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The Faceless Master
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makes antenna design more flexible
also, wireless charging
and yeah, it's also about all the reviewers who called polycarbonate 'cheap' over and over and over and why we can't have replaceable batteries anymore on premium devices
in a totally unrelated question, how come reviewers complain about the fingerprint reader placement on the GS8 but are not just *okay with* but actually cheering for the back button being all the way on the left just because "it's stock" ???
BoboBrazil
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What does it help? Reception is exactly the same on all my phones I've used on T-Mobile within 1 or 2 db at most of each other. The 4x4 mimo helps more than anything else for download speeds but you don't need a glass back for that.
BoboBrazil
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First thing I always try to do is reverse button placement if available. Right capacitive key or on screen button is just perfect.
I gotta say I don't really miss replaceable batteries because I never carried a spare and my battery never went bad in one.
sleverfunk
Member
Surprised to see there's OP3T on a local store here. Tempting but OP5 is near.
brotkasten
Member
I'm sure I'm an outlier, but I never put cases on my phones. I find cases to be very ugly (at least in the Android world), bulky and they make the phone feel weird in hand. I never picked up a phone with a case and went all "this feels nice!" I also have yet to have a screen crack on me (which is obviously going to happen now) and I already dropped my S7 a couple of times, even on tiles. Sure, it got scratches and a couple of dents, but it's a damn phone, a utility and not some piece of fine, high art, super rare jewelry that needs to be protected at all costs.
Just because you have QA problems in the past (which is the root problem) doesn't mean a 4000 mah battery is a huge feat and issue vs. the 3500/3600 mah you're already using. It's not like no one else has put a 4000 mah battery. And it would be a suitable size battery for the bigger footprint that 6.3-6.5" screen will have with the slightly larger dimensions.
Note 8 will most likely be $1100-1200, positioned as the "most premium phone on the market for business use etc." I'm wondering how far they're gonna push the envelope. They have momentum on their side and months of testing and implementing what they learned from the Note 7 fiasco.
Just IMO and my 2c, just seems like a logical route to me. They're gonna play it safe but perhaps they've had success with those specs.
Perhaps it's asking too much, but 6-8GB RAM would be ideal.
Just a few days in, but so far Nougat is running beautifully on the N4. Stutters every now and then, but way less than my old Lollipop install. I think the Flash storage is a little worn too and it was never very fast iirc.
Only issue is I fail the safety net test, but I'm going to see if I can fix that.
Makes me kinda mad Google stopped support so early. The iPhone comparison (they slow down a lot) is flawed because iOS isn't made for low end devices like Android and the newer versions are quite taxing. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of phones sold today with Nougat that run a weaker GPU, especially when you factor in the resolution.
Only issue is I fail the safety net test, but I'm going to see if I can fix that.
Makes me kinda mad Google stopped support so early. The iPhone comparison (they slow down a lot) is flawed because iOS isn't made for low end devices like Android and the newer versions are quite taxing. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of phones sold today with Nougat that run a weaker GPU, especially when you factor in the resolution.
Little Old Man
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My 5X just randomly died a death this morning. Set up for LG to collect and repair it.
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I wish I was rich enough to not use a case.
Depends on the iOS device. The 6+ was always a turd but the SE should run iOS 12 like a champion.
But yeah I was super bummed that the Nexus 5 only got 2 updates. Google cut support way too soon for their devices.
Depends on the iOS device. The 6+ was always a turd but the SE should run iOS 12 like a champion.
But yeah I was super bummed that the Nexus 5 only got 2 updates. Google cut support way too soon for their devices.
My N4 has never been in a case
More the edge cases like 3G and 4S which came right before a big speed bump. IMO the 6+ shows just how taxing modern iOS is. It renders at "just" 1200p and its GPU still beat anything on Android when new.
Vanillalite
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Obviously more RAM is always nice, but for phones idk why you'd really need more than 4 gigs of lpddr4.
I get why 2-3 can be squeezing shit, but 4 should be more than enough headroom.
I get why 2-3 can be squeezing shit, but 4 should be more than enough headroom.
The 1 gb of ram probably didn't help. My 6+ always ran not amazing. Probably worst running iPhoneMy N4 has never been in a case
More the edge cases like 3G and 4S which came right before a big speed bump. IMO the 6+ shows just how taxing modern iOS is. It renders at "just" 1200p and its GPU still beat anything on Android when new.
My N4 has never been in a case
Well that was always an inexpensive phone! Having just spent £700 on an iPhone 7 (thanks Brexit) I am not going to risk going case-less and mine looks pretty nice anyway.
I remember the die hards trying to defend the 1GB of RAM even though the 6+ was a spluttery mess. Good times.
Yeah. 6s plus fix those issues and basically the only thing holding performance back is the animations lol. 6s+ and 7+ basically the same phone. Just pick if you want dual cameras stereo speakers water proof or headphone jack basically.
Vanillalite
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People seem to forget that it's a unified RAM pool too.
So like if you want to reserve some of the RAM for VRAM then you need the rest for apps outside of running the OS.
Plus obviously higher res screens could use more VRAM.
So like if you want to reserve some of the RAM for VRAM then you need the rest for apps outside of running the OS.
Plus obviously higher res screens could use more VRAM.
sweetvar26
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Did you get that sorted?
I've had an LG G5, basically it interferes with the phone default security and technically it works but you can only unlock the phone with fingerprint if you lock the phone double tapping the status bar. If you double tap elsewhere, you'd have to use the pin/pattern to unlock the phone and it overrides the fingerprint functionality.
So it isn't as convenient as the stock LG G5.
Doesn't Google blame the two year support cycle on Qualcomm for not updating their drivers?
My OP3T has 6gb of RAM and sometiems I open an app after a week and it goes back to the exact same place I left it. 6gb of ram is huuuuuge nowadays, no reason for Samsung to do an 8gb Note 8.
Also, isn't the Note usually an bigger, updated version of the galaxy? meaning that the real big difference in performance/hardware comes always in the galaxy? specially after the note 7 fiasco, they wont risk doing a super ultra inovative smartphone full of new features. Probably just use a 836 (if there will be one) soc, and software features added to the ROM. hardware must be flawless.
Also, isn't the Note usually an bigger, updated version of the galaxy? meaning that the real big difference in performance/hardware comes always in the galaxy? specially after the note 7 fiasco, they wont risk doing a super ultra inovative smartphone full of new features. Probably just use a 836 (if there will be one) soc, and software features added to the ROM. hardware must be flawless.
Xiaomi is entering Mexico. US Soonish?
https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/09/xiaomi-mexico/
Samsung is also quite aggressive with memory management. Games 90% reload if I switch to something and come back. Never had that issue with my 4gb ram pixel or axon 7 or le pro 3.
It's similar to Huawei but I heard Emui 5.1 has some new smart memory management tech that smartly keeps things you use in memory better?
https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/09/xiaomi-mexico/
Samsung is also quite aggressive with memory management. Games 90% reload if I switch to something and come back. Never had that issue with my 4gb ram pixel or axon 7 or le pro 3.
It's similar to Huawei but I heard Emui 5.1 has some new smart memory management tech that smartly keeps things you use in memory better?
You have to remember that when the average consumer hears big numbers when it comes to tech, they usually think better. Big numbers sell really well in overseas markets like China. China especially likes big phones since it allows for my Chinese characters on a keyboard.
Ofc, forgot about the RAM. Felt like Apple would never upgrade it back then
My N4 has never been in a case
Mine either. Still in perfect condition. My 5x is naked too.
And really things like bezeless designs makes me want to put it in a case even less.
Vanillalite
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Got that Gear Fit 2. Best Buy only had black. They were sold out this past weekend, and they only had 2 left when I went today. Think the sale made the price much more in line with what people wanted to pay.
Flipped my $100 BB gift card they gave me for buying the S8+, and I gave the gear fit 2 as part of the mother's day present to the wifey.
Flipped my $100 BB gift card they gave me for buying the S8+, and I gave the gear fit 2 as part of the mother's day present to the wifey.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
S8 owners, get bent https://www.mcafee.com/us/about/newsroom/press-releases/press-release.aspx?news_id=20170508006538
Samsung cycle is ramping up to be another good one!
Samsung cycle is ramping up to be another good one!
Randy Lanzarote
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I installed AccuBattery this morning, one of its features is it can give you an estimation of the maximum capacity of your battery to see how much its degraded over time.
This is only on first charge cycle so it's subject to a bit of change, but my 10mth old Galaxy Note 5 has gone from 3000mah to 2381mah.
Degradation of 20% in 1yr.... That's bad, right? Where are Samsung sourcing these batteries from?
*galaxy note 7 joke goes here*
This is only on first charge cycle so it's subject to a bit of change, but my 10mth old Galaxy Note 5 has gone from 3000mah to 2381mah.
Degradation of 20% in 1yr.... That's bad, right? Where are Samsung sourcing these batteries from?
*galaxy note 7 joke goes here*
No, that sounds right. Assuming a roughly daily charge, Apple says that their batteries will likely lose around 20% with 300-400 cycles.
Randy Lanzarote
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I was expecting degradation, but not that much that quickly. According to my bat sys cycle stats I'm at 287.
Now I'm thinking the way forward is going back to a phone with replaceable battery, which sort of limits me to... A G5 or G5 SE? :/
It's really not clear what is actually happening here to have an opinion on it.
Circa 2mb stub included in firmware with no running system deamon unless activated, plus a free sub that can be hidden? Slightly sub-optimal but fine. Using the Google approved hint to reinstall after factory reset, but completely uninstallable? I really wouldn't care at all. Listed as a system app that can't be uninstalled but not actively used as system demon without activation? More of an OCD eye twitch but not that bad. System app that can't be uninstalled and runs a system demon impacting performance in all cases? Rage inducing. Will it be applied to users who've already bought devices? We have no idea.
So yeah, could be terrible, could be fine. The wording is pretty similar to the Office announcement though, which suggests scenario 1. Which took me thirty seconds to disable and hide the shortcuts, and I never have to see it again (and the storage impact is less than a single photograph).
Ideologically it's not great, but in practice the actual impact might be nil for most users here.
Samsung also made it a point that the Galaxy s8 uses new battery tech to retain 95% of it's capacity after a year.
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...y-than-the-galaxy-s7s-company-reveals-1675436
http://m.gsmarena.com/iphone_se_2017_has_a_glass_back_leak_shows-news-24959.php
That's a surprise. Iphone SE going glass back?
Guess the cycle loops around and glass is cool again.
That's a surprise. Iphone SE going glass back?
Guess the cycle loops around and glass is cool again.
Jazzy Network
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Glass is the best material to have wireless charging.
Vivalaraza
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I thought their position was that they will replace any battery that drops below 80% capacity within the warranty/apple care period - rather than they expect to lose 20% of charge.
20% in a year sounds like a lot to me. Obv YMMV but my 7+ is about 7 months old and is at 97%.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Glass has always been cool. The coolest.
Randy Lanzarote
Member
I think Sony also said something about their batteries 'learning' charging patterns so it could fast/slow charge when appropriate to help slow down degradation.
Maybe this is why Samsung performance decreases over time, the cpu underclocks to take into account battery degradation
If the 7S sticks with it's current crappy design and the SE moves to this I honestly think the SE might take a near 50% share.
brotkasten
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The Faceless Master
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why is that link sending me to a page to buy McAfee?
Vanillalite
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This.
Gotta be for wireless charging. That being said seems weird the SE gonna beat the main ones to the punch.
Ah. Makes sense. The reason I was surprised was that apple was gonna put some R&D into the SE line lol.
A smaller phone would be more important once Apple goes full Samsung.
S8 is a fairly small phone but tall screen makes it not easy to 1 Hand compare to S7.
It really depends on your charging habits. It should be around 400 full charge cycles (so if you plugged it in the charger at 50%, that would only be a 0.5). I could feel my 6P begin to go off that cliff even though I wasn't getting those 30% shutdowns some people were going as I was almost draining it by the end of the day and charging it overnight.
I think it does feel like a cliff edge rather than a gradual decline too. Once I hit around the year of my S4, it started going further and further down the drain by the month battery wise.
Vanillalite
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So there it is???
Hype? Idk. Don't know what I need from a pixel 2 that would happen,like a good design.
Sold the Axon 7 for $280. Not bad when I got it at launch for $400 and Samsung level bluetooth earbuds and $80 gift card as preorder stuff.
BoboBrazil
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Great thing about OnePlus and those Axon phones. They retain resale value. People are getting almost full value still for OnePlus 3 and 3T models on Swappa.
The Faceless Master
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1 down, 2? to go?
Seems so!
Mate 9 was hard to sell lol.
Was about $500 after it came out in the US already. Hyundai of phones apparently.
BoboBrazil
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Lol usually the higher price the phone starts at the more it drops in price quickly. Especially since that's a phone noone really cared about. I get people trying to trade me mate 9s online all the time.