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Android Hardware Thread - 2009 Edition

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I bought a HTC magic, MyTouch 3G or whatever the name is here
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and now the delivery group that should have shipped my new sim card yesterday is unresponisble and i cant use my sexy new phone. i really like it based on the looks and the feel. cant wait to check out apps like wikitude (why is there no thread for apps, consumer focused, i only discovered one for developers)
 
Andrex said:
From leaked documents, they're also getting the HTC Desire, which is purported to be a "With Google" phone, so that means it won't have any bad Verizon tinkering holding it back (if that is their strategy with their Android handsets.)

You've made my week! I hope this is true. Please Verizon! Get with the program and let people have cool phones and OS's!
 
Ludi said:
why is there no thread for apps, consumer focused, i only discovered one for developers

Ah well I was gonna make one when my I got my own MyTouch but that has yet to happen...

I'll try and put it together soon, though. No worries. :)
 
CaptainStrong said:
Are we to assume big red will require a data plan with the Sholes? What would that run for a single phone plan....30 bucks?

On a related note:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Mor...ltimedia-Phone-Data-Plans-article-a_6677.html

Which sucks...god I wish ATT was getting a decent Anroid phone soon.

I wish they were too...but ATT has shown that they despise Android, due to their lack of support. Other carriers are on the 2nd or 3rd Android set, and ATT can barely get one. It's a shame really. At least there's the unlocked option.
 
If the Morrison (presumably being announced at the Moto Android event on Sept. 10th) doesn't impress, I think I'm going to buckle and get the MyTouch (...sigh).

Any MyTouch/Magic/Ion users here care to comment on the quality and personal review of the phone? For reference, I previously had a G1 - didn't care for it and returned it (almost exclusively due to size). I don't really care for the MyTouch, by my Razr is slowly dying and I need something new.
 
JasonMCG said:
For reference, I previously had a G1 - didn't care for it and returned it (almost exclusively due to size).

Is the G1 bigger than most smartphones? I feel like I'm going to miss my Rzr slipping into my pocket once I get a new phone.
 
CaptainStrong said:
Is it generally assumed that the Sholes is the best android phone coming to the states? I read on phonearena that Verizon won't be at this Motorola event in September. Wouldn't you think they would attend this press conference if the Sholes is suppose to be the big iphone competitor?
are you guys getting the SE Rachel? That thing looks like all kinds of hawt
 
Fatalah said:
Is the G1 bigger than most smartphones? I feel like I'm going to miss my Rzr slipping into my pocket once I get a new phone.
That's my biggest worry. And yeah, the G1 was/is a brick.
 
Looks like I'll have to update the front page soon. :D

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http://www.sprint.com/hero

  • Release: October 11, 2009
  • Price: $179 (After $50 instant savings + $100 mail-in rebate + 2-year service)

T-Mobile UK is also getting a sexy new handset in October.

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  • Release: October
  • Price: £179.99 ($295 USD)
  • Pay as You Go (No Contracts!)

For those out of the loop, this once was the iPhone knockoff behind glass at the Mobile World Congress in February. It then appeared in China as the Huawei 8220.

The specs are impressive: 3.5" HVGA touch screen, 3.2 mp camera with autofocus, SD card slot, 2GB internal memory, Wi-Fi, GPS, and a trackball. This might be the "win phone" chojin was hinting at for T-Mobile USA, hopefully.
 
Why isnt there more slide out keyboard android phones? I would love a HTC Hero inspired (minus the "chin") phone with a slide out keyboard :(
 
The chin is necessary. HTC said they keep the chin since it defines their Android line from their WinMo line. Plus, I like it.
 
tokkun said:
GhostRidah said:
any news on a andriod sprint phone?
The Hero and InstinctQ are both rumored for early October.

That's gotta be good news for Sprint and their customers. It appears the Palm Pre, and maybe even Palm itself, are nearing inconsequential status, or perhaps even death:

Town Hall Investment Research analyst David Eller asserted in a research note this morning that sales of the Pre “are continuing to slow,” and “likely will come in dramatically below” Sprint’s (S) reputed target of 1 million to 1.5 million customers for the year. Eller now sees the company selling 416,000 units in the August quarter overall, down from a previous estimate of 488,000. For the November quarter, Eller expects the company to ship 785,000 units.

Ouch. The Pre did nothing to curb the iPhone. It just moved a few customers around, most of whom were already in the Sprint system.

Sprint needs a product people can really be excited about, and the Pre obviously didn't sell up to hype. They run enough ads for the thing...but I guess ad buys weren't enough.

And worse yet, the popular theory in the investment community--that WebOS would at least be good for generating interest for a Palm buyout/takeover/merger from/with another player doesn't seem to be as likely as it once was either:

Eller adds that “with the Palm’s fade,” takeover talk is also likely to evaporate. As the world realizes that the WebOS is “good but not mature enough for developers,” he adds, “Palm’s strategic value to potential acquirers diminishes.”

Double ouch.

This is far from the first analyst starting to murmur that all is not well in Pre Land. I liked some things about the Pre too, but think it's pretty clear that Palm just didn't shoot far enough, especially in terms of supporting the app development community (reports of the shortcomings of the first SDK were rampant) and this is one area where Android as a platform is really exciting.

I'm so glad Android is really starting to roll with some better hardware now. I'm a happy iPhone customer, but we need the competition in the market. I don't worry about Apple being complacent, (they never were with an 80% iPod marketshare,) but I absolutely fear what AT&T would do if they had no one nipping at their heels.
 
Not feeling the chinless redesign... it's so bland now! Still liking the phone in terms of features, but this does put a damper on my enthusiasm.
 
Welp, I think my Pre is goin up on eBay in a month, I really do like it, but I want a bigger screen and that Sprint Hero is sexy. I'll have to wait and see what they (the Hero) sell for on eBay first though...I'm technically eligible to upgrade, but with the plan I have with Sprint no one (including Best Buy where I work) will sell me a phone for the contract price :lol
 
Skittleguy said:
It just looks like the Magic with a redesigned button layout (further proof that they are the same phone).
they are the same phone essentially. The hero has more ram, bigger camera, but other than that, they are identical hardware wise. Software wise of course it's running the nicer senseUI, but yeah, hardware wise all the current android phones are identical except for ram/camera. That goes for the samsung as well at this stage, identical processor and everything

poll for the chin/no-chin
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/09/03/hero-vs-hero-to-chin-or-not-to-chin-which-is-better/
 
santouras said:
they are the same phone essentially. The hero has more ram, bigger camera, but other than that, they are identical hardware wise. Software wise of course it's running the nicer senseUI, but yeah, hardware wise all the current android phones are identical except for ram/camera. That goes for the samsung as well at this stage, identical processor and everything
Canadians lucked out with the Magic, since ours is 32A, making it the same as the Hero in pretty much every sense (except the Bluetooth radio).
 
Husker86 said:
Welp, I think my Pre is goin up on eBay in a month, I really do like it, but I want a bigger screen and that Sprint Hero is sexy. I'll have to wait and see what they (the Hero) sell for on eBay first though...I'm technically eligible to upgrade, but with the plan I have with Sprint no one (including Best Buy where I work) will sell me a phone for the contract price :lol


Isn't the Hero's screen the same size as the the Pre's?
 
BrassMonkey1010 said:
Isn't the Hero's screen the same size as the the Pre's?
I think the Hero's screen is taller, though .1 inch doesn't sound like much. I have yet to see an android phone in person so I'll definitely have to play around with it before I make my final decision of course.
 
Pristine_Condition said:
That's gotta be good news for Sprint and their customers. It appears the Palm Pre, and maybe even Palm itself, are nearing inconsequential status, or perhaps even death:



Ouch. The Pre did nothing to curb the iPhone. It just moved a few customers around, most of whom were already in the Sprint system.

Sprint needs a product people can really be excited about, and the Pre obviously didn't sell up to hype. They run enough ads for the thing...but I guess ad buys weren't enough.

And worse yet, the popular theory in the investment community--that WebOS would at least be good for generating interest for a Palm buyout/takeover/merger from/with another player doesn't seem to be as likely as it once was either:



Double ouch.

This is far from the first analyst starting to murmur that all is not well in Pre Land. I liked some things about the Pre too, but think it's pretty clear that Palm just didn't shoot far enough, especially in terms of supporting the app development community (reports of the shortcomings of the first SDK were rampant) and this is one area where Android as a platform is really exciting.

I'm so glad Android is really starting to roll with some better hardware now. I'm a happy iPhone customer, but we need the competition in the market. I don't worry about Apple being complacent, (they never were with an 80% iPod marketshare,) but I absolutely fear what AT&T would do if they had no one nipping at their heels.

Palm made a few big missteps with WebOS that I spotted from the beginning. While their focus on eye candy and social networking netted it much more press than an Android device has gotten so far, it was only a distraction so people wouldn't realize that Palm has no clue how to work with developers (anymore.) Their biggest mistake was was trying to minimize the impact developers could have on a fledgling new platform, and is the direct opposite of Google's approach with Android.

Almost a year before an Android device hit, there was an SDK for it. And not "just" an SDK, either, what they released in November 2007 was astoundingly mature (even if the OS itself wasn't at the time.) The sheer depth and scope of the included examples, documentation, and emulator is truly remarkable for an "early peek"- and it was all cross-platform. I still have incredible respect for the emulator in particular; this application single-handedly runs the entire phone stack right on your PC, and links up with the SDK to run tests of your apps. Google, in simple terms, nailed it.

And now Google's reaping the rewards. Something I think most people missed was the amount of apps for each platform in the pic I posted.

Right now, Android has 8,000 apps. Eight thousand. When the MyTouch 3G launched less than a month ago, T-Mobile pegged that number at around 6,300. This is incredible growth and will shift the market in Android's favor in respect to WebOS.

As for the dragon in the room I haven't mentioned- yes, the iPhone is still wildly ahead right now. But I have my own reasons to believe it will be slain eventually.

PS- Even though the Pre got tons of commercials, they all sucked. No getting around it. Fake Steve put it best:

The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs said:
You know there's an old saying (it's either Steve Martin or Sun Tzu, I can never remember) that goes, "When your opponent is committing suicide, get out of his way." That's how we feel about these Pre ads. They're so bad that the ad guy who created them is being grilled by Advertising Age and is defending them by saying, in effect, that yes they are terrible, but that's a good thing, because now everyone is talking about the Palm Pre. I'd like to be a fly on the wall when he's sitting in a conference room using that line on Ruby and trying to get paid. I used to think that the Borg's advertising could never be outdone. But you know what? Ruby & Co. have done it. Well done, Ruby. Well done.
 
Boo, the redesign of the Hero seems pointless. I really liked the original design, the new one seems extremely generic. Still a great phone in terms of features though. I might have to bite when it's released.
 
Finally a PAYG Android phone, and it doesn't look too bad either.
 
catfish said:
hmmm

girlfriend just got an htc hero on Vodafone Netherlands.

No SMS seem to arrive at all, she can send, but no notifications, nothing.

a thread about the issue that seems to affect people from diff networks

http://androidforums.com/htc-hero/8155-do-not-receive-100-my-texts-htc-hero.html

Quoting myself seems wrong but for anyone that has run into this issue, here's the response (the QUICK response) I received from HTC about the problem.

Thank you for contacting HTC Europe.

We are currently investigating missing SMS on the HTC Hero but have no fix yet.

However, you problem appears to be something more comprehensive. Receiving no SMS is far more extreme than the issues other customers are having with their devices; the issue they face is that a small percentage of texts do not arrive.

Does your SIM card work correctly? Is it a new SIM that you received with your Hero, or is it an old one that you have used before? Is Vodafone able to assist, for example see if the texts are being filtered via their systems?

If all else fails, a hard reset may assist.

Please feedback anything you feel pertinent.

Kind Regards,
Perry
HTC Europe

confirmed issue.
 
Price: $179 (After $50 instant savings + $100 mail-in rebate + 2-year service)

So 179+50+100+150? = 479 no contract? I want the phone on my company plan but ill have to buy it outright. 479 should be the retail price, but ill ask my sprint rep tomorrow.
 
sooperkool said:
You can PAYG with a G1.. its what I'm doing right now. I think you can PAYG with any T-mobile phone.

Where did you get it? Did you just put a PAYG sim in it?
 
Some bits floating around the internet right now:

- Best Buy is offering the HTC Hero for Sprint at $180 with two-year contract, no annoying mail-in rebates.

- Boy Genius Report has just released some more "live" shots of the Motorola Sholes for Verizon, hinting that it may debut at the upcoming Mobilize Conference after all.

- The HTC Touch HD 2 is now rumored to be the Touch HD 1 hardware running Android. Holy crap awesome. That's 3.8 inches of screen, a 480×800 WVGA resolution, 628mHz processor, and thus almost certainly a lag-free HTC Sense UI overlay.
 
Damn, I knew I shouldn't have jumped on the Pre and waited, the Hero looks really cool!! Maybe I should just ebay the Pre or something.
 
Andrex said:
Some bits floating around the internet right now:

- Best Buy is offering the HTC Hero for Sprint at $180 with two-year contract, no annoying mail-in rebates.

- Boy Genius Report has just released some more "live" shots of the Motorola Sholes for Verizon, hinting that it may debut at the upcoming Mobilize Conference after all.

- The HTC Touch HD 2 is now rumored to be the Touch HD 1 hardware running Android. Holy crap awesome. That's 3.8 inches of screen, a 480×800 WVGA resolution, 628mHz processor, and thus almost certainly a lag-free HTC Sense UI overlay.

OMG. If they made a Touch HD with Android I will have a very tough decision to make.
 
Well, I will probably buy the Hero iff it is supported on SERO. Unfortunately Sprint is sending out a lot of mixed messages on the subject. If it is not supported I may have to pick up one of the WinMo devices instead.
 
Hey guys, I've been on and off looking at this thread. I'm been done with contract with At&t for a while now, paying monthly with an old bad phone. I'm itching for a good android phone. I'm thinking of switching to verizon for the service, and am loving my friends new Blackberry on his plan.

Anything good in android coming up for verizon soon? Do I have to wait for the Android show to find out? I saw pictures of the Shole phone, but don't really like the look. I would rather have one that looks like an HTC or Pre, preferrably with a trackball and slide down keyboard. Thanks.
 
I am at a crossroads and need advice:

Option1: Buy an iPhone. I can pay $400 and re-up for 2yrs with AT&T, or $500 and no contract. I don't qualify for the low-price upgrade until January, and I honestly don't want to extend my contract. I wish to switch to T-Mobile in the future.

Option2: Cancel my contract with AT&T for $100-something and switch to T-Mobile. Put the extra $300 into an Android phone and hope it can satisfy me the same as my iPhone.

What should I do? Web, Shazam and Facebook are probably the most-important features. Wireless router features (like PDAnet) and GPS are the second-most important features. The iPhone was fantastic. Is there anything on its level. I liked my friend's myTouch, but I'm still skeptical. Gimme some advice, folks. My old SE W810i isn't cutting it anymore. PEACE.
 
Mr. E. Yis said:
Hey guys, I've been on and off looking at this thread. I'm been done with contract with At&t for a while now, paying monthly with an old bad phone. I'm itching for a good android phone. I'm thinking of switching to verizon for the service, and am loving my friends new Blackberry on his plan.

Anything good in android coming up for verizon soon? Do I have to wait for the Android show to find out? I saw pictures of the Shole phone, but don't really like the look. I would rather have one that looks like an HTC or Pre, preferrably with a trackball and slide down keyboard. Thanks.

Verizon is the biggest question mark next to AT&T right now. We know that they're probably getting the Sholes, and a while ago the Calgary (see OP) was leaked, but that's it. If you agree with the form factor then the Calgary will probably be for your bet if you like keyboard's but not the Sholes.

On the other hand, the Sholes is looking to be a very high-end phone, so you may want to just stomach the design.
 
Pimpwerx said:
I am at a crossroads and need advice:

Option1: Buy an iPhone. I can pay $400 and re-up for 2yrs with AT&T, or $500 and no contract. I don't qualify for the low-price upgrade until January, and I honestly don't want to extend my contract. I wish to switch to T-Mobile in the future.

Option2: Cancel my contract with AT&T for $100-something and switch to T-Mobile. Put the extra $300 into an Android phone and hope it can satisfy me the same as my iPhone.

What should I do? Web, Shazam and Facebook are probably the most-important features. Wireless router features (like PDAnet) and GPS are the second-most important features. The iPhone was fantastic. Is there anything on its level. I liked my friend's myTouch, but I'm still skeptical. Gimme some advice, folks. My old SE W810i isn't cutting it anymore. PEACE.

Well since this is an Android thread I'm gonna recommend that. The MyTouch running 1.5 achieves feature-parity with the iPhone, however there are still some caveats. It doesn't have as much polish overall as the iPhone (yet), and the Android Market has about 11% as many apps as the App Store (though this gap is closing, slowly.) The things you mentioned, Web, Shazam, Facebook, PDAnet and GPS are all there. Some may even have homescreen widgets so you don't need to constantly open and close apps- just turn the screen on and bam, instant info.

* post loaded with a healthy dosing of fanboyism, but also includes distilled truth
 
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