-Pyromaniac-
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how it should be. I'm blown away at the battery life the iphone 5 gets with that tiny ass battery.
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zomgbbqftw
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Yeah, it will open up a Qualcomm vs non-Qualcomm gap within Android next year though.
OriginalThinking
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Link?
-Pyromaniac-
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ah yes, just what android needed, even more fragmentation
Seriously though, what's the selling point of the HTC One now? That it looks purdy? I'd say the screen but lets face it, a casual person walking into a store will be attracted to the saturation of a galaxy phone. I want them to do well though. Just won't be supporting the cause!
cuevas. PhD.
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Meh.
That one sure does look tempting. I guess I can stick with this stupid 4s till the X announcement.
That one sure does look tempting. I guess I can stick with this stupid 4s till the X announcement.
zomgbbqftw
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It was in a Qualcomm press release a few weeks back.
ah yes, just what android needed, even more fragmentation
Seriously though, what's the selling point of the HTC One now? That it looks purdy? I'd say the screen but lets face it, a casual person walking into a store will be attracted to the saturation of a galaxy phone. I want them to do well though. Just won't be supporting the cause!
Literally nothing for the One. Sony can still push the waterproof angle with the Z, also the fact that it is available to buy today while the GS4 and One are not. I don't see where HTC go from here with a bigger phone and a smaller screen.
The idea that Samsung wants to get rid of android is so ridiculous. Why would they give up an amazing free software stack they don't have to worry about developing?
Its clear that they want to build a system on top of it for consumption and not to replace it.
Them going deeper into the skinning for the settings just means they're entrenching themselves even further into reliance.
Its clear that they want to build a system on top of it for consumption and not to replace it.
Them going deeper into the skinning for the settings just means they're entrenching themselves even further into reliance.
OriginalThinking
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I've had a look but other than a Qualcomm leak that a new version of Android is coming (no surprise there) i haven't seen anything mentioning kernel level battery monitoring.
-Pyromaniac-
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that AND samsung will flood them with marketing soon that they can't just afford to compete with. Ah well. Their fault they got into this place. No sympathy.
Sony has a few angles, waterproof with the Z, compact superphone with the ZL, etc...
zomgbbqftw
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I'm pretty sure they had some big fanfare about battery stuff recently, possibly at MWC. I'll look up tomorrow at work.
The Faceless Master
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ah yes, just what android needed, even more fragmentation
Seriously though, what's the selling point of the HTC One now? That it looks purdy? I'd say the screen but lets face it, a casual person walking into a store will be attracted to the saturation of a galaxy phone. I want them to do well though. Just won't be supporting the cause!
BEATS AUDIO! BEST SPEAKERS ON A CELLPHONE! YEAAA BOYEEE!!!
-Pyromaniac-
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BOOOOOMSOUNDDDD lol
The Faceless Master
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exactly, they get Android for free and they can stack on top and siphon some money away from Google Play with Samsung Hub. why would they leave that situation?
My ridiculous idea pretty much stems (maybe illogically) from the precedent set with current free solutions. They have quite a bit of work done for them in the way of GAPPS and whatever falls under that umbrella, so them going out of their way to create new solutions for problems that may not even exist feels like baby steps towards full independence.
I'd like to think Samsung is bigger, more capable than Amazon, so maybe not leaving android all together, but rather creating their own portal for the APKs that do exist and being successful at it. Would people really care WHERE they get their apps from?
The Faceless Master
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get Flavor Flav to do the commercials and cut the checks.
So you forgot about Dre
Anyway, I'm not sure which way to lean. I like the S4, but I think I want a red ZL. It's unique, and I like Sony's aesthetic.
But honestly, I like the Optimus G Pro too...hrm
Even better if the phone is hanging off his neck chain.
-Pyromaniac-
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hell no on the G pro, get a ZL or S4 mang.
The Faceless Master
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i don't think you get it yet. Samsung isn't HTC or Sony. Samsung makes good phones, not bad phones that are good looking. even the Z took an L.
if those are the choices, G Pro.
only issue is the screen really. everyone is using SD600 so they win on that model and Exynos 5410 is supposed to be more power efficient so they would win
well, it has to wait for the double tap so unless they change the motion to something else...
Hey at least when Samsung ditches Android, they'd only have each other to compete with :-D
Is this, like, the new breed of "sheep"?
Whiteshirt
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Yeah, I don't really understand that comment either except in a console warrior sort of way. The HTC One and Sony ZL are perfectly fine phones with nice physical designs when I last checked.
I actually want to see the screen...to see whether or not Samsung has put a bit more effort into the calibration this time round. I don't really care about the resolution so it has to be remarkably better than the Galaxy S3 for me to ditch the S3 I have right now. A shame because OLED screens can look great but Samsung has a tendency to put the least amount of care into them.
I actually want to see the screen...to see whether or not Samsung has put a bit more effort into the calibration this time round. I don't really care about the resolution so it has to be remarkably better than the Galaxy S3 for me to ditch the S3 I have right now. A shame because OLED screens can look great but Samsung has a tendency to put the least amount of care into them.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Solid phone from Sammy, but nothing crazy.
Honestly considering KLP hasn't hit yet most of these new crop of phones are just shipping with souped up skins based on the Android we all are have. Last year was more exciting because all of the new phones were hitting with ICS which not only was a big jump for Android, but unless you had a Galaxy Nexus you'd never experienced ICS before.
That being said I'll be really interested to see how this years batch of phones morph over time when updates especially after KLP releases. I'm also interested to see what phones end up becoming the cheap baseline phones after the next batch release. I know a lot of places still try and sell the GSII on the cheap low. That would be a massive step up if the GSIII replaces the GSII and the GSIV takes the place of the GSIII. Ditto if say the One X becomes a baseline phone as well.
PS: I noticed both the Chrome Beta and the Opera Beta updated this evening. Haven't had the time to try out either as I bailed as soon as I saw the GS4 looked like the leaks to go hang with my friends.
Honestly considering KLP hasn't hit yet most of these new crop of phones are just shipping with souped up skins based on the Android we all are have. Last year was more exciting because all of the new phones were hitting with ICS which not only was a big jump for Android, but unless you had a Galaxy Nexus you'd never experienced ICS before.
That being said I'll be really interested to see how this years batch of phones morph over time when updates especially after KLP releases. I'm also interested to see what phones end up becoming the cheap baseline phones after the next batch release. I know a lot of places still try and sell the GSII on the cheap low. That would be a massive step up if the GSIII replaces the GSII and the GSIV takes the place of the GSIII. Ditto if say the One X becomes a baseline phone as well.
PS: I noticed both the Chrome Beta and the Opera Beta updated this evening. Haven't had the time to try out either as I bailed as soon as I saw the GS4 looked like the leaks to go hang with my friends.
-Pyromaniac-
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That's assuming KLP is a significant upgrade, which might not be the case.
The Faceless Master
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you haven't heard the term 'samsheep' yet?
a bit more effort? their Note 2 calibration was great!
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
True though I figure at the least we should get some app upgrades since it seems Google is holding off on those to show off with KLP even if they might not be part of KLP proper.
You have now entered..... The Andrex zone.......
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
BTW I've heard different info on this.
Is the GS4 screen Pentile or not? I'm inclined to usually listen to the Verge, and they say it's Pentile.
Is the GS4 screen Pentile or not? I'm inclined to usually listen to the Verge, and they say it's Pentile.
All signs point to yes it is.
ThatObviousUser
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LOL Samsung?
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
So the latest Chrome Beta seems to run alright on my system. Doesn't seem to have the shitty scrolling issue the current stable version has on my device.
Still think the Opera Beta is faster though.
Still think the Opera Beta is faster though.
-Pyromaniac-
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Still hoping Google is keeping some surprise chrome update for i/o.
The people that insists they can flip a switch and just jump off of Android at no personal loss are insane IMO. We had a damn near uprising when iPhones merely lost Google Map and a Youtube app worldwide. Trying to branch out without customers being able to bring their GMaps, Youtube, Gmail apps and all the apps they bought on their Previous galaxy phones, all the movies books and whatnot they bought on their previous Galaxy Tablets over to a new Tizen OS thats starting with a barren Appstore and ecosystem?
It would be a catastrophe of hilarious proportions and it would nuke the product line while everyone else moved over to whatever the next best Android phone was/is at that time.
Unknown Soldier
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It's easy to have amazing battery life without multitasking.
-Pyromaniac-
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Even still. It's a tiny ass battery. Even when you're browsing the web or anything it lasts pretty long for it.
Unknown Soldier
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The "race to idle" is very significant here. The phone is doing nothing 99% of the time when web browsing. Remember that Apple controls everything that happens in the OS with an iron fist, when the iP5 is browsing the web, it is literally doing NOTHING while the user is reading the page, then it does something for the split second the user scrolls, then it's doing nothing again. Meanwhile an Android device is doing all kinds of shit in the background even when the user is just looking at a web page because the Android device actually allows apps to run in the background.
Battersea Power Station
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Can you explain the difference to the user between when Android does it and when iOS does it? I don't own an iPhone, but from my wife's iPad, I know iOS can still get push notifications even when you're doing nothing. So what's the advantage of handling the idling like Android does?
Is the only difference being able to run constantly on apps like Lookout or something? If that's it, I'd gladly make the trade for better battery life (I also can't stand anything permanently in my notification bar).
So how noticeable will the pentile arrangement be on a screen as pixel dense as this? I'd say it's quite noticable on an S3, but this seems so high res that it shouldn't be a problem. I hope. Think. Maybe?
Sqrt_minus_one
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It's pentile there was a preview posted by some korean site - Engadget carried it and it was quite extensive with a close up macro of the screen and confirmation of pentile. About 6 hours before the announcement.
My $0.02 - Pentile has never really bothred me to be honest.
zomgbbqftw
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They say this every time about pentile, and every time it's shit.
Wait for the Note 3, that will have a proper arrangement. Or wait for them to run out of OLED screens and then get an LCD version!
Oh for fucks sake Cipherr, you hate it yourself when your arguments are misconstrued. At least quote the only guy saying this batshit theory (me) and recognize I'm not saying anything about simply flipping a switch.
I'm still probably wrong, but let's at least get the idea across in tact. Danke.
Yeah, whenever I handle my girlfriend's S3 it just gets super noticeable, especially after looking at an N4 screen all day. Just figured that because it's so dense it might not be as noticeable, gonna have to wait 'til I can get hands on in some way.
But I'd say more than that Samsung's oversaturation is what gets me the most. So I'm all for a Note 3 with an LCD!
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
So I told myself I was going to wait till 2013 to get a tablet. Well 2013 is here and note I am really in the mood to get one.
Just wish time would speed up so we can get to this years crop as I'm not gonna buy last year's model at this point (unless it was a super deal). The wait seems sooo long for new tablets though.
Just wish time would speed up so we can get to this years crop as I'm not gonna buy last year's model at this point (unless it was a super deal). The wait seems sooo long for new tablets though.
zomgbbqftw
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So someone just brought a GS4 in from a mate he has at Samsung UK. Had a bit of play around. It feels nice to hold, the plastic still feels cheap, but it is so light because of that, just like GS3, I barely noticed the size because it is so light and slim. We compared it to an Xperia Z someone had, it's smaller, the screen has a blue tint to it and with fine text Pentile annoyed me and a few people, but others didn't notice. Otherwise the colours and contrast on the new screen are literally amazing, I mean absolutely stunning, yes they are a bit overblown and yes there is some black crush, but the effect is amazing. Samsung have built one hell of a screen.
Onto the software, well, it's very stuttery, everything takes a few seconds while it is thinking about what to do. Never seen that on the GS3, it could be because of the octacore processor figuring out which core is more suited to the task, but that shouldn't take so long so I figure Samsung just haven't optimised 4.2.2 properly yet. For that reason I think Samsung definitely showed the GS4 much earlier than they would have liked, it is releasing, what two weeks earlier than GS3, but they showed it 6 weeks in advance? That makes no sense, I think Samsung are pretty worried about Xperia Z in Asia and Europe, it is eating into GS4 sales quite heavily at this point. It's the only way to explain just how unpolished the software is, it stops to think so much, and I'm 100% sure this won't be the case for the final release and it is just an optimisation issue, it makes me think they let it out too early. Earlier than they would have liked, that's for sure.
His contact at Samsung mentioned stock for the first month is going to be quite tight so pre-order if you want a guaranteed delivery in April/May.
Onto the software, well, it's very stuttery, everything takes a few seconds while it is thinking about what to do. Never seen that on the GS3, it could be because of the octacore processor figuring out which core is more suited to the task, but that shouldn't take so long so I figure Samsung just haven't optimised 4.2.2 properly yet. For that reason I think Samsung definitely showed the GS4 much earlier than they would have liked, it is releasing, what two weeks earlier than GS3, but they showed it 6 weeks in advance? That makes no sense, I think Samsung are pretty worried about Xperia Z in Asia and Europe, it is eating into GS4 sales quite heavily at this point. It's the only way to explain just how unpolished the software is, it stops to think so much, and I'm 100% sure this won't be the case for the final release and it is just an optimisation issue, it makes me think they let it out too early. Earlier than they would have liked, that's for sure.
His contact at Samsung mentioned stock for the first month is going to be quite tight so pre-order if you want a guaranteed delivery in April/May.
Something that always annoyed me with the S3, and to some extent the Note 2, is that the screen feels like it has had a sharpen filter pass over it. Is that what you mean with the black crush?
zomgbbqftw
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No, the screen is too dark so dark stuff all looks black and has no detail.
SirMossyBloke
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ah yes, just what android needed, even more fragmentation
Seriously though, what's the selling point of the HTC One now? That it looks purdy? I'd say the screen but lets face it, a casual person walking into a store will be attracted to the saturation of a galaxy phone. I want them to do well though. Just won't be supporting the cause!
Tons of reasons to get the One. After seeing the GS4 announcement I'm even more excited to get it.
Best screen, with highest DPI, nicest design by a long shot, smooth UI, amazing sounding front facing speakers (seriously, I was blown away), and it does virtually everything the S4 does. At least the stuff I care about.
One of the fastest on the market and most importantly, better than my iPhone 4S lol
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