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An Open Letter To Warner Bros CEO Kevin Tsujihara (Contains: Ether)
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ElBoxyBrown
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He was also hopeful about Suicide Squad being DC's first critical hit like a day before it's first premier.
I agree with the general sentiment expresed. WB gets a director with one breakout success and then the studio seems to keep throwing tentpole releases and ballooning budgets at them, no matter how much that first success zooms away in the rearview mirror. It's like the studio heads pick out their own personal golden boys and rather than pull back at a failure, they double down even harder. Happened with the Wachowskis, happening with Snyder.
Someone has a big movie that under-performs, let alone several, start putting them on smaller projects. Simple as. If they're good filmmakers, they'll find a way to claw back. If they're not, they won't, and that's a shame! But finding out a director lost their mojo through shitty underperforming small movies is a much better way to get the news than through shitty underperforming huge movies.
Someone has a big movie that under-performs, let alone several, start putting them on smaller projects. Simple as. If they're good filmmakers, they'll find a way to claw back. If they're not, they won't, and that's a shame! But finding out a director lost their mojo through shitty underperforming small movies is a much better way to get the news than through shitty underperforming huge movies.
I don't remember reading anything like that from him. Even he's recognized it was a mess.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Alan Horn, then motion picture president of WB, was pushed aside (he has since took office at Disney and it shows), and Tsujihara took his post in 2011.
Films that have been scheduled and released since 2013 are under the leadership of Kevin *with some few exceptions like Mad Max as they were greenlit under Alan Horn*
captjohnboyd
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For what it's worth I agree with the letter writer to an extent, although I think it's an incredibly hard job to predict what audiences will like, just look at some of the masterpieces that have bombed, I for one am FAR more excited for Andy Serkis' Jungle Book than the dreck one that just came out.
-Plasma Reus-
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Wonder Woman Will be a horrible mess. Probably the worst movie DC has put out in this DC EU thing.
Because the movies were and still are bad/mediocre/cgi mess...
I remember Snider from(used to be from) the Wrap saying he's hearing good things about SS just before release, so many people were going into that thing wanting to like it, makes the "biased" claims even more pathetic.
Anyway get ready for the denial phase...
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/08/01/can-suicide-squad-save-the-dc-movieverse
Ok so maybe he was hoping it would steer the DC movieverse into a whole different direction instead of critical reception.
lazybones18
Banned
don't care about the crap before MoS. MoS and BvS were both great movies so he earned a pass
TIL opinions can be wrong.
Yeah, the takeaway that I got was that he thought it would have better legs and a smaller drop than BvS. He has definitely not shied away from reporting negative rumors about DCEU. He was the reported BvS being a mess, and was pretty much mum on SS aside from the reshoots (not positive or negative).
n0razi
Member
A good CEO makes money, first and foremost.... your definition of good may vary
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
It's not necessarily a bad strategy. Spielberg has had plenty of misses over the years but if you were a movie studio executive, you'd still want to secure him long term. WB in the past established long lasting partnerships with Eastwood, Kubrick, Nolan and many others. Sometimes it paid off and sometimes it didn't but those were almost always good investments.
I like that WB used to be a filmmaker driven studio that kept financing the Wachowskis even though all of their post-Matrix ideas always looked like bombs even before the cameras started rolling.
The problem is that I don't think they are filmmaker driven anymore. Despite what he says, I seriously doubt that Suicide Squad is truly David Ayer's movie and BvS was also butchered (I still hate the Ultimate Cut). And Patty Jenkins, with her lack of credentials (no trying to be a dick, she just has a relatively small resume), looks like a studio director who could easily be pushed around. But I hope I'm wrong on that front.
WB: get rid of Snyder because it doesn't work. Stop being reactionary. Become a filmmaker driven studio again.
Edit: While I was reading the article, I kept trying to remember who Gracie Law was because the name sounded familiar. I thought she had to be a relatively well-known studio exec but no, that's a damn Big Trouble character! Well, good choice of pseudonym.
-Plasma Reus-
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Yea, I don't know why people are suddenly so in to it. It's the cheapest looking. Gal Gadot is alright in the trailers, but I still doubt her acting abilities. Wonder Woman looks like it has horrible action set pieces too. It'll be a disaster on every level.
Worst part is that you can tell they retroactively boosted the saturation of some of the colours to undo some of that horrible green pallet they decided to use to hide the cheapness.
Damn, Gracie Law reference. But does the author of the article have green eyes? I need to know!
I caught a matinee of The Legend of Tarzan the other day, and it had a trailer of Fantastic Beasts as a lead-in. The trailer felt very off as it was essentially JK Rowling speaking to the audience and saying "This movie is going to be awesome and you should go watch it!" instead of letting the film and its trailer stand for itself.
I don't know who in WB marketing green-lit that trailer, but it was probably the first time I've seen a trailer like that in a theatre.
Any specifics?
Night Angel
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Dr. Feel Good
Banned
I was so close to taking a job at Warner Bros in September of 2014. So glad it didn't work out and I got a better offer across town.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I can maybe see why someone would like Man of Steel but BvS basically doubled down on what made MoS bad and retrospectively made MoS worse.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
We've seen enough of what WB's post-production can do to a movie.
Bruh, you could have saved WB.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
Wow. I hope this is real. I can sympathize. Many times I've played great-looking and coded games that are let down by its story and direction and imagine how the excellent technical team must feel (*cough*Killzone*cough).
Also:
FUCK.
Also:
FUCK.
Who's she?
torre_avenue
Banned
Really? Most of what I've seen for "Fantastic Beasts" has looked pretty decent. I can't recall seeing a trailer like that play. Do you know if it was just a random featurette for First Look, or an actual trailer, green warning sign and everything? Besides that, trailers for it look pretty decent and I'm hoping WB doesn't fuck it up by half-assing the story just because it's a trilogy. I'd love if they did one contained story and then alluded to some greater threat towards the end, instead of eschewing answers for cliffhangers.
EatinOlives
Member
I've seen several trailers like that, not just from WB. I don't know why, it's some Hollywood fad where famous person/actor in that movie talking directly to the camera going "omg plsss see this guyssss" apparently is endearing to moviegoers or something? It's really terrible.
These trailers usually have the lead actors (or the most famous person in the production, like Rowling) sitting down in an interview-style setting directly talking to the camera going "omg this movie's gonna be great it's gonna be awesome it's gonna be great pls go watch guys lol xoxo~!" for like 30 seconds before playing the trailer proper. It's baffling and tacky, I've no clue which fucker thought was a great idea to sell a movie.
The last time I saw it was for the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles where Megan Fox and Will Arnett were promoting this thing where the first X ticket buyers would get some TMNT branded thermus or some shit.
Then it's good thing a whole division was made to do it instead.
Count Dookkake
Member
The girl with the green eyes.
TBiddy
Member
The journalist from Big Trouble in Little China, I think
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
How was that embarrassing to read? Well it doesn't matter because your Gaf account will disappear before you get a chance to fully explain yourself anyway.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Hint: There's a problem with her face.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Yeah, this one. But you have to actually read it to find out.
This one.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It reads very personal. I don't know what part is embarrassing.
exmachina64
Banned
A bad CEO can increase revenue and profit in the short term by cutting costs. When shit hits the fan, they can move on and leave a company that's tanked.
Might want to be more specific in your definition.
What exactly is embarrassing about it?
If your gonna come out with bold statements like yours, you otta back it up. This isn't gonna end well for you bud.
And? She heard Wonder Woman, a film that is hardly into post-production, is a mess but was didn't hear the same for Suicide Squad and was very hopeful.
Also:https://twitter.com/devincf/status/760860661706395648
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Pan, Tarzan, and Jungle Book are the biggest WTF for WB. Disney owns people's interpretations of those stories.
Disney don't own the popular conception of Tarzan like they do the other two.
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