonder if they served dog :messenger_grimmacing_

I did see in a documentary once that they analyzed the shit(literal shit) they found in Pompeii and it indicated a lot of them were eating fish.
 

NeoIkaruGAF

Gold Member
The color is incredible. Makes you wonder how all those surviving statues and monuments actually looked like before centuries of weather damage. Coloring such a surface couldn’t have been that cheap back then, yet they did it for a simple food street stall. That yellow is something else, they always teach how the ancients made red and blue in school, but yellow is practically never talked about.

Another amazing thing is the art. How art in the western world regressed during the Middle Ages when people could draw and paint like that in the first century AD defies belief. It’s clear that the Byzantines were the true heirs of Rome in that matter, while medieval drawings from western Europe look like children’s efforts.

Rome was much more advanced than we like to think in retrospective. And yes, everyday life probably was more like today’s than we can imagine, only with less reading, slower news, and much longer travel times.
Mary Beard’s book SPQR has chapters dedicated to lower class people and workers in republican and Augustan Rome. Their problems and their daily lives are surprisingly modern.
 

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
Pompeii is amazing. Been there once and just sat on a small staircase in a house alone, thinking thousands of years ago people actually lived in that house and climbed those stairs. Maybe a brother and sister sat, playing games, at that very place where I was sitting.
The well preserved pictures are mind-blowing, like in the article above.
 

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
Another amazing thing is the art. How art in the western world regressed during the Middle Ages when people could draw and paint like that in the first century AD defies belief. It’s clear that the Byzantines were the true heirs of Rome in that matter, while medieval drawings from western Europe look like children’s efforts.

Rome was much more advanced than we like to think in retrospective. And yes, everyday life probably was more like today’s than we can imagine, only with less reading, slower news, and much longer travel times.
Mary Beard’s book SPQR has chapters dedicated to lower class people and workers in republican and Augustan Rome. Their problems and their daily lives are surprisingly modern.

At risk of sounding a little offensive, its my personal belief that Abrahamic religions in general cause (In Islam's case) or used to cause (in case of all 3) a severe curtailing of art, culture, science and general quality of life. You look at Europe before Christianity and life seems much freer, at least in Roman and Greek cultures. Freedom of thought, great philosophers, multitude of colorful Gods and stories, openness about sexuality, prevalence of scientific thought and so on. Of course there were miseries and wars and what not, but at least thought policing seems to have been much lesser. The same was the case with Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc before arrival of Islam. Mesopotamia, Babylon, great works of art, libraries, statues. All ruined and gone and a hegemonic cult imposed on people- which curtails free thought, expressions and human liberties. What a terrible state.

In general I feel that eastern religions (Buddhism, Hinduism etc) allowed for far more freedom of expression than Abrahamic religions.
 
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Ionian

Member
Truly astounding, cheers for the link OP!. Amazing to read and look at.

I wonder if they're going to re-open? I'd eat there.
 

Dr. Claus

Banned
At risk of sounding a little offensive, its my personal belief that Abrahamic religions in general cause (In Islam's case) or used to cause (in case of all 3) a severe curtailing of art, culture, science and general quality of life. You look at Europe before Christianity and life seems much freer, at least in Roman and Greek cultures. Freedom of thought, great philosophers, multitude of colorful Gods and stories, openness about sexuality, prevalence of scientific thought and so on. Of course there were miseries and wars and what not, but at least thought policing seems to have been much lesser. The same was the case with Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan etc before arrival of Islam. Mesopotamia, Babylon, great works of art, libraries, statues. All ruined and gone and a hegemonic cult imposed on people- which curtails free thought, expressions and human liberties. What a terrible state.

In general I feel that eastern religions (Buddhism, Hinduism etc) allowed for far more freedom of expression than Abrahamic religions.

I would suggest you read some historical texts. The issue wasn’t religion that causes a downfall of technology, culture, and art after the Roman Empire fell. It was a power vacuum where a number of groups tried to fill causing years of war. Couple this with other issues such as plagues, severe changes in weather (such as the mini ice age during the 14th to 19th centuries), etc.
 
The color is incredible. Makes you wonder how all those surviving statues and monuments actually looked like before centuries of weather damage. Coloring such a surface couldn’t have been that cheap back then, yet they did it for a simple food street stall. That yellow is something else, they always teach how the ancients made red and blue in school, but yellow is practically never talked about.

Another amazing thing is the art. How art in the western world regressed during the Middle Ages when people could draw and paint like that in the first century AD defies belief. It’s clear that the Byzantines were the true heirs of Rome in that matter, while medieval drawings from western Europe look like children’s efforts.

Rome was much more advanced than we like to think in retrospective. And yes, everyday life probably was more like today’s than we can imagine, only with less reading, slower news, and much longer travel times.
Mary Beard’s book SPQR has chapters dedicated to lower class people and workers in republican and Augustan Rome. Their problems and their daily lives are surprisingly modern.
Sexually frustrated men are better off reading something like Ars Amatoria by Ovid and staying off of Reddit. Same problems thousands of years later.
 

Stouffers

Banned
Futurologists generally say the longer something has been around, the higher the chance is it will stay.

Even in 10000 years, a table will still be a table, and a wheel a wheel.
What about the definition of marriage? It changed in a matter of months after 1000s of years.
 

Fbh

Member
Always amazing to see something preserved this well.
Really helps you picture how these places must have looked like back then.

There's a painting of a dog on one of them I wonder if they served dog :messenger_grimmacing_

The article says they found traces of pork, beef, snails and fish. Maybe the dog painting was more decorative ?
 
Man, this is so cool. Especially the fact that the colours are all there. As others have mentioned, Romans, the ancient civilizations in general, used so many colours and it's sad to see that such a small percentage is actually still visible.
 

Lupingosei

Banned
That was actually the Greeks. Heron of Alexandria, specifically.
Yes, the Greeks as well, but I mean in an industrial context. What I mean a steam engine used like during the industrialization.

The Greeks also had a navigational clock, but it was kept a secret only to few, pretty much like the steam engine.
 
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The dog is probably the owner's first pet (the dog found dead is a small adult).

The dog painting's frame has a graffiti - NICIA CINAEDE CACATOR. It's a pun. It means "Nicias, shameless shitter". That would be the dog. It can be also interpreted as "Nicias, fucking faggot", because "cinaede" is a flexible word which means catamite but basically has the same use as the modern "faggot". That might be the shop owner, but not necessarily - just because the graffiti is there doesn't mean it's directed at that person, same as any graffiti.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
The skill and talent level,of your average person back then had to be way more than today. 7 billion people on earth today, no idea how many there was back then but I doubt it was even half that. They had all these engineers, artists painters. How many painters in one of your cities could even paint something like that, let alone a small town? Every Roman town had shit like that in it.

I remember in saw on a documentary some ancient jewels and Roman treasures found and one of them was this egg shaped thing with gems on it. No one has figured out how it was made. The design is intricate. They could recreate it, but they haven’t figured out how the romans did it with the tools they had available to them back in their time. That’s how advanced they were, experts today can’t even figure them out in some respects.
 
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008

Banned
Pompeii is amazing. Been there once and just sat on a small staircase in a house alone, thinking thousands of years ago people actually lived in that house and climbed those stairs. Maybe a brother and sister sat, playing games, at that very place where I was sitting.
The well preserved pictures are mind-blowing, like in the article above.

Definitely recommend it too. It’s huge too and very cool.
Looks like they ate dog
 
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