The Faceless Master
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worse than samsung
pretty easy to be worse than #1 as that category includes everyone else
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worse than samsung
HTC and Sony don't make any phones with flimsy backcovers, Faceless.pretty easy to be worse than #1 as that category includes everyone else
Nokia's color choices for the 920 are so much better
HTC and Sony don't make any phones with flimsy backcovers, Faceless.
What? The First is unibody isn't it? I won't say anything about ZL, since it won't ever see US shores.by 'flimsy' do you mean removable battery? because that's the only way i can see for you to exclude the HTC First and Sony Q2 2013 FLAGSHIP Xperia ZL
By the way, I think it's great that we now have Stock fragmentation between:
Nexus 4
HTC One Play Edition
Samsung GS4 Play Edition
Moto X
You can't stop the train.
Has anyone put any thought into what could seriosly be coming in this MOTO X?
Designed by you? OK got it, what aspects will be customisable?
If we cross reference the leaks for where the leak on the customisable design came from months ago, what else was said?
The MOTO page also says the next billion people getting a smart phone are targeted so it would have to be cheap if it is indeed targeting developing countries where a shit ton of people are going to come online soon. On the other hand didn't Dennis Woodside say it would be going up against the iPhone 5 and Galaxy et al, how is that meant to be a cheap device?
I am confused - is MOTO X a range of devices, that have a kind of common denominator, where you can customise screen size, resolution and battery size but CPU and RAM are fixed heck those should only account for ~ $80 of the total price. Cos changing up the SoC means that different ones have different performance characteristics. But you have to have a crap SoC if you going for cheap, or maybe different devices all together tied by common Android platform and other web services tailored to each device.
I don't believe Google Play Music All Access is available in Canada (you need a US credit card), but I didn't have any trouble matching my Spotify library with Play Music. I ultimately chose the latter because it was $8 a month, as opposed to $10, and I was already familiar with the Play Music app.So how does Google all access compare to Spotify in terms of selection? I'm trying out Spotify right now and the app seems pretty nice to me.
I'm also from Canada so there is a severe lack in options. Don't know if i can even get all access here whereas Spotify is pretty easy to get around.
what stock fragmentation? the HTC has Sense Framework and the Samsung has TouchWiz Framework. i also expect the Motorola to still use the Motoblur Framework internally even if they lie and say blur is gone like they've been saying forever.
I think that's his point. Even though it's stock on the surface, it's not on the inside. So basically there are fragmented versions of stock.
but how are they any more fragmented than them not existing when the OEM versions use the same OEM framework?
but how are they any more fragmented than them not existing when the OEM versions use the same OEM framework?
Wireless spectrum is heavily regulated, and the barrier to market is steep if not extremely painful.conspiracy:
Moto X's disruptive capabilities have nothing to do with the hardware, or the software, only the price. A phone that sells unlocked for the same price as the flagships at the contract price will slowly break people from the shackles of their contracts, over time allowing for a graceful switch from the major carriers over to:
Google Wireless, powered by Google fiber.
Why couldn't, and shouldn't, google get into the cell tower backhaul business? While it's building out last mile capabilities to residences and businesses it would be trivial for google to provide fiber backhaul to existing wireless providers' towers in the same area. At that point, why not trade up to antennae, rent some spectrum and start providing service? Google went after white space in 2011, and hasn't done anything with it yet. They could throw in another wifi radio (and make the phone's battery life even worse) and then tell the carriers who own the spectrum to go pound sand.
Google's mission was to fragment OEMs. Mission accomplished.Stock stock
Stock Touchwiz
Stock Sense
Stock Blur
four different versions of stock, which also would mean there OEM frameworks are also fragmented into
Touchwiz Touchwiz
Touchwiz Stock
Sense Sense
Sense Stock
Blur Blur
Blur Stock
SO MUCH FRAGMENTATION
Wireless spectrum is heavily regulated, and the barrier to market is steep if not extremely painful.
But the starting assumption is sound. The path through fiber makes sense, as would wireless service. Bigger pipes at cheaper prices means more people using Google services.
I find the idea of Project Loon as a secondary net to be more palatable.
When it comes down to it, Google, Apple and even Microsoft would love to disrupt the carriers. Jobs effectively referred to them as market leeches.
Google's mission was to fragment OEMs. Mission accomplished.
I think a $300 phone is about $200 too much for developing countries, and in that case customizing the software/resolution wouldn't be nearly as important as having amazing battery life, durability, and maybe dual-sim card slots. I'm guessing the new Motorola phone is meant to test the existing smartphone market and see if there is a desire for a very personalized phone.
I would be surprised if it wasn't a world phone though and the value will probably be unmatched even if it has mid-range specs. But I just don't see a middle class person in India or China dropping a months salary on a phone that can easily break and requires a data plan to do anything their current cell phones can't do.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/09/tech/mobile/amazon-phone-3d(CNN) -- For more than a year, there have been rumors that Amazon is working on a smartphone. Now, The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Amazon is actually working on two.
The Journal reported Thursday that Amazon is "developing a wide-ranging line-up of gadgets," including two smartphones, one of which will have a 3D screen. Citing multiple anonymous sources, the Journal says the 3D-capable smartphone will not require special glasses and may even let users navigate just by moving their eyes.
In addition to the two smartphone models, Amazon is also said to be working on a device for streaming music and a set-top box, the latter of which was also reported by Bloomberg BusinessWeek last month.
Amazon did not immediately respond to our request for comment.
Until now, Amazon's hardware efforts have centered around its Kindle e-readers and tablets. However, CEO Jeff Bezos suggested in an interview with AllThingsD in September that Amazon was planning to expand on its hardware offerings in the coming year. "We will certainly — not any time soon — but next year. We have some more things that we hope people will enjoy," he told the publication. "It's premature for me to talk about them."
While it's not particularly surprising to hear about Amazon working on a smartphone, it is a bit strange to hear news of a possible 3D-enabled device. Despite a fair amount of hype a couple years ago, 3D-technology has had mixed success at best in the consumer technology market.
By the way, I think it's great that we now have Stock fragmentation between:
Nexus 4
HTC One Play Edition
Samsung GS4 Play Edition
Moto X
You can't stop the train.
Coppy, are you using your Google voice for Craigslist hangouts?So I'm a bit worried about how Google will merge hangouts and voice and possibly messaging.
I use those three things for entirely different purposes. I'd rather not merge my talk/g+ contacts with my voice contacts. There's a reason I started using a separate phone number....
Google would buy T-Mobile and every other carrier would be f'ed.conspiracy:
Moto X's disruptive capabilities have nothing to do with the hardware, or the software, only the price. A phone that sells unlocked for the same price as the flagships at the contract price will slowly break people from the shackles of their contracts, over time allowing for a graceful switch from the major carriers over to:
Google Wireless, powered by Google fiber.
Why couldn't, and shouldn't, google get into the cell tower backhaul business? While it's building out last mile capabilities to residences and businesses it would be trivial for google to provide fiber backhaul to existing wireless providers' towers in the same area. At that point, why not trade up to antennae, rent some spectrum and start providing service? Google went after white space in 2011, and hasn't done anything with it yet. They could throw in another wifi radio (and make the phone's battery life even worse) and then tell the carriers who own the spectrum to go pound sand.
I got one when I got a Nexus 4 and now have an adapter card coming to put in my GS4 so it will work. They are pretty awesome.What's the consensus on wireless chargers? I have a Nexus 4 and impulse bought the Nokia one. The technology sounds too futuristic for a geek to pass up so I'm hoping it works well.
No comment.
I'm actually looking into moving my Google voice number to another account.
Everyone should look into it, its pretty funny. There's literally at least five "are you sure" prompts just inside the help section.
What's the consensus on wireless chargers? I have a Nexus 4 and impulse bought the Nokia one. The technology sounds too futuristic for a geek to pass up so I'm hoping it works well.
Well, I'm downloading my free copy of Magna Carta Holy Grail.
Now that I have All Access, I could listen to Jay-Z's entire discography up to this album first if I really wanted to.
Which I kinda don't.
Best way to root your phone? Help please.
Liberating, isn't it?
I no longer have to YouTube Movie soundtracks.
that yellow/grey HTC Windows Phone 8S is DARWIN TIER
by 'flimsy' do you mean removable battery? because that's the only way i can see for you to exclude the HTC First and Sony Q2 2013 FLAGSHIP Xperia ZL
With the new Motorola X phone having all these customizable options, can you choose a 'good' camera? Every other Motorola phone has had a sub par camera.
With the new Motorola X phone having all these customizable options, can you choose a 'good' camera? Every other Motorola phone has had a sub par camera.
It's kind of scary. I was randomly listening to some guy's Featured Playlist called "The Best of 2013 (So Far)" earlier today and it was going through some random stuff and suddenly I was listening to Black Sabbath. I was like, wait what? Black Sabbath in 2013? So I went and looked at the album and discovered that they had released a new album this year. More amazingly, despite the fact that they are all old (Ozzy Osbourne is 64!), the original 4 members of the band reunited to record the album titled simply "13". So I queued it up and listened to the whole album right then and there because I felt like it.
This All Access thing is nothing short of amazing.
It's really an unnecessary amount of attention for a budget, mid-range phone.I have a feeling the only person that will end up with a moto X is shin.
It's really an unnecessary amount of attention for a budget, mid-range phone.
This is probably accurate. If it's out before the end of this month, I might get it as a "gap" phone. Lucked out with a $100 upgrade fluke on AT&T.I have a feeling the only person that will end up with a moto X is shin.
It's really an unnecessary amount of attention for a budget, mid-range phone.
I'll be honest with you guys. I don't give a shit if something's made in the USA.