Watch season 1 and try this again. It's the best Star Wars since the old trilogy. By far.Season 2 of the story of a side character of a bad prequel?
Soon we will have 4 seasons of the story of a janitor of the Death Star...
I watched it!Watch season 1 and try this again. It's the best Star Wars since the old trilogy. By far.
It was a perfect representation of the "common" guys. Star Wars has always been a bunch of heroes fighting off stupid minions that can't hit the target. Andor was the first show that made you experience the fear the empire is oozing out. That tie fighter scene, man… chills!I watched it!
It was completely pointless in the grand scheme of story wars story.
Nothing that happened was relevant.
So it's slowly becoming the Hallmark channel?It was a perfect representation of the "common" guys. Star Wars has always been a bunch of heroes fighting off stupid minions that can't hit the target. Andor was the first show that made you experience the fear the empire is oozing out. That tie fighter scene, man… chills!
nah, it doesn´t have Jedi in it, so no religious stuff.So it's slowly becoming the Hallmark channel?
Not gonna lie, a Star Wars Hallmark movie about small planet girl who leaves to go to Coruscant and meets super busy Imperial lawyer and then is sent back to small planet where she runs into high school small planet flame who secretly a Rebel and now she has to choose.......damn, that's some crossover synergy!!!So it's slowly becoming the Hallmark channel?
Good tunes in it though.
I think they'll be used by the Empire to affect Gohrman, otherwise they were insanely pointless and frankly annoying.What was the point of being on that planet with that fighter, the stale mate was pointless, and I don't know what that group had to do. Maybe they will factor in later. Overall the first 2 episodes have been weak to me.
Exactly. You can criticize the first three episodes for certain things, but when it comes to production quality, costumes (and above all, good taste), it's night and day compared to the other Star Wars series. That was already the case with the first season. It's a goldmine for developers—there's so much potential.I can't believe how much better this is than 99% of all the other Disney SW productions. Comparing this to The Acolyte is like comparing the Sistine Chapel to a dog turd. There's no comparison honestly. The budget is slightly larger for this show than Acolyte, but it looks so insanely good and has terrific writing and actors. I have no idea where the money went in Leslye Headland's show.
Actually, as Gilroy mentioned in several interviews, it's great to see the Rebels portrayed as something other than a monolithic group, with different factions and, most importantly, a bit of stupidity (because, as I've said, if the Empire has its share of idiots, there's no reason the other side wouldn't as well). What I do regret is the rock-paper-scissors moment at the end of episode 2… Gilroy really went too far with that one—it's just way too dumb.I am surprised that so many people seem to dislike the Yavin rebel scenes. The Disney Star Wars canon has often painted the Empire as full of incompetents, so it was nice to see the Rebels painted in a similar light for once. If I disliked anything it was the farm scenes. I genuinely do not care about any of those characters, and Bix's assault scene is just a rehash of her season 1 torture.
I'm not big on the tone of the Andor series (it is done very well, it just isn't the sort of tone I gravitate towards in fictional entertainment) but I acknowledge it does what it is trying to do very well and yeah, the prison episodes of season 1 hit hard.What an episode that was in season 1 with the prison. WOW.
I liked it, but it didn't work well intertwined with the 4 other plots going on and being drawn out for 3 episodes. It would have worked better in a normal A/B plot episode and the way it ended was just too comedic. It shows how all types of people can get involved with a cause and sometimes you can end up with a lot of stupid people. It reminds me of that Vice video about those Islamic fighters (with Abu Hajaar) that gets memed and some of the stuff that's happened in the Ukraine/Russia conflict. The ranks of these groups aren't filled with quality people and without a good leader, you end up with soldiers making stupid decisions.The forest stuff in particular is really grating and unnatural, like theater kids cosplaying as dumb, impulsive partisans. But I will continue.
Strange start, i like Andor as it was a gritty and realistic show in the Star Wars universe, he should be dead after 10 mins lol, what kind of escape plan includes not knowing how to fly a Tie Fighter but magically surviving every one of the many mishaps lol.
- The rape scene is powerful, but the Imperial officer is so unbelievably stupid that it kills the credibility of the moment.
The forest stuff in particular is really grating and unnatural, like theater kids cosplaying as dumb, impulsive partisans. But I will continue.
You misread my post in between writing that wall of text apologia.They're supposed to come across as dumb and impulsive partisans. It's exactly what they're going for here. They were literally playing rock paper, scissors for leadership... All it took was some inexperienced morons to be separated from their leadership and a couple days without food for them to start killing each other.
Nah, that wasn't conveyed well in the opening scene, it was all over the place, he even says later he doesn't know how to fly it, he should have some understanding of the basics anyway if he is that good of a pilot, and he banged it up all over the joint, sorry mate i don't see it your way.This is a major misunderstanding based on not paying enough attention.
- Andor is a great pilot
- Andor DID train to fly what was likely a Tie Fighter
- This wasn't a Tie Fighter it was a Tie Interceptor
- Not only was it not the right ship but seemingly the controls weren't configured properly
- He didn't magically survive, he taught himself how to fly it again because he is an excellent pilot and he has a knack for survival as we've seen throughout the show (up until he runs out of luck in Rogue One)
- He has way more firepower than the stormtroopers in the hangar bay
- He has more speed than the Tie Fighters in pursuit of him, heavier armament, and again is the better pilot
I really liked the first 3 episodes. It's a show that's just as much about political intrigue as it is any sort of action.
The stuff with Mon Mothma was meant to show the side of the elite getting involved in this rebellion and I thought it was handled really well. They are at her kid's wedding because she got involved with that scoundrel and promised away her son to support the rebellion. It's about what she sacrificed for the cause, despite living a posh life. Things are unravelling around her hence why they have her do the weird dancing at the end, I think it was meant to be symbolic as well with how everyone was sort of crowding her (walls closing in.)
The rebels that Andor was dealing with were somewhat of a weak point but a lot of that is just slightly goofy acting; the "point" likely was that groups of rebels are not going to be cohesive and are going to involve a whole lot of people that don't know WTF they are doing, and are likely to turn on each other. Their sacrifice is to starve and probably die.
You had the elites at the top, you had those idiots at the bottom, and then the more organized but still at peril rebels hiding on the farms who are destined to be actually effective soldiers/leaders sandwiched between. And of course we saw the literal sacrifice of one of their own.
You misread my post in between writing that wall of text apologia.
Nah, that wasn't conveyed well in the opening scene, it was all over the place, he even says later he doesn't know how to fly it, he should have some understanding of the basics anyway if he is that good of a pilot, and he banged it up all over the joint, sorry mate i don't see it your way.
Disagree, it wasn't for me.What did I misread? You said it was grating and unnatural acting, but I felt it conveyed what they were going for properly.
There is a pilot among the Maya Pei Brigade who under no pressure and plenty of time can't even get the ship up... She says "It's all new and none of it makes sense"
You later see Andor rewiring the ship to reconfigure it when he sets off the thrusters in the middle of space.
You said it wasn't conveyed well in the opening scene, yet it was... the second he gets inside the ship, he has a wtf look on his face, looks at the controls and is trying to engage with it, when random things start happening, and immediately after trying to engage it he flys backwards when trying to forwards...
It would be like saying he should know the basics when the basics are beyond reversed...
He specifically says its not the ship he was trained to fly and asks if she knew that or if anyone knew that. This is to tell us how difficult it is to get information across in secrecy. He said he has been upside down for two days while he reconfigured the flight controls. Once he cuts the line we see him flying without much issue.
Disagree, it wasn't for me.
What did I misread? You said it was grating and unnatural acting, but I felt it conveyed what they were going for properly.
That opening scene was bad, it looked like he had never flown anything ever and crashed all over the Hangar so it should of blown up, 5 minutes later he is out manouvering 2 ships easily and flying like Han Solo then later when contacting the agent he says he can't fly it,It's one thing to say it wasn't for you, but what exactly are you disagreeing with?
Everything I said, happened in the show... There's an orgy of evidence conveying what this ship is and what was wrong with it and his plan to fly it out of there.
It was a prototype test ship that wasn't even ready to be flown.
Me: "The forest stuff in particular is really grating and unnatural, like theater kids cosplaying as dumb, impulsive partisans."
You: "They're supposed to come across as dumb and impulsive partisans. It's exactly what they're going for here. "
The point is that it was a poorly realized and unnatural attempt by people who were acting more like theater kids doing cosplay, not that there's a problem with the concept of being dumb, impulsive partisans, the latter of which is plainly the intent of the scenes.
Three walls of text in 21 minutes attacking everyone for not understanding anything. The only person in here not understanding anything is you.
That opening scene was bad, it looked like he had never flown anything ever and crashed all over the Hangar so it should of blown up, 5 minutes later he is out manouvering 2 ships easily and flying like Han Solo then later when contacting the agent he says he can't fly it,
The Forest scenes weren't good and seemed written by amateurs and i have no idea what is supposed to be happening during this damn party, i'm not liking what i've seen so far and think it's no where near as good as season 1, you can like it all you want but at the minute i don't.