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DanielPlainview said:
wow, awesome. I'm due for my NE2 upgrade. $149 is a steal. Anyone know how much it will be for data plan per month?
$29.99 for limited data and $44.99 for full fledged data. :lol
 
Just out of curiosity is there an affordable Android in Europe? I don't use the phone a lot, I'm more interested in it as an accesory for browsing YouTube and watching videos rather than making calls. I think I'd perhaps be better served by an iPod touch or even a netbook but I thought I'd check to see how the low-end Androids are.
 
Bad_Boy said:
Word around howard forums, this phone (droid that is) is going for...

$579 Full Retail
$299 w/ new 2yr contract
$149 w/ NE2 & rebate

Makes me sad my contract doesn't come up till next year. :'( And I'll be coughing up 300 bones for a new contract on this phone. Would of loved that NE2 price.
And sold!
 
As an Alltel customer, and abducted into Verizon, do I get any special treatment regarding a phone upgrade? Supposedly NE2 on my profile says I can in September. That's basically a year out. Fuckin' sucks.

*throws Samsung Delve in garbage*
 
Visualante said:
Just out of curiosity is there an affordable Android in Europe? I don't use the phone a lot, I'm more interested in it as an accesory for browsing YouTube and watching videos rather than making calls. I think I'd perhaps be better served by an iPod touch or even a netbook but I thought I'd check to see how the low-end Androids are.

The T-Mobile Pulse is pay-as-you-go. The HTC Magic can't be too expensive, either.
 
Bad_Boy said:
Word around howard forums, this phone (droid that is) is going for...

$579 Full Retail
$299 w/ new 2yr contract
$149 w/ NE2 & rebate

Makes me sad my contract doesn't come up till next year. :'( And I'll be coughing up 300 bones for a new contract on this phone. Would of loved that NE2 price.

Amazing price if true! It's kind of sad, but I've been sitting on my NE2 for about a year and a half now. I could never pull the trigger on a phone. This could be the one.
 
Kapsama said:
$29.99 for limited data and $44.99 for full fledged data. :lol

Not sure exactly what you are referring to here, then again, I might be a tad ignorant to smart phones. My verizon bill says I pay $10 a month for my unlimited verizon to verizon messaging, plus 500 additional messages outside the network, and $10 for unlimited internet. To upgrade it would be $10 more. I realize that I only have a crappy EnV, but still, where is your info coming from? Not saying you are wrong, I'm getting a new phone when these come out, so I want to know.
 
nocode said:
Not sure exactly what you are referring to here, then again, I might be a tad ignorant to smart phones. My verizon bill says I pay $10 a month for my unlimited verizon to verizon messaging, plus 500 additional messages outside the network, and $10 for unlimited internet. To upgrade it would be $10 more. I realize that I only have a crappy EnV, but still, where is your info coming from? Not saying you are wrong, I'm getting a new phone when these come out, so I want to know.


I believe hes talking about the smartphone/PDA data plan. on regular phones it should only be 10 a month. I'm not sure where the 50 dollars comes from. I thought there was only one data plan (the 30 dollars). I'll look into it, this is starting to get expensive for me if true. :(



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I think I see what hes talking about.

For unlimited smartphone email
$49.99

but do you really need that with android? I figure thats just for pda's and blackberrys.
 
Bad_Boy said:
I believe hes talking about the smartphone/PDA data plan. on regular phones it should only be 10 a month. I'm not sure where the 44 dollars comes from. I thought there was only one data plan (the 30 dollars). I'll look into it, this is starting to get expensive for me if true. :(

Ah, yeah, I spoke up too soon. Should have figured that since, you know, it's an android thread. Still, I didn't realize that access is that much more than their other plans.
 
nocode said:
Ah, yeah, I spoke up too soon. Should have figured that since, you know, it's an android thread. Still, I didn't realize that access is that much more than their other plans.
Yeah, it's really bullshit honestly.

They basically say for me to have a Droid, 900 minutes + the 5 anyone calling, unlimited texts, unlimited data. I have to get the Nationwide Select plan (80) and the PDA/Smartphone plan to get unlimited data (50).

130 a month for one phone. gahhh :'(

my family plan currently is about 170 for 3 (non smart) phones, unlimited text + web browsing. 3 phones!


edit:
some one please tell me if I'm doing that wrong.
 
Bad_Boy said:
Yeah, it's really bullshit honestly.

They basically say for me to have a Droid, 900 minutes + the 5 anyone calling, unlimited texts, unlimited data. I have to get the Nationwide Select plan (80) and the PDA/Smartphone plan to get unlimited data (50).

130 a month for one phone. gahhh :'(

my family plan currently is about 170 for 3 (non smart) phones, unlimited text + web browsing. 3 phones!


......That would almost double my bill. Hmm, time to look into this more. I knew my plan would bump up in price a little, but that might be too much for me right now. Might have to hold off until early next year.
who am I kidding, I'm taking the plunge day one :lol
 
I am almost positive the 49.99 plan is for connecting to exchange/enterprise services. Almost everyone is fine with the 29.99 plan. That's still unlimited Internet and email. Verizon makes a sneaky move there in the wording.
 
xcrunner529 said:
I am almost positive the 49.99 plan is for connecting to exchange/enterprise services. Almost everyone is fine with the 29.99 plan. That's still unlimited Internet and email. Verizon makes a sneaky move there in the wording.
I see. So what plan do I select for the 900 minutes + any5 WITH unlimited text/data?

Verizon's website is kinda iffy on what to select for a plan with everything.


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Nationwide PDA/Smartphone Nationwide Email & Messaging? 900 minutes being 120 a month? it has unlimted text/pictures/IM but i'm not sure where it says unlimted data.
 
Bad_Boy said:
I see. So what plan do I select for the 900 minutes + any5 WITH unlimited text/data?

Verizon's website is kinda iffy on what to select for a plan with everything.


looks like nationwide connect w/ 900 min, any 5, w/ unlimited text/data is $90.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=planFirst&action=viewPlanList&sortOption=priceSort&typeId=1&subTypeId=72&catId=1750

Is that what you're looking for? Seems to me that I'll be able to keep my $70 plan with the 450 min. That's enough for me b/c almost everyone I call is verizon.

Is the difference coming from our locations? Do they really charge that much more based on your location? I'm in the NYC area and that link is what they give me for prices. Then again, next week when they announce the Droid phones they could change all of this pricing I assume.
 
omg rite said:
But there's no way to get that $150 price if you're starting up with Verizon for the first time with this phone?

(And what are the howard forums?)
sorry just saw your post. I don't think so. I think if you order online you might get that 50 dollar rebate, making it 250 instead of 300.

howard forums, http://howardforums.com/ cell phone community

nocode said:
looks like nationwide connect w/ 900 min, any 5, w/ unlimited text/data is $90.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=planFirst&action=viewPlanList&sortOption=priceSort&typeId=1&subTypeId=72&catId=1750

Is that what you're looking for? Seems to me that I'll be able to keep my $70 plan with the 450 min. That's enough for me b/c almost everyone I call is verizon.
I don't think thats for Smartphones though. If I wanted the same thing it would be 120 I think. Which is where the 30 dollars come from. I think....
 
Bad_Boy said:
I don't think thats for Smartphones though. If I wanted the same thing it would be 120 I think. Which is where the 30 dollars come from.


Their website linked me to that just now when I pretended to be buying a smartphone. Who knows, we'll find out for sure next week I guess.
 
Bad_Boy said:
I see. So what plan do I select for the 900 minutes + any5 WITH unlimited text/data?

Verizon's website is kinda iffy on what to select for a plan with everything.


edit:
Nationwide PDA/Smartphone Nationwide Email & Messaging? 900 minutes being 120 a month? it has unlimted text/pictures/IM but i'm not sure where it says unlimted data.
Get one of the select plans then you're given the option to get the email and web for smartphone 29.99
 
nocode said:
Their website linked me to that just now when I pretended to be buying a smartphone. Who knows, we'll find out for sure next week I guess.
This is what I get when I select a random smartphone. Sorry about the huge picture.
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xcrunner529 said:
Get one of the select plans then you're given the option to get the email and web for smartphone 29.99
I see now, but isnt that the same thing as the plan in the image above?
 
Chojin said:
I'll elaborate when I can, which means after official announcement.

Its hard seeing all the misconceptions.

But I'll say this I'm not super happy with the finalized plans and some details. But like I said I'll explain it in plain english what this is all going to mean after the 25th.

Well, the details of T-Mobile's new plans are officially released now:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...ly-unveils-99-even-more-79-even-more-plus-pl/

Can you clarify what you mean by 'all the misconceptions'? I can't see any difference between this and the leaked details we were discussing.
 
xcrunner529 said:
I am almost positive the 49.99 plan is for connecting to exchange/enterprise services. Almost everyone is fine with the 29.99 plan. That's still unlimited Internet and email. Verizon makes a sneaky move there in the wording.

It's the same thing with AT&T. Corporate customers have a higher base rate ($45 a month), whereas average consumers get charged $30 a month. Usually the only scenario where you have to pay the higher rate as a regular consumer is if your company does not provide a corporate rate but has a hosted blackberry enterprise server that you can connect to. For "regular" smartphones you can get a $30 / month unlimited data plan on either Verizon or AT&T.
 
The new Tmo plans are real good. I configuered a plan with a myTouch for kicks (500 Min, Unltd. Text and Web), and the monthly price was $59.99. I was worried that having an Android or Blackberry phone would tack on another $10 or more, but it didn't. That's fuckawesome for me!

BTW - the 500 min plan includes free mobile-to-mobile and nights and weekends. :D
 
JasonMCG said:
The new Tmo plans are real good. I configuered a plan with a myTouch for kicks (500 Min, Unltd. Text and Web), and the monthly price was $59.99. I was worried that having an Android or Blackberry phone would tack on another $10 or more, but it didn't. That's fuckawesome for me!

BTW - the 500 min plan includes free mobile-to-mobile and nights and weekends. :D
i just went on tmo added a blackberry and it made me add 30 dollars to the cart. you must have found some loophole or i dont know how to use the internet.

Actually doesnt work with the g1 either. You had to add 30 dollars a month on top of 59.99

Try it on the site right now. log out add any smart phone and they make you add money if you want the unlimited web.

If you want a g1 this is what the cheapest available plan was for me

Total due today*

$129.99
Total due monthly**

$69.99
One time activation fee†

$35.00

How do you get 59.99?

Edit:nvm i see it under even more plus but they make you pay full price for the phone.
 
DanielPlainview said:
for those that have Verizon is it $30 a month for unlimited data?

I work there and the answer is yes. On a smartphone, it's $30 extra for data. You can do just voice and then tack on the data price or you can start from Voice plus unlimited texting and add the data on that. Texting is usually $20 on top of voice from what I've seen though there may be isolated cases which I'm not thinking of where it's more or less.

Rur0ni said:
As an Alltel customer, and abducted into Verizon, do I get any special treatment regarding a phone upgrade? Supposedly NE2 on my profile says I can in September. That's basically a year out. Fuckin' sucks.

*throws Samsung Delve in garbage*

Actually, yes. You get a discount for switching over to Verizon or at least you did until the billing conversion (I believe you still do.) It's, I think, $50 off on the first line and $30 thereafter. My job doesn't involve sales though and it may depend on area so I would suggest going into your local store and verifying that.

Kapsama said:
$29.99 for limited data and $44.99 for full fledged data. :lol

Where did you get that information? Unlimited data on a smartphone is $30 normally with Verizon.


Bad_Boy said:
I see. So what plan do I select for the 900 minutes + any5 WITH unlimited text/data?

Verizon's website is kinda iffy on what to select for a plan with everything.


edit:
Nationwide PDA/Smartphone Nationwide Email & Messaging? 900 minutes being 120 a month? it has unlimted text/pictures/IM but i'm not sure where it says unlimted data.

Their plans are pretty simple if you know this: Take any plan with texting or just voice...whatever... and add $30 to it. That's your smartphone price. This is if your looking at your regular plan and wondering how much that smartphone is gonna cost you. Obviously, if you look at the smartphone plans on the website; it's got that cost built in. Also, it's as the other dude said. The smartphone plan includes email for a normal email account. I've never heard of them charging extra for business email. I'll have to look into that.

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ion=priceSort&typeId=3&subTypeId=49&catId=448

•Data Access for Email
 
JasonMCG said:
The new Tmo plans are real good. I configuered a plan with a myTouch for kicks (500 Min, Unltd. Text and Web), and the monthly price was $59.99. I was worried that having an Android or Blackberry phone would tack on another $10 or more, but it didn't. That's fuckawesome for me!

BTW - the 500 min plan includes free mobile-to-mobile and nights and weekends. :D

Wow, that's awesome.

Way better than what I'm getting from AT&T currently for slightly more than that price. D:
 
JasonMCG said:
The new Tmo plans are real good. I configuered a plan with a myTouch for kicks (500 Min, Unltd. Text and Web), and the monthly price was $59.99. I was worried that having an Android or Blackberry phone would tack on another $10 or more, but it didn't. That's fuckawesome for me!

BTW - the 500 min plan includes free mobile-to-mobile and nights and weekends. :D

But you have to pay $350 more for the MyTouch to get that rate since there are no phone subsidies on the discount plan. If you consider it over a 2 year period, it's equivalent to paying $75/month on a standard plan.

If you can get it cheaper on ebay then the price might average out to $70/month.
 
Uh guys I wrote $44.99 not $49.99. Here is what I was referring to:

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And here's what it says about both:

Unlimited Data Usage

Synchronize your mobile PDA or Smartphone to your PC with PDA/Smartphone from Verizon Wireless, providing over-the-air synchronization of e-mail, contacts, calendar, and tasks. Service available within the NationalAccess or, with certain devices, the Mobile Broadband service area.

CDMA Data Roaming

* In the Canadian Broadband and Canadian Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Areas, usage will be charged at a rate of $0.002 per KB or $2.05 per MB.
* In the Mexican Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Area, usage will be charged at a rate of $0.005 per KB or $5.12 per MB.

For more information on roaming in Canada and Mexico, visit verizonwireless.com/naroaming

Additional Terms & Conditions apply
© 2009 Verizon Wireless

Email and Web for Smartphone
Use your PDA/Smartphone for personal email and Web surfing.

* Access up to ten POP3 and IMAP email accounts, including Yahoo!® Mail, AOL® Mail, Windows Live® Hotmail®, and Verizon.net.
* Easy email account setup.
* Unlimited Web Browsing
* Voice Usage: Per your voice calling plan.

Required Equipment
Select CDMA PDA/Smartphone device with Verizon Wireless software required.

CDMA Data Roaming

* In the Canadian Broadband and Canadian Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Areas, usage will be charged at a rate of $0.002 per KB or $2.05 per MB.
* In the Mexican Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Area, usage will be charged at a rate of $0.005 per KB or $5.12 per MB.

For more information on roaming in Canada and Mexico, visit verizonwireless.com/naroaming

The Email and Web for BlackBerry and Email and Web for Smartphone Features are designed for personal, consumer use and are not compatible with some Internet email service offerings or with email applications utilizing BlackBerry Enterprise Server, BlackBerry Desktop Software, Wireless Sync or Wireless Sync Enterprise Server or Good™ Mobile Messaging. These features cannot be used to tether your device to laptops, personal computers or other devices for any purpose other than syncing of data; any other use is not permitted using these features. Service is only available in the National Enhanced Services and Extended National Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Areas.

Palm Centro users will only be able to access up to 8 personal email accounts using VersaMail Personal Edition and will only be able to access Yahoo Basic or Windows Live e–mail accounts through the web browser — User's will have the ability to download a new Email and Web for Smartphone client, available later this year, that supports features listed above including up to 10 POP3/IMAP email accounts, Window's Live, and Yahoo Basic.

Additional Terms & Conditions apply
© 2009 Verizon Wireless
 
tokkun said:
But you have to pay $350 more for the MyTouch to get that rate since there are no phone subsidies on the discount plan. If you consider it over a 2 year period, it's equivalent to paying $75/month on a standard plan.

If you can get it cheaper on ebay then the price might average out to $70/month.
True, but if you have the money to pay the phone off straight-away, you're getting a great price on a great plan.
 
Kapsama said:
Uh guys I wrote $44.99 not $49.99. Here is what I was referring to:

And here's what it says about both:
There's absolutely no reason to get the $44.99 plan unless you want to use it for a business exchange email server, im 99% sure that's the difference. I have the $30 plan for my Blackberry on Verizon and it's unlimited data and email, same thing as any other carriers unlimited data plan.
 
JasonMCG said:
True, but if you have the money to pay the phone off straight-away, you're getting a great price on a great plan.
how do you figure? If you can pay the money now then you can pay the money later :lol
 
Bad_Boy said:
Word around howard forums, this phone (droid that is) is going for...

$579 Full Retail

Ow, my wallet. Selling my Tour would put a nice dent in that, but that's still fairly painful. I guess I'll see what happens with my tax return, if there's anything left over after all my 1040 work is taxed.
 
Kapsama said:
Uh guys I wrote $44.99 not $49.99. Here is what I was referring to:
(snip)

As stated earlier, both plans offer unlimited internet and email. The $49 is for CORPORATE use and connecting to enterprise exchange servers. There is absolutely no reason (unless you're getting reimbursed by your employer) to choose the $49 plan.
 
JasonMCG said:
True, but if you have the money to pay the phone off straight-away, you're getting a great price on a great plan.

uh, or you could pay 59.99 a month on everything plus 500 through sprint, AND have your phone subsidized, on a better (that's vastly more extensive in terms of 3G, to be specific) network.

this plan is dead on arrival and does nothing for Tmobile. Anyone that's concerned about having the best device and coverage is going to go to Verizon for the Droid.

Anyone that wants an android smartphone without shelling out an assload of cash for a plan (either on a monthly basis through verizon, or all up front at once through Tmobile) is going to go for sprint.

As far as I can tell, this only serves to convince tmobile customers who already have smartphones not to leave. It's not going to make any converts.
 
Manmademan said:
uh, or you could pay 59.99 a month on everything plus 500 through sprint, AND have your phone subsidized, on a better (that's vastly more extensive in terms of 3G, to be specific) network.

this plan is dead on arrival and does nothing for Tmobile. Anyone that's concerned about having the best device and coverage is going to go to Verizon for the Droid.

Anyone that wants an android smartphone without shelling out an assload of cash for a plan (either on a monthly basis through verizon, or all up front at once through Tmobile) is going to go for sprint.

As far as I can tell, this only serves to convince tmobile customers who already have smartphones not to leave. It's not going to make any converts.
Good thing about getting the noncontract tmobile plan is that you can bail out after you realize that you are not really getting a deal :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
Vyse The Legend said:
Did anyone pick up the Motorola CLIQ? Is it worth upgrading from the G1 for it?

I didn't have a G1 but I'm digging the hell out of it so far. My only complaint is it sometimes seems a little slippery :o
 
xcrunner529 said:
As stated earlier, both plans offer unlimited internet and email. The $49 is for CORPORATE use and connecting to enterprise exchange servers. There is absolutely no reason (unless you're getting reimbursed by your employer) to choose the $49 plan.
XMonkey said:
There's absolutely no reason to get the $44.99 plan unless you want to use it for a business exchange email server, im 99% sure that's the difference. I have the $30 plan for my Blackberry on Verizon and it's unlimited data and email, same thing as any other carriers unlimited data plan.
lol, I'm glad Verizon isn't that crazy.
 
Kapsama said:
Uh guys I wrote $44.99 not $49.99. Here is what I was referring to:

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And here's what it says about both:

That's a pretty misleading selection by Verizon in my opinion. I've never heard anyone ever offer any customer that higher data plan in the store because as was said it's useless to most people. I can't believe they would call it "Unlimited Data Usage" unless they are trying to get people to opt in on a more expensive plan that will be useless to them. Their stuff seems generally pretty clear cut to me so that seems really weird.

I wonder if that plan includes tethering though? That might actually make it somewhat useful to the common man. It doesn't really say so I'm assuming not.
 
XMonkey said:
There's absolutely no reason to get the $44.99 plan unless you want to use it for a business exchange email server, im 99% sure that's the difference. I have the $30 plan for my Blackberry on Verizon and it's unlimited data and email, same thing as any other carriers unlimited data plan.

I'm pretty sure you can get away with the $30 plan if you're using a hosted exchange account as well too, even if its technically not allowed (just set it up on your own). In general the only areas I've seen them clamp down on is the BES email setup, not quite sure what the deal is there. Although I have heard blackberry is "chatty" for email service.
 
Some discussion on Android vs iPhone
The Problem With iPhone Killers…
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-And I think Google realizes that. While they apparently have had quite a large hand in helping with Droid, it’s Motorola and Verizon that are hyping it big time. But I think Google knows that the Droid isn’t an iPhone killer. Instead, it’s likely the best device they have so far to kill their real competitors: Symbian and especially Windows Mobile. Repeat after me: Android is trying to kill Windows Mobile, not the iPhone.

-Not only is Android open source, but it’s free. Windows Mobile, on the other hand, is still ridiculously charging manufacturers upwards of $25 to use their sub-par OS. Their strategy seems two pronged at this point: 1) Try to leverage the Windows PC brand as much as possible and convince users that Windows Mobile tied to Windows itself create the best environment for mobile. 2) Get out Windows Mobile 7, an entirely new OS, as quickly as possible.

-Let me be clear: I think it’s pretty likely that eventually Android will be bigger than the iPhone worldwide. Again, it’s a different game. It’s monotheist versus the pagans. It’s Mac versus PC. Even if and when Apple breaks its AT&T exclusivity in the U.S. there will still basically be only one device. Android will have dozens of devices. And even more in other parts of the world. But the iPhone will continue to survive and even thrive, just like the Mac is right now.

Also

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X3_3

Hello, gorgeous! What a nice way to wake up on a Friday morning. You roll out of bed to make yourself some eggs, hop online to start the daily rituals, and bam! Shots of the unreleased, unannounced, and Android-powered Sony Ericsson XPERIA X3 are sitting in your inbox.

While this isn’t the first time the X3 has been spotted in the wild, these shots show the hardware in a slightly better light than the previous leak. Also worth mentioning, this is the second time we’ve seen the X3 where it appears to be running the stock Android build, rather than “Rachel“, the custom UI Sony Ericsson is purportedly cracking away at. We’re sort of doubting that Sony Ericsson would just bail on that UI, so we’d wager that it’s just not quite up to snuff yet.

All of our sources are still pointing at a release in early Q1 2010.

Also X2

Leak Brochure for the X10 (AKA X3): Edit: Supposedly bannable. Not sure why...

Edit2: Here is the link then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7jtC6jRzp8
 
No offense, but that techcrunch article is worthless, full of fluff and it doesn't even say why Android isn't trying to kill iPhone.

Leak Brochure for the X10 (AKA X3): Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Brochure Leak

WTF, 32GB internal storage, that won't be cheap. Eh, it could be fake, what's Full 1080p logo doing there.
 
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