I'd like to visit these people:
fishfishmonkeyhat: 16
fishfishmonkeyhat: 19
rataven: 37
Chopper: 42
MicH: 42
Chanser: 42
My FC is 4656-6356-9113.
Don't think it's showing up. What's your town called?Sure. I think I added you yesterday but let me know if my gate isn't showing up.
I don't have those numbers any more sorry.
Come on by. Gates are open.
Come on by. Gates are open.
That's alright.
I don't think you have me on your friends list.
New numbers for today: 3, 4, 13, 29
I need 5, 1, or 24, 28, 31.
Still got 1 and 31?
Also all this stuff is currently happening in my town (perfect pears, turnips etc).
I'd like to visit these people:
Chopper: 42
MicH: 42
Chanser: 42
My FC is 4656-6356-9113.
i need your 44 again
Open for anyone who needs 42. Eli?
is rataven's town Lalalu? i can't find the snowman
Alright, I'll open up for you and everyone else that needs my numbers.
EDIT: After I visit Chopper.
EDIT2: Gate's open. My snowmen are north of Rosie's house.
Added and open!Ooo, I could use a 42! Can I swing by in a few?
(I made a rhyme)
Yeah, that's me. It's just left of Town Hall.
I'll open up, I need to visit your 44.
3! I need too. Adding FC.
I forgot to sell the gold ores I have in my pocket though. Let me know if you open up again.
Today's number is 1 if anyone needs it!
I do! Adding now. Let me know if you open up thanks.
Is that stuff you need to give your villagers on Toy Day? You don't need to buy any of that. Jingle will give you a bag of gifts when you dress as Santa, and you just pass them out.
Wait, for Toy Day you have to order the stuff? I thought Jingle gave you a bunch of gifts and you just have to give them to the proper villagers?
Added. Stop by whenever you're ready!
Sorry, what's your town name? I should add mine to my profile as well.
Just tossing a general series of questions out to try to get some discussion going that isn't necessarily related to bingo:
Most of us have had a decent amount of time with the snowpeople, so what are your thoughts on them? I believe this is the first game with more than a snowman, which is the equivalent of the snowboy in this game, so that's a fairly big change in and of itself. Would you say that this is largely improved from the past games, or would you prefer there just be the one snowman like the old games? Would you like the building process to be simplified somehow? How would you like them to shift this idea in future iterations of the game?
Just tossing a general series of questions out to try to get some discussion going that isn't necessarily related to bingo:
The Snow family idea is a really nice touch, but I think too much emphasis is placed on each individual family member. It's a bit overwhelming when you have each family member handing out their own unique items. I'd rather have a system that rewards players on building the entire snow family & gather items to decorate the snow family.
Just tossing a general series of questions out to try to get some discussion going that isn't necessarily related to bingo:
This is a nice idea.The Snow family idea is a really nice touch, but I think too much emphasis is placed on each individual family member. It's a bit overwhelming when you have each family member handing out their own unique items. I'd rather have a system that rewards players on building the entire snow family & gather items to decorate the snow family.
Most of us have had a decent amount of time with the snowpeople, so what are your thoughts on them? I believe this is the first game with more than a snowman, which is the equivalent of the snowboy in this game, so that's a fairly big change in and of itself. Would you say that this is largely improved from the past games, or would you prefer there just be the one snowman like the old games? Would you like the building process to be simplified somehow? How would you like them to shift this idea in future iterations of the game?
Just tossing a general series of questions out to try to get some discussion going that isn't necessarily related to bingo:
Most of us have had a decent amount of time with the snowpeople, so what are your thoughts on them? I believe this is the first game with more than a snowman, which is the equivalent of the snowboy in this game, so that's a fairly big change in and of itself. Would you say that this is largely improved from the past games, or would you prefer there just be the one snowman like the old games? Would you like the building process to be simplified somehow? How would you like them to shift this idea in future iterations of the game?
My tl;dr responses:
For me, I think having the multiple snowpeople is kind of neat, when compared to the Gamecube snowman building (that's the only other one I've played). I really like that they kind of foster visiting other people, whether it's to get bingo numbers for a snowman, or using somebody else's snowmam for ice furniture. It's been fun having visitors and visiting people, since we haven't been doing too much of that since the fireworks over the summer, or on random event days. So in that sense, I feel like it's a big improvement, since you're not just getting one set of furniture and ridding your hands of having to build more.
While this does cause the player to actively roll snowballs around for a couple months, it's also a big time investment, which can definitely be a detriment for many people. At best, it will take 10 days to get all the snowman items, 1 day for the snowmam's, 15 days for the snowboy's, and 16 for the snowtyke, which can be reduced to a total of 36 days (I think I have the right). That's a lot of days, and may not be practical for everyone, especially when you consider that this is a best case scenario: it could take more days to deal with the bingo cards. While you have 75 days total to deal with all this, you'd pretty much have to play regularly if you wanted everything (which admittedly might not be the case anyway based on the player). That's quite a bit of an investment, compared to a much lesser one in the previous games, or at least the Gamecube one at any rate, if I remember right. I can definitely see that as being a bit daunting for many players. The bingo game is fairly simple for us since there are a lot of us playing, but if you don't have many friends on your list, that shit would be a giant pain in the ass.
In terms of the building process, I don't mind it, but it's certainly annoying if you have a lot of trees in your town. I wonder if there could be some kind of field or something reserved for this in the future games (perhaps there could also be events or minigames in this field). I mean really, the process of pushing two snowballs together isn't difficult in the slightest, but we just get penalized for being meticulous in our towns (or perhaps not so meticulous) and not having a lot of free space. Other than that, I think it's fine how it is.
If they continue this idea of having multiple snowpeople, I think I would prefer having a system that continues to foster the idea of visiting and having visitors, as I definitely think these games are more fun when you're together with friends. I do appreciate how they seem to give you items you don't have first before offering dupes, and it's not as annoying as it could be due to that. I think bingo is kind of nice, but it is a bit of an investment as well, so I could understand if people would want to do away with that. Maybe there could be a variation on the petition system or something, where you have to gather some sort of item or items from a snowperson of the same type from other towns. Arbitrary, awful example: a snowman needs a hat, a nose, a scarf, something like that, so you go to other towns and talk to their snowmams, snowtykes, and snowboys to get these items. I know, bad example, but something like that could work. I would definitely appreciate some kind of refinement wherein it's less work to get all the items, just to be fair to people who don't have a lot of time.
Sorry, I know this is much too long to read, but feel free to ignore my responses and just answer the questions (or ignore everything). Just thought it might be nice to have some actual discussion as well, since we've been kind of inundated with bingo related posts as of late, and it may be scaring people off
That's alright man. I didn't need anything in there. (Although I would have just dropped anything I bought for you anyway)Sorry chop, I haven't checked my stores today yet.
Gates open coldsnap.
I like the variety of snowpeople. It's pretty cool that there are a couple different sets. But like you mention, the time sink to collect it all is far too much for me personally. I'm pretty busy and I'm not able to play every day. Luckily for me, I'm not too hung up on trying to collect everything this year as I plan to stick with the game for quite some time so it's not a huge problem if I do miss some stuff. But from what I can tell from the thread, a lot of people would really like to collect everything quickly and that's totally understandable.
I'm not really sure how they could improve it for the inevitable Wii U version. On one hand, I like the variety. But on the other, it takes a lot of time many people do not have but would like to collect everything. I'd say remove the bingo and add more things like the snowmama, to speed it up a bit? I'm sure a lot of people are having fun with bingo though.
The Snow family idea is a really nice touch, but I think too much emphasis is placed on each individual family member. It's a bit overwhelming when you have each family member handing out their own unique items. I'd rather have a system that rewards players on building the entire snow family & gather items to decorate the snow family.
I like this idea. Maybe to go along with this, once you build the family they ask you to build them a home for the holidays. You could construct an igloo and be able to visit them in their home until they melt away.
Having to build them to perfection is the part I think that's killing people.
Considering they'll only last 4 days anyway.
stuff
Other stuff
I think the main problem here is that the game was designed to "last" several years to play through the seasons. But you are indeed correct that there is a grind to get these items as soon as possible. The refinement system should be considered for future releases...who the hell wants to weed 5000 plants out for a gold badge? Good grief, and those who do - really have a lot of time on their hands...
Ok. You asked for feedback, so there's my three cents.
No prob. I usually get that out of the way first thing so people can go check them out, but I've been trading stuff all morning.
The way it is, it rewards those with the time, inclination and effort to either travel to other countries or trade for those rarer, more valuable goods. Despite the fact that duping is a thing, the AC economy is a pretty dynamic, fascinating thing to be a part of.Niraj said:If they're unorderable, they should at least allow everybody to get it. Having region exclusive items is just a pain. I mean, it's a video game, so why not have your town celebrate all these different holidays?
Warrior_Keoni may I come over?
Can I come over again? I couldn't find 03 and had to leave What's your towns name?
Warrior_Keoni may I come over?
Can I come over again? I couldn't find 03 and had to leave What's your towns name?
Oh god when were you in my town?! I FEEL SO VIOLATED!
Gates open.
The way it is, it rewards those with the time, inclination and effort to either travel to other countries or trade for those rarer, more valuable goods. Despite the fact that duping is a thing, the AC economy is a pretty dynamic, fascinating thing to be a part of.
I know it's late, but if you still need some bingo numbers my town has...
23: To the left of the Cafe
28, 46, 49: South east of the town tree; follow the path south of the tree and you can't miss 'em.
Opening up my gates now.
And punishes those who are unable to find people from said countries. Will have to agree to disagree with you on that.
I have mixed feelings about the collecting/cataloguing elements of this game. Yes, I know they're optional, but they seem to induce a sort of compulsion in many people (myself included) that can turn the game into a bit of a chore.
For example, when I first started playing New Leaf (my first AC game), all I thought about was getting the gold tools. It made me not appreciate some elements like fishing and bug collecting for their own merits but only saw them as means to an end. Thus, when I got a set of duped gold tools from a friend, it actually helped me stop being so OCD and focus on the parts of the games that really work for me: interacting with others online, villagers, and town building.
When I played Dark Souls, my favorite game of all time, I got so obsessed with guides, collecting, upgrading items, and leveling up, that it took much of the fun out of it. When I got to the end I was as much relieved as anything else. So, I've tried since then to only uses guides as a last resort and let the game come to me, even if I might be missing out on stuff. It's made playing Black Flag much more enjoyable than some of the last few open-world games I've played.
So, yea, I do think they kind of overdo it with how many hoops you have to jump through to collect all the items in a set. I never let myself get into the cataloguing part of this game because of what happened with Dark Souls (though I have no judgments on those who get into it). I do want all the items in the Ski Series because I think they look awesome and I don't want dupes because playing bingo with you peeps keeps my mood up when I am editing the 500+ pages of my thesis. But I thought the other snowmen items seemed non-essential, so I'm only building snow papas.
Ok. You asked for feedback, so there's my three cents.
Most of us have had a decent amount of time with the snowpeople, so what are your thoughts on them? I believe this is the first game with more than a snowman, which is the equivalent of the snowboy in this game, so that's a fairly big change in and of itself. Would you say that this is largely improved from the past games, or would you prefer there just be the one snowman like the old games? Would you like the building process to be simplified somehow? How would you like them to shift this idea in future iterations of the game?
Maybe there could be a variation on the petition system or something, where you have to gather some sort of item or items from a snowperson of the same type from other towns.
Just thought it might be nice to have some actual discussion as well, since we've been kind of inundated with bingo related posts as of late, and it may be scaring people off
That does sound annoying about the dung beetles, but I haven't experienced it myself since I usually build mine after they disappear. That is pretty stupid though.
Frogstep if you're on I could use number 9 for bingo!
I have 31, 21, and 15.
Sure I can open for you in a minute. I'll check if I need any of yours so you can open for me afterwards.