Expanding on the point monkey made, what sets Cewyn apart from the other posters? Or perhaps I should word this differently, what have the other low posters done that made you feel more confident about them in comparison to Cewyn?
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Expanding on the point monkey made, what sets Cewyn apart from the other posters? Or perhaps I should word this differently, what have the other low posters done that made you feel more confident about them in comparison to Cewyn?
Oh yes, definitely.
Well, I chose my words carefully. I said "better", not "best". I am open to other options. Cewyn was just the one who jumped out at me from that list who was worse than TheExodu5.
oreomunsta
Banned
Polter, you're hiding something... But I do believe you're Town, so voting for you wouldn't be best.
Vote: ultron87
Vote: ultron87
You were the 1st to mention Cewyn, the list was posted after that.
hey_monkey
Banned
I'm super suspicious of the ultron87 votes without any backup, and here's why: Dusk Soldier and squidy have both voted ultron currently. Both are suspect in my eyes - squidy kicked off a kerfuffle that was distracting but that did require some solid analysis in between the mess, and I know I'm banging a drum on Dusk Soldier, but speaking of coasting - he's thrown a couple grenades, has not defended his actions there even though it's been discussed and he has not addressed my repeated calls to look at him. oreo is new, but a few people have seen him as suspicious. Now he's on the ultron train. This feels scummy to me.
Dusk is not one of the lowest posters, and has said some helpful things, but the lack of engagement on other things feels like coasting. squidy, if scum, is bad news. These three together for... reasons? why are they voting? Feels shady.
That said, I agree with SkyOdin on who we can cut from the list of lesser posters. hatmoza in particular should get a pass here. I'd have to look back over Cewyn's posts myself and I have to go run some errands so I might not have time. I'm open to changing my vote but I remain confident in my analysis - as confident as one can be on this weird day one.
Further said - BlackBuzzard had initially sparked for me, but then I changed my mind. I don't have particular feelings about Cewyn and I'm inclined to give Bowlie a pass but could be convinced.
Dusk is not one of the lowest posters, and has said some helpful things, but the lack of engagement on other things feels like coasting. squidy, if scum, is bad news. These three together for... reasons? why are they voting? Feels shady.
That said, I agree with SkyOdin on who we can cut from the list of lesser posters. hatmoza in particular should get a pass here. I'd have to look back over Cewyn's posts myself and I have to go run some errands so I might not have time. I'm open to changing my vote but I remain confident in my analysis - as confident as one can be on this weird day one.
Further said - BlackBuzzard had initially sparked for me, but then I changed my mind. I don't have particular feelings about Cewyn and I'm inclined to give Bowlie a pass but could be convinced.
There's so much nothing in this post. Throwing shade for something you agree with.
hey_monkey
Banned
Okay, I flipped back through 6-8 and Cewyn is an interesting one - some good posts, some shifty as hell (the exchange with Cabot was particularly thought-provoking), but I'm gonna argue to keep him for a very specific reason - he seems to spark some conflict with Dragonz and I think we might find that useful tomorrow.
I understand if people vote for him but I argue to keep him for now - for the same reason I think we should not yet move on Dragonz.
I understand if people vote for him but I argue to keep him for now - for the same reason I think we should not yet move on Dragonz.
waaa someone mentions a thing in the case they are wrong waaa
As is the case with most day phases in this game.
Just have to analyse things once and after they happen.
Interesting.
Poltergust
Member
I guess seeing all the people everyone voted for (if they vote at all) will give us some good insight.
A key argument for lynch vs no lynch. You're forcing people to make choices and act based off of that, no lynch is failing to make a choice and cowering.
Game isn't won sitting on the fence.
Poltergust
Member
We're not even that far; this is not a lynch vs. no lynch thing, it's voting vs. not voting lol.
Sky, I'm not voting exo because he's inactive. I'm voting him because his posts so far have been poor.
Also if someone doesn't meet the day posting requirement, they get prodded and only replaced if they don't respond to the prod.
I wouldn't expect exo to be replaced at this stage.
Also if someone doesn't meet the day posting requirement, they get prodded and only replaced if they don't respond to the prod.
I wouldn't expect exo to be replaced at this stage.
Since votes are kind of all over the place there's a real risk of WMD dying just because people aren't getting their votes in at the end of the day. Nomadic being banned means his vote is also effectively a "lock" on WMD and I don't like that. My vote on her was never a sure thing anyway so I'm going to switch to Stanley, who's been checking in and checking out with a little bit of tunnel on 30years, who, I agree with others here, is really a easy target. It's clear 30years has a different conceptualization of mafia than GAF does and it shows in his reasoning even if it isn't following the GAFia zeitgeist. It reads like a solo player.
Vote: StanleyPalmtree
Vote: StanleyPalmtree
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Vote: hey_monkey
You are throwing low key shade at people and going for easy targets(low post count) further more you are trying to butter people like Odin/Palmer up. Something is up with you and i just know it.
You are throwing low key shade at people and going for easy targets(low post count) further more you are trying to butter people like Odin/Palmer up. Something is up with you and i just know it.
I know. I scrolled up to Burbeting's vote tally to look at the post counts of everyone, and Cewyn jumped out at me because of prior bad vibes. I wasn't talking about heymonkey's quote of the same tally list.
I understand, and I won't criticize your decision. I just happen to disagree with it.
Why is going after low posters a scum tell? They're the hardest to read because of the low content, and day one is one of the better opportunities to throw the dice on a inactive lynch.
hey_monkey
Banned
I'm not low keying anything at this point - I am being very clear with less than three hours to go. And yeah, I like SkyOdin's analytical style, even if we don't necessarily agree (I wouldn't vote for Zubz, now, for instance). All that's up with me is that in the land outside, I'm a PhD student in rhetoric and I like data and analysis.
When did I "butter up" Palmer, though? Didn't Palmer complain about something I said?
When did I "butter up" Palmer, though? Didn't Palmer complain about something I said?
oreomunsta
Banned
Good criticism of the ultron votes, monkey! I wouldn't disagree with you if I were in your place, but I need to explain why I'm voting for ultron.
There are a lot of suspicious activities already going around. Some of these, though, I don't feel lead to a solid conclusion that the people behind them are scum. For example, those that choose to not lynch are suspicious, alright, but if you put yourself in the shoes of a scum player, would you have done something like that? I'll repeat what I said earlier, and that it feels like they put their bets on the table early, and walked away without a good explanation. Why would a scum player do something like that?
My big concern, that I purposefully haven't voiced until now, are the players that are active, but not saying much. Maybe I may have missed some info in the last few pages, but I don't feel like ultron has said a whole lot, yet his presence is felt. That concerns me heavily. On top of that, he's been noted for being an expert Gafia player, with a high win streak. This tells me he knows what he's doing, and he's confirmed that it's his M.O. Why would a Town player remain elusive? It's an anti-Town behavior, because we need to play and stick together.
All that being said, while I do agree, in action, agree with the other ultron votes, the voters have not left my sight. In particular, Dusk is still a significant concern to me, but he's not the prime concern right now, because his actions have spoken loudly. Squid is tricky on purpose, so I need to see more of him as we go on
There are a lot of suspicious activities already going around. Some of these, though, I don't feel lead to a solid conclusion that the people behind them are scum. For example, those that choose to not lynch are suspicious, alright, but if you put yourself in the shoes of a scum player, would you have done something like that? I'll repeat what I said earlier, and that it feels like they put their bets on the table early, and walked away without a good explanation. Why would a scum player do something like that?
My big concern, that I purposefully haven't voiced until now, are the players that are active, but not saying much. Maybe I may have missed some info in the last few pages, but I don't feel like ultron has said a whole lot, yet his presence is felt. That concerns me heavily. On top of that, he's been noted for being an expert Gafia player, with a high win streak. This tells me he knows what he's doing, and he's confirmed that it's his M.O. Why would a Town player remain elusive? It's an anti-Town behavior, because we need to play and stick together.
All that being said, while I do agree, in action, agree with the other ultron votes, the voters have not left my sight. In particular, Dusk is still a significant concern to me, but he's not the prime concern right now, because his actions have spoken loudly. Squid is tricky on purpose, so I need to see more of him as we go on
The expected answer. Not enough to antagonize you further I guess, just food for future thoughts should you become suspicious.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Going after inactives should be a last resort. Monkey is trying to make it look like post count is the only thing that counts(HA). What should be looked at is content not just the number.
hey_monkey
Banned
That's literally the opposite of what I did and in fact I still used it to argue against Dusk. You are straight up creating narrative from thin air. People brought up the inactives; I posted the numbers - and then argued for Dusk, who's higher. If this is your measure, go after the people talking about Cewyn or Bowlie. ┗(ˇ_ˇ)―→
Since both Burb and Yn are asleep...
I'm not doing post counts. Correct me if there's a mistake.
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
WhereAreMahDragonz (1)
BlackBuzzard 320867
30yearsofhurt 529546
Nomadic Sparks 615
Haly 647866
No Lynch (1)
Poltergust 119
Nomadic Sparks 351615
30yearsofhurt 796
ultron87 (3)
Dusk Soldier 745
Squidyj 762
oreomunsta 854
TheExodu5 (1)
cabot 565
oreomunsta (0)
Palmer_v1 709812
Kyanrute (1)
Dusk Soldier 308571
squidyj 704762
Poltergust 783
Nomadic Sparks (1)
Palmer_v1 352398
cabot 353565
ultron87 597746
WhereAreMahDragonz 620782
Bowlie 778
Zubz (1)
SkyOdin 684
squidyj (1)
cabot 116146
SkyOdin 131528
30yearsofhurt 251529
Cewyn 596
Poltergust (1)
squidyj 289704
rac 601
Dusk Soldier (1)
cabot 305347
hey_monkey 687
rac (1):
Swamped 204678,
30yearsofhurt 220251
Zubz 754
Haly (1):
cabot 146305,
Palmer_v1 398709
Swamped 765
hey_monkey (0)
TheExodu5 344768
30yearsofhurt (1):
rac 335601
StanleyPalmtree 807
hatmoza (0):
cabot 347353,
hey_monkey 453683
cabot (0):
Palmer_v1 274352
Palmer_v1 (0):
Dusk Soldier 571745
Bowlie (1)
Palmer_v1 812
StanleyPalmtree (1)
Haly 866
No active vote for Day 1: hatmoza, Kyanrute, ultron87 (has previously voted), WhereAreMahDragonz (has previously voted), TheExodu5 (has previously voted)
Day 1 ends:
12 votes for majority
I'm not doing post counts. Correct me if there's a mistake.
Really I just don't have much to say. It's been a relatively quiet day 1 without any dramatic role claims or huge voting swings. I'm bad at analyzing a day like this.
Honestly, the whole win rate thing is just a function of landing on teams that won. I've had a few good moments, but it'd be wrong to say it's due to super talented play by me. I like to think I can sniff out bs when things come to a head, but in the quiet times I don't have much.
hey_monkey
Banned
All right, I was supposed to leave for errands a while ago but now I'm really for real honestly going - will check in because I'm curious how this day one ends but for now I'm sticking to my Dusk vote probably.
With Kyanrute's post added:
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
WhereAreMahDragonz (1)
BlackBuzzard 320867
30yearsofhurt 529546
Nomadic Sparks 615
Haly 647866
No Lynch (1)
Poltergust 119
Nomadic Sparks 351615
30yearsofhurt 796
ultron87 (3)
Dusk Soldier 745
Squidyj 762
oreomunsta 854
TheExodu5 (1)
cabot 565
oreomunsta (0)
Palmer_v1 709812
Kyanrute (1)
Dusk Soldier 308571
squidyj 704762
Poltergust 783
Nomadic Sparks (1)
Palmer_v1 352398
cabot 353565
ultron87 597746
WhereAreMahDragonz 620782
Bowlie 778
Zubz (1)
SkyOdin 684
squidyj (1)
cabot 116146
SkyOdin 131528
30yearsofhurt 251529
Cewyn 596
Poltergust (1)
squidyj 289704
rac 601
Dusk Soldier (1)
cabot 305347
hey_monkey 687
rac (1):
Swamped 204678,
30yearsofhurt 220251
Zubz 754
Haly (1):
cabot 146305,
Palmer_v1 398709
Swamped 765
hey_monkey (0)
TheExodu5 344768
30yearsofhurt (1):
rac 335601
StanleyPalmtree 807
hatmoza (0):
cabot 347353,
hey_monkey 453683
cabot (0):
Palmer_v1 274352
Palmer_v1 (0):
Dusk Soldier 571745
Bowlie (1)
Palmer_v1 812
StanleyPalmtree (1)
Haly 866
Zubz (1)
Kyanrute 875
No active vote for Day 1: hatmoza, ultron87 (has previously voted), WhereAreMahDragonz (has previously voted), TheExodu5 (has previously voted)
Day 1 ends:
12 votes for majority
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Can anyone else chime in at this point Exo,Hatzo?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Vote: Zubs
I am concerned with his interaction with me in which he answered a question in defense of himself and then basically admitted that he fucked up. He didn't fight for himself, at all, and was the first to jump at the chance to explain himself. I see it as panicky scum behavior who is trying to appease an active player.
Then there's his vote for Rac-kun. It happened immediately after my interaction with him. He says he "voted for someone more useful" but never explained it. How is he more useful? He's a relatively inactive player but he's one that doesn't necessarily ring a whole lot of alarm bells at the moment. It feels like an easy lynch; one that will not garner a lot of attention if you vote on him, but yet, also gives the double appearance of trying to help town. Zubs-kun isn't trying to solve the game; he's merely trying to push and prod to appear active.
Zubs-kun's play is inconsistent with town behavior, coming from me, who has played scum quite a bit, and so I feel confident in voting for him.
I am concerned with his interaction with me in which he answered a question in defense of himself and then basically admitted that he fucked up. He didn't fight for himself, at all, and was the first to jump at the chance to explain himself. I see it as panicky scum behavior who is trying to appease an active player.
Then there's his vote for Rac-kun. It happened immediately after my interaction with him. He says he "voted for someone more useful" but never explained it. How is he more useful? He's a relatively inactive player but he's one that doesn't necessarily ring a whole lot of alarm bells at the moment. It feels like an easy lynch; one that will not garner a lot of attention if you vote on him, but yet, also gives the double appearance of trying to help town. Zubs-kun isn't trying to solve the game; he's merely trying to push and prod to appear active.
Zubs-kun's play is inconsistent with town behavior, coming from me, who has played scum quite a bit, and so I feel confident in voting for him.
Wait, why did you vote for Zubz? We still have enough time for you to give reasons for stuff. I mean, I know why my vote is still on Zubz, but what are your thoughts?
Esta muy bien
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
WhereAreMahDragonz (1)
BlackBuzzard 320867
30yearsofhurt 529546
Nomadic Sparks 615
Haly 647866
No Lynch (1)
Poltergust 119
Nomadic Sparks 351615
30yearsofhurt 796
ultron87 (3)
Dusk Soldier 745
Squidyj 762
oreomunsta 854
TheExodu5 (1)
cabot 565
oreomunsta (0)
Palmer_v1 709812
Kyanrute (1)
Dusk Soldier 308571
squidyj 704762
Poltergust 783
Nomadic Sparks (1)
Palmer_v1 352398
cabot 353565
ultron87 597746
WhereAreMahDragonz 620782
Bowlie 778
Zubz (2)
SkyOdin 684
WhereAreMahDragonz 884
squidyj (1)
cabot 116146
SkyOdin 131528
30yearsofhurt 251529
Cewyn 596
Poltergust (1)
squidyj 289704
rac 601
Dusk Soldier (1)
cabot 305347
hey_monkey 687
rac (1):
Swamped 204678,
30yearsofhurt 220251
Zubz 754
Haly (1):
cabot 146305,
Palmer_v1 398709
Swamped 765
hey_monkey (0)
TheExodu5 344768
30yearsofhurt (1):
rac 335601
StanleyPalmtree 807
hatmoza (0):
cabot 347353,
hey_monkey 453683
cabot (0):
Palmer_v1 274352
Palmer_v1 (0):
Dusk Soldier 571745
Bowlie (1)
Palmer_v1 812
StanleyPalmtree (1)
Haly 866
Zubz (1)
Kyanrute 875
No active vote for Day 1: hatmoza, ultron87 (has previously voted), TheExodu5 (has previously voted)
Day 1 ends:
12 votes for majority
I'll invoke the "it is hidden in my previous posts" -clause here.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Where is automatic counter human error is bad 
Where is automatic counter human error is bad
I want to know too but it looks like it wasn't set up for this game we'll have to ask burb when the bear awakes from hibernation.
Esta muy bien
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
WhereAreMahDragonz (1)
BlackBuzzard 320867
30yearsofhurt 529546
Nomadic Sparks 615
Haly 647866
No Lynch (1)
Poltergust 119
Nomadic Sparks 351615
30yearsofhurt 796
ultron87 (3)
Dusk Soldier 745
Squidyj 762
oreomunsta 854
TheExodu5 (1)
cabot 565
oreomunsta (0)
Palmer_v1 709812
Kyanrute (1)
Dusk Soldier 308571
squidyj 704762
Poltergust 783
Nomadic Sparks (1)
Palmer_v1 352398
cabot 353565
ultron87 597746
WhereAreMahDragonz 620782
Bowlie 778
Zubz (3)
SkyOdin 684
WhereAreMahDragonz 884
Kyanrute 875
squidyj (1)
cabot 116146
SkyOdin 131528
30yearsofhurt 251529
Cewyn 596
Poltergust (1)
squidyj 289704
rac 601
Dusk Soldier (1)
cabot 305347
hey_monkey 687
rac (1):
Swamped 204678,
30yearsofhurt 220251
Zubz 754
Haly (1):
cabot 146305,
Palmer_v1 398709
Swamped 765
hey_monkey (0)
TheExodu5 344768
30yearsofhurt (1):
rac 335601
StanleyPalmtree 807
hatmoza (0):
cabot 347353,
hey_monkey 453683
cabot (0):
Palmer_v1 274352
Palmer_v1 (0):
Dusk Soldier 571745
Bowlie (1)
Palmer_v1 812
StanleyPalmtree (1)
Haly 866
No active vote for Day 1: hatmoza, ultron87 (has previously voted), TheExodu5 (has previously voted)
Day 1 ends:
12 votes for majority
Dusk Soldier
Member
Hibernation has ended. Thanks Haly!
It's broken and unusable for now. Earliest date it goes up is tomorrow, but that's up to Royal.
Where is automatic counter human error is bad
It's broken and unusable for now. Earliest date it goes up is tomorrow, but that's up to Royal
.BlackBuzzard
Banned
Well i appreciate you doing it for the time being.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Hibernation has ended. Thanks Haly!
It's broken and unusable for now. Earliest date it goes up is tomorrow, but that's up to Royal
Ok thanks for answering. Sucks that it broke
This reasoning for this vote for me is pretty bizarre honestly, because I'm not sure how someone would even play different as a neutral. Neutral roles are usually solo, so they don't have some extra knowledge that they need to keep hidden like scum has. They're just as in the dark as town, and want everyone to think they're nothing special, so being confident that someone is neutral seems like a tough opinion to come to genuinely.
Care to explain some more, Dusk?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
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WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
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Vote: Zubz
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BlackBuzzard
Banned
Can you quote it pls.