BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yeah he has been constantly focused on game mechanics and his read list felt very general and minimal effort.
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Anime Mafia |OT| My Little Scum can't be this cute! ()
- Thread starter Burbeting
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Yeah he has been constantly focused on game mechanics and his read list felt very general and minimal effort.
To be honest, my vote on Zubz has mostly been a pressure vote to get more information out of him. While I am suspicious of him, it is still based on a pretty weak rationale: his involvement in the derail, and his very strange reaction where he jumped in to explain to Dragonz why I might have voted for him. He hasn't come back since to further explain, so I have been waiting.
Now that we are down to the wire though, two votes come out of nowhere to push Zubz into a tie for first. I don't think anyone can blame me for being suspicious of this. It doesn't help that both Kyanrute and Dragonz are on my scum watch-list.
Now that we are down to the wire though, two votes come out of nowhere to push Zubz into a tie for first. I don't think anyone can blame me for being suspicious of this. It doesn't help that both Kyanrute and Dragonz are on my scum watch-list.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
30years voting no lynch with no explanation why, is him just coasting and i don't like it, he could very well be scum.
The only the only thing he has contributed to is talking about game mechanics we don't know exist and how we should have patience and that the chance of lynching scum on day 1 is small all of these things set off alarm bells in my head.
As a request to Hatmoza can you give me reads on 4 players.
Skyodin comes off as an eager town. This is based nothing more than on previous experience. Early contributors like that usually turn out town.
Squidy honestly... I dunno. My initial read was "what a stupid thing to do so early in the game"... outting himself as the cop so early can make him subject to anti town power roles making him a source of confusion rather than aid. People are claiming he's a good enough player though. That move was pretty amateurish if he is a town.
I'll have to look back to who it was, but someone was quick to correct me with "a bigger game does not necessarily mean different odds of mislynching" when I implied it did. It came off as unproductive and scummy honestly. Was it Haly?
Other than that nothing has personally stuck out to me.
Now that we are down to the wire though, two votes come out of nowhere to push Zubz into a tie for first. I don't think anyone can blame me for being suspicious of this. It doesn't help that both Kyanrute and Dragonz are on my scum watch-list.
oh no people are voting
when they are supposed to be voting
oh no
Dusk Soldier
Member
I think nomadic-kun's play has been very candid. He's said a lot of things that i think he would have brought up in scum chat rather than here if he had access to it.This reasoning for this vote for me is pretty bizarre honestly, because I'm not sure how someone would even play different as a neutral. Neutral roles are usually solo, so they don't have some extra knowledge that they need to keep hidden like scum has. They're just as in the dark as town, and want everyone to think they're nothing special, so being confident that someone is neutral seems like a tough opinion to come to genuinely.
Care to explain some more, Dusk?
However, he seemed to hint at having a power when there was vote pressure on him, while at the same time refused to identify as town.
I'd be very surprised if he wasn't a neutral PR.
I wouldn't be getting nervous if your thoughts were actually transparent in any way, shape or form.oh no people are voting
when they are supposed to be voting
oh no
You are making a show of being opaque and hard to read.
I think nomadic-kun's play has been very candid. He's said a lot of things that i think he would have brought up in scum chat rather than here if he had access to it.
However, he seemed to hint at having a power when there was vote pressure on him, while at the same time refused to identify as town.
I'd be very surprised if he wasn't a neutral PR.
Oh I definitely misread that as you saying I was a neutral. So why are you voting for me then?
hey_monkey
Banned
To be honest, my vote on Zubz has mostly been a pressure vote to get more information out of him. While I am suspicious of him, it is still based on a pretty weak rationale: his involvement in the derail, and his very strange reaction where he jumped in to explain to Dragonz why I might have voted for him. He hasn't come back since to further explain, so I have been waiting.
Now that we are down to the wire though, two votes come out of nowhere to push Zubz into a tie for first. I don't think anyone can blame me for being suspicious of this. It doesn't help that both Kyanrute and Dragonz are on my scum watch-list.
Agreed. Dragons-senpai's reasoning is solid, I think, but having Kyan sail in and vote and then deflect when asked why puts it back into suspicion for me. Zubz's post Dragonz linked was a shady one and it may be inconsistent with town, but that's another one for my wait and see list.
Dusk Soldier
Member
Are you saying you're not scum?Oh I definitely misread that as you saying I was a neutral. So why are you voting for me then?
Agreed. Dragons-senpai's reasoning is solid, I think, but having Kyan sail in and vote and then deflect when asked why puts it back into suspicion for me. Zubz's post Dragonz linked was a shady one and it may be inconsistent with town, but that's another one for my wait and see list.
View it as deflection if you like. Was not deflection though.
Are you saying you're not scum?
Correct. I'm very anime.
Dusk Soldier
Member
I was going to reread the whole thread last night but then I got roped into live mafia and forgot about doing it. so instead I've been rereading Ultron's post history after voting for him in an attempt to shore up my opinion about him with some examples.
First of all, he missed major parts of a discussion which he blamed on skimming the thread at work. It can be hard to pay as much attention to all the threads going on when you're scum
Second of all he really seemed to buy into my cop claim and the idea that things would be definitive tomorrow. This reads to me like he's trying to set up a discussion tomorrow.
Third he argues "yeah i'm super suspicious but that's just how I am" which has always and continues to be a terrible argument for why you shouldn't be lynched.
FInally he hasn't done a whole lot of anything useful for town. He's made a couple minor corrections to misconceptions but beyond that I haven't seen anything particularly useful come from him.
First of all, he missed major parts of a discussion which he blamed on skimming the thread at work. It can be hard to pay as much attention to all the threads going on when you're scum
Second of all he really seemed to buy into my cop claim and the idea that things would be definitive tomorrow. This reads to me like he's trying to set up a discussion tomorrow.
Third he argues "yeah i'm super suspicious but that's just how I am" which has always and continues to be a terrible argument for why you shouldn't be lynched.
FInally he hasn't done a whole lot of anything useful for town. He's made a couple minor corrections to misconceptions but beyond that I haven't seen anything particularly useful come from him.
I'm driving for the next half hour or so.
where is my override?
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
I was going to reread the whole thread last night but then I got roped into live mafia and forgot about doing it. so instead I've been rereading Ultron's post history after voting for him in an attempt to shore up my opinion about him with some examples.
First of all, he missed major parts of a discussion which he blamed on skimming the thread at work. It can be hard to pay as much attention to all the threads going on when you're scum
Second of all he really seemed to buy into my cop claim and the idea that things would be definitive tomorrow. This reads to me like he's trying to set up a discussion tomorrow.
Third he argues "yeah i'm super suspicious but that's just how I am" which has always and continues to be a terrible argument for why you shouldn't be lynched.
FInally he hasn't done a whole lot of anything useful for town. He's made a couple minor corrections to misconceptions but beyond that I haven't seen anything particularly useful come from him.
So wait. You voted for him without having any real reasoning behind it?
Kind of lumping ultron in with palmer right now, I know he's a good player and sort of expecting him to step up as the game a advances.
Palmer has been alright today though, it's a lot more goodwill based with ultron.
Palmer has been useful, he's done things that I was going to do in a different way, he went after haly when I wanted to for example. It might not have amounted to to much but I don't think I need to give palmer goodwill to not vote for him today, his play has been fine enough to not be on my chopping block.
Ultron not so much.
Dusk Soldier, I have to admit that your behavior has been striking me as strange. I think you have been trying to scum hunt, and you have been pressing people with questions, which is town behavior.
At the same time, you have had an odd interest in secret chats, and have accused people of being neutral players for reasons I am not entirely able to follow.
At the same time, you have had an odd interest in secret chats, and have accused people of being neutral players for reasons I am not entirely able to follow.
Dusk Soldier
Member
Is this a question?Dusk Soldier, I have to admit that your behavior has been striking me as strange. I think you have been trying to scum hunt, and you have been pressing people with questions, which is town behavior.
At the same time, you have had an odd interest in secret chats, and have accused people of being neutral players for reasons I am not entirely able to follow.
So wait. You voted for him without having any real reasoning behind it?
I voted for him because I didn't like his play and I had a bad feeling about him. I went back today and substantiated that bad feeling with specific examples.
Is this a question?
It's an admission that I am scum-reading you. I would like to turn it into a question in order to get a better read on you, but I am struggling to think of one.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
You're not wrong. I'm going in a keyboard around half past in case.
Huh?
Just got out of work (Slept in this morning so no time for morning posts). Heck.
Well, ties are terrible (especially when I'm one of the 2 picks), Dragonz was on my list for fluff/artificial visibility anyway, & much like Odin on me, my Rac vote was just pressuring for info.
WheresMyDragonz
Well, ties are terrible (especially when I'm one of the 2 picks), Dragonz was on my list for fluff/artificial visibility anyway, & much like Odin on me, my Rac vote was just pressuring for info.
WheresMyDragonz
Huh?
On a keyboard I meant. Currently on mobile
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Just got out of work (Slept in this morning so no time for morning posts). Heck.
Well, ties are terrible (especially when I'm one of the 2 picks), Dragonz was on my list for fluff/artificial visibility anyway, & much like Odin on me, my Rac vote was just pressuring for info.
WheresMyDragonz
Forgot to put Vote: before the name.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
On a keyboard I meant. Currently on mobile
Ah okay yeah that makes sense. Was just a weird sentence.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Just got out of work (Slept in this morning so no time for morning posts). Heck.
Well, ties are terrible (especially when I'm one of the 2 picks), Dragonz was on my list for fluff/artificial visibility anyway, & much like Odin on me, my Rac vote was just pressuring for info.
WheresMyDragonz
riiight
Well, we are stuck with manual tabulation of votes for today, so I am not sure format is super critical yet.
ANyways, Zubz, since you are here and can defend yourself, care to answer my question from last night real quick? Why did you think it was your interactions with squidyj that were the basis of my suspicion for you?
ANyways, Zubz, since you are here and can defend yourself, care to answer my question from last night real quick? Why did you think it was your interactions with squidyj that were the basis of my suspicion for you?
I think lynching Dragonz today is a big mistake.
I am however gonna change my vote to Stanley Palm Tree because... I don't have a good feeling about him in general, that's all.
Vote: Stanley Palm Tree
why is voting dragons a big mistake?
Dusk Soldier
Member
I'm not scummy.Why are you so scummy, dusk?
Asking for a friend.
You're welcome.
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
hey_monkey
Banned
I am considering changing my vote from Dusk Soldier to Kyanrute. I may be suspicious of Dusk but I'm not sure it's scum behavior. It's hard for me to tell because I don't know what's typical. Kyanrute, though, seems in general to be acting against town interest.
Am open to being convinced in a number of directions, though.
Am open to being convinced in a number of directions, though.
hey_monkey
Banned
And I dont want this to be a distraction but live mafia last night taught me not to sit on things - after doing some re-reading, I am relatively certain there is in fact some Cupiding happening and we should bring that back up later when it's prudent and we have more info.
On this one specifically I wasn't really buying into it, mostly just taking it as the air it was. Randomly saying you're a cop on Day 1 under no pressure means nothing to us. So we can see tomorrow if you're sticking to it or not.Second of all he really seemed to buy into my cop claim and the idea that things would be definitive tomorrow. This reads to me like he's trying to set up a discussion tomorrow.
I'll have to look back to who it was, but someone was quick to correct me with "a bigger game does not necessarily mean different odds of mislynching" when I implied it did. It came off as unproductive and scummy honestly. Was it Haly?
That was me.
It's hard to keep track but Zubz is tied with Ultron for leader at 3 right now, Stanley at 2, WMD at 2.
the only other kyan vote was polt claiming his post had no substanceI am considering changing my vote from Dusk Soldier to Kyanrute. I may be suspicious of Dusk but I'm not sure it's scum behavior. It's hard for me to tell because I don't know what's typical. Kyanrute, though, seems in general to be acting against town interest.
Am open to being convinced in a number of directions, though.
Does a kyan vote help right now?
On this one specifically I wasn't really buying into it, mostly just taking it as the air it was. Randomly saying you're a cop on Day 1 under no pressure means nothing to us. So we can see tomorrow if you're sticking to it or not.
you said i'd either be dead or have a result.n
Im sorry I didn't also add "or not a result because he wasn't serious". That post was just arguing that doing anything or spending energy thinking about your claim on Day 1 wasn't worth it.you said i'd either be dead or have a result.n
I also don't see how any of this is scummy.