Can it be on my graphing calculator then?
Also, I won't lie. When I read the topic title, I half expected "Analyst" to mean "Pachter."
Analyst on Wii U: "Competitive position has deteriorated", "No Activision support".
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Can it be on my graphing calculator then?
Also, I won't lie. When I read the topic title, I half expected "Analyst" to mean "Pachter."
Indeed on all of those accounts. Hell Nintendo is making it even cheaper for Activision now with future Skylanders stuff. They dont have to sell a base anymore if they work with nintendo on the NFC stuff.
SkyMasterson
Member
Same here and with Skylanders all the rage now for Activision, you'd think the WiiU would be right up there alley. Not to mention the COD ports on the Wii are million sellers.
As for Konami being mentioned, how many games have they even put out this gen here in the states? Don't think thats a dealbreaker at all, except no Metal Gear.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
If BLOPS2 isn't on WiiU (and I actually think that is far more probable than Activion ditching the console completely) then that's gonna be a problem shifting casual-core minds into thinking the platform is going to have the big games and they wouldn't missing out (yes, there is such a thing as casual core-gamers, my brother or my friends are not into Just Dance games or whatever -tho they liked Wii Sports-, they're anything but dudebro but buy the occasional big core release like Batman, Uncharted, BF3 and so on, only maybe 7 or 8 games each year).
Hopefully this is bogus, it's not like gaming trends analysts get it right most of the times, quite the opposite really.
Hopefully this is bogus, it's not like gaming trends analysts get it right most of the times, quite the opposite really.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
SMH
I really don't know what to say I really do, sigh even the trolls are confused.
I really don't know what to say I really do, sigh even the trolls are confused.
No, just trying to come up with an example of some inane thing that people might bring up. Mentioning specific graphic qualities is actually more sophisticated than what we saw in the other thread, were the Zelda tech demo was dismissed out of hand for "looking worse than God of War 3."
I doubt there will be another MGS or Kojima game released for at least 18 months. I'll say wait and see, there's plenty of time for a quick port if the console explodes out of the gate in Japan.
I doubt Rising will be released on Wii U though.
If CoD is on Vita this year, it will be on Wii U. In all likelihood it will be BLOPS2.
And really, if they could port MW3 to Wii, they can port BLOPS2 to Wii U.
you've been more active in recent weeks than i can remember in years.
makes me nostalgic.
How do investors not see the retardation of their iPhone demands? Nintendo make more profit on consoles than MS and Sony combined. Their games are the reason for this. You put Nintendo games on other platforms, and you destroy Nintendo's primary source of income, which happens to be the most profitable source of income in the industry. And why? So they can sell their games for 99c lol
So... Wii-U is gonna end up like the Vita in that regard
He's been on GAF longer than you did.
SolarPowered
Member
I won't get tired of them so long as they don't make yearly sequels. ^_^
Uncle Rupee
Banned
...and when analysts get it wrong, are there any repercussions? Nah, just go back to earning six figures. Such a load of bullshit.
I'm talking about after the conference
OldJadedGamer
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On GAF you are your post history.
you have to be kidding me.
Okay, read the OP, about to go back and read some responses, but I had a (potentially stupid) question/remark.
As our consoles become engine based, and scalable, is the WiiU really in as bad of a position as Wii was, relative to the competition (if these rumors about the power hold true). If the difference is essentially the difference between playing on "super high" or "medium", with all other gameplay intact, will most people care? There were a ton of other disadvantages the Wii had, that Nintendo can still fix. If the only gap is a resolution and minor effect differences, I don't see them in as bad of a position as they were in with the Wii. Especially if they can deliver a lower price point for all new games again. Obviously the wii become a phenomenon, and I don't see that happening with WiiU. I do think it will do well if it can be on par with other console functionality, or actually useful unique functionality.
As our consoles become engine based, and scalable, is the WiiU really in as bad of a position as Wii was, relative to the competition (if these rumors about the power hold true). If the difference is essentially the difference between playing on "super high" or "medium", with all other gameplay intact, will most people care? There were a ton of other disadvantages the Wii had, that Nintendo can still fix. If the only gap is a resolution and minor effect differences, I don't see them in as bad of a position as they were in with the Wii. Especially if they can deliver a lower price point for all new games again. Obviously the wii become a phenomenon, and I don't see that happening with WiiU. I do think it will do well if it can be on par with other console functionality, or actually useful unique functionality.
phosphor112
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IF that Activision statement is true, the Wii U is dead in the water.
EA was the biggest publisher during Dreamcast, Activision is the second largest now. This won't bode well for Nintendo if true. It really won't.
EA was the biggest publisher during Dreamcast, Activision is the second largest now. This won't bode well for Nintendo if true. It really won't.
Night_Trekker
Member
So, doomed? Third party?
OP is lol
OP is lol
As realistically negative as one can be on the WiiU, there's no fucking way that it's true. It makes zero sense from a business perspective to not even do shitty ports.
Freezie KO
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Nintendo's going so third party that they won't even port to their own systems.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I don't think Goldeneye's sales have been officially revealed. However, developer Eurocom commented on how "immensely satisfied" it was based the Wii version's sales in the first three months after its release.
Night_Trekker
Member
But if that happens... then other third parties won't have unbeatable competition on Nintendo's consoles...
*head explodes*
Yeah Sega thought they could fill EAs void too.
Little Green Yoda
Member
Unless there's some mega-scandal brewing between the two companies, there's no reason why Activision would ignore the Wii U. Maybe in its craziness, Nintendo made it harder to port CoD to Wii U than the Wii? Yeah, that must be it.
I don't see how somebody who spouts this bullshit can be employed as an analyst. Pachter says some crazy things. Apple diehards say even crazier things. But this is really out there.
I don't see how somebody who spouts this bullshit can be employed as an analyst. Pachter says some crazy things. Apple diehards say even crazier things. But this is really out there.
You're comparing apples to chainsaws. You're also assuming this is true - at the very least, Activision will provide shitty ports and Skylanders stuff. Which is what they basically did this generation.
I mean, I've been down on the WiiU for a while, but let's use basic logic when we're discussing these things.
phosphor112
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Reasoning for my caps bolded and underlined "if" lol
Activision and EA are money whores, I think they'll "support them" but not in the sense that Wii had Activision support. Shit ports.
EDIT: Forgot about Skylanders... rumored RFID tech in Wii U tablet makes it perfect candidate.
Why do people think Activision means anything to Nintendo?
Support was inconsequential on DS.
Support was inconsequential on Wii (especially once Guitar Hero died)
Support is currently inconsequential on 3DS.
If they stopped supporting Nintendo nobody would notice. Also, CoD next-gen will be like Grand Theft Auto this-gen.
Support was inconsequential on DS.
Support was inconsequential on Wii (especially once Guitar Hero died)
Support is currently inconsequential on 3DS.
If they stopped supporting Nintendo nobody would notice. Also, CoD next-gen will be like Grand Theft Auto this-gen.
I think it's too early for any company to be making any sort of decisions on the market landscape in terms of dedication to the platform.
Baseline, Activision will do what they did this generation - shitty ports. Anyone expecting them to fully shun the system is fucking insane.
I said "IF" it happens. Not that it will. I said IF it happens then yeah Nintendo is fucked. No way you can say otherwise.
Well. Lets say PS4 and Next Xbox have the anti used games thing. Wii U does not. Would that be enough of a reason for publishers who are very anti used games to not support the wii u?
AceBandage
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Nintendo is the world's number one publisher (I don't think Sega could ever touch it past the Genesis era), they'd be okay without Activision support.
Of course, the thought of Activision not supporting a Nintendo platform is ludicrous in the first place. Unless there is something we don't know. But the thing could be powered by the same CPU that's in a TI-84 graphing calculator, and Activision would still support. It would go completely against their business model to do otherwise.
BassForever
Member
Pachter says crazy stuff, but at least he honestly believes it and does some kind of research to back up his comments. Activision has already said they're supporting the WiiU, so this guy is either lying or breaking some kind of massive industry secret.
It's not even worth the thought-game. It's a non-starter.
I hope you don't think that's an accident or coincidence.
To Far Away Times
Member
There is zero chance that Activision doesn't support the Wii U.
Activison has made a shit ton of money off of the Wii versions of several of their games. Weren't Skylanders and Guitar Hero III more popular on the Wii than on the 360/PS3?
They also couldn't resist hinting that Nintendo should join the iOS race to the bottom. Because that's a wonderful, sustainable, healthy, long term strategy compared to what Nintendo is currently doing...
Activison has made a shit ton of money off of the Wii versions of several of their games. Weren't Skylanders and Guitar Hero III more popular on the Wii than on the 360/PS3?
They also couldn't resist hinting that Nintendo should join the iOS race to the bottom. Because that's a wonderful, sustainable, healthy, long term strategy compared to what Nintendo is currently doing...
I think we'll see plenty of multiplatform games that don't go to WiiU. But Call of Duty is probably not at risk. With a franchise like that, the greater question is whether Activision's main people work on the port, and whether the online community is treated well. But one way or another WiiU will get Modern Warfare.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I heard EA isn't supporting the Wii U either. Nintendo will be lucky to get a port of Madden NFL 05.
The PS1 version.
The PS1 version.
SouthernDragon
Member
Such shortsighted bullshit.
AceBandage
Banned
They'd be lucky to get Madden 95!
I feel like.. there's a difference here, and I want to say its partially because Nintendo got through this gen without a ton of ATVI support.. at least where it matters
Modern Warfare 1 wasn't released on the Wii until 2 years after the HD version, and I still believe the Wii doesn't have a version of MW 2.
And if it did well without having the biggest guns in ATVI's arsenal. I think they could do decently next gen.
Sure stuff like Skylanders and ATVI's next big franchise may hurt, but CoD is the real question here.
Even more than MW, I feel like these off-season ones are shoe-ins since World at War, Black Ops and 3 all made Wii appearances.
If nothing else, they had a team working on Wii ports can just move em over.
To Far Away Times
Member
Are you an analyst? If not, you should be.
"without konami, forget about metal gear"
Im tired of metal gear. I was tired of metal gear at the Snake Eater release. I played guns of the patriots once and i plan to never play it again.
The only thing i could really miss from konami is if somehow they were planning a Yie Ar kung fu remake
Im tired of metal gear. I was tired of metal gear at the Snake Eater release. I played guns of the patriots once and i plan to never play it again.
The only thing i could really miss from konami is if somehow they were planning a Yie Ar kung fu remake
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