If me looking for an arsonist was scummy yesterday, what's this then?
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If me looking for an arsonist was scummy yesterday, what's this then?
Every player is judged on a curve though. You know comparing posters isn't apples to apples. Dislike this post you Welshman.
you also missed this :
polt, talk to me. What are your current thoughts of the game?
Well he hasn't given me a reason why he townreads Cewyn. When I look there I see nothing of real value.
Also his logic of newbie scum bussing fellow scum for entire game until he became a lynch candidate makes little sense. I'm sure a scum team would've advised to back him away from that.
So you don't think scum cewyn wouldn't bus scum rac here for town cred?
I don't strongly read rac, the best comparison I can make is El Topo, he always reads scum to me but he's been Town (apart from neutral once)
rac generally turns up to answer prods (albeit frustratingly vaguely) and does offer some opinions.
Cewyn I'm much more used to dramatic plays, they usually pull whacky stunts whenever they're town.
He's been absolutely muted this game which is cause for concern.
Fake double not dramatic enough?
That entirely depends on how many scum are under any pressure at all. If it's one scum + townies we are suspecting, bussing is an easy decision to walk in with the 3 scum win rather than risk exposing the other three to protect the 4th.
Find your "oh yea but that's take for them any ways" disturbingly weak.
Listen, I'm on mobile and don't have the time or the ability to sift through thousands of posts. I do the best I can through a quick search and my own recollection. I had in fact forgotten any not taken squidy's views into account when making my reads list. This is why I'm opening up a discussion. My reads are not set in stone and I'd rather present my viewpoint and talk about it than keep it to myself and risk lynching someone due to my own misconception.
Yea but I expect it from them and not you.
And we come full circle to the grading on a curve idea.
your reads should be a pretty good idea of where your head's at, instead your response reads like 'my reads will be shaped by everyone around me'
That's fine, I don't expect that from Cewyn.
I don't know what to expect from rac because he's new, but my experience tells me I don't read this type of player well.
Responding to good points and arguments against a read is completely understandable. I don't read exo as saying "I'm a malleable shapeless read machine" but more so I'll change a read in response to evidence contrary to my internal narrative surrounding someone. I know you wouldn't know what that's like tunnel master, sir, but it is another way to play this game we call life.
Okay, lets ignore my initial thoughts on squidy.
Cabot, what is your reservation for voting rac? You believe that scum would be sufficiently coached to not vote how he has? So why his fixation on Polter, and why the cold feet when Polter actually had some votes on him?
In my experience with GAFIA, scum aren't well oiled and consistent machines. People still largely play as individuals, and most posts are not subject to scrutiny from the scum team. Rather, scum teams usually result to damage control to deflect suspicion.
Cabot, what is your reservation for voting rac? You believe that scum would be sufficiently coached to not vote how he has? So why his fixation on Polter, and why the cold feet when Polter actually had some votes on him?
In my experience with GAFIA, scum aren't well oiled and consistent machines. People still largely play as individuals, and most posts are not subject to scrutiny from the scum team. Rather, scum teams usually result to damage control to deflect suspicion.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Sorry i wasn't here on day 1 very busy day, gonna go read up on what i missed.
did you miss the one that i posted yesterday?
just wanna say
how is this peculiar? if you are town and i am scum i unvote you for what reason exactly?
I don't like how this game is going so far but I also think I am too blame because Cabot is right. My game has been weak, too weak and it's hurting town.
However, I am just a vanilla town with no ordinary role or a scum player.
I suggest we all role-claim (well some of you already have) and go from there... It feels like the game is getting to the point where scum can control 70% of the conversation and persuade unknowing townies.
I gotta give major props to cabot for prodding and asking the hard questions for other players, but if he were to flip scum then I would facepalm my self so bad because I legitimately trust him and believe he is town.
I feel the same way about Kawl, a concerned townie for now. That's pretty much it for the peoplpe I believe are town. Other than that, I can't really figure out the other players. It's been like this for most of the game. Other than squid's fluff claims, I can't see much difference as far as intent for many of the players, except for the two I mentioned. I do feel uneasy about rac and dragonz.
However, I am just a vanilla town with no ordinary role or a scum player.
I suggest we all role-claim (well some of you already have) and go from there... It feels like the game is getting to the point where scum can control 70% of the conversation and persuade unknowing townies.
I gotta give major props to cabot for prodding and asking the hard questions for other players, but if he were to flip scum then I would facepalm my self so bad because I legitimately trust him and believe he is town.
I feel the same way about Kawl, a concerned townie for now. That's pretty much it for the peoplpe I believe are town. Other than that, I can't really figure out the other players. It's been like this for most of the game. Other than squid's fluff claims, I can't see much difference as far as intent for many of the players, except for the two I mentioned. I do feel uneasy about rac and dragonz.
I said like three posts before this that I struggle to read rac's playstyle well.
As for your second point, were you scum in your first game?
I want to say Harry Potter (which would be a yes)
How did you communicate with your scum team then?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
If we role claim there is no going back but if we role claim it needs to be flavor text and all.
oreomunsta
Banned
I like your intention Cewyn, but this is the safest, and therefore most likely claim we can all make.
I'm vanilla Town, but does that actually help you or anyone else?
I think what we need to do is look at behavior of players, both current and past
You two are certainly not helping town, claiming ordinary like this before the end of game is letting scum narrow down target choices for any remaining PRs.
oreomunsta
Banned
Scum can believe us or they don't. It's just a claim, at the end of the day.
Scum should know we're Town, especially after the neutral was eliminated :/
Not if everyone claims.
if everyone claims truthfully then the PRs are out in the open.
If everyone claims and someone lies, then it's most likely gonna be everyone claiming ordinary. Which isn't helpful.
I've been scum in 2 games. HP and Persona. And yes, my first game was as scum. I played a largely individual game and never received any coaching besides help with a potential role claim. My experience as scum has always been largely individual, and I've never seen evidence of a big, coordinated scum unit.
there is evidence of coordinated scum units though, outwith yourself.
Animal Crossing is the most successful one I can think of.
I think at this point scum pretty much knows who the remaining PR's are...
Even if no one role claims, next night a PR townie will die. I'm willing to bet on that.
Poltergust
Member
It kinda goes without saying, but things are looking grim. I'm worried because all of my previous scum reads turned out to be town, so it's becoming increasingly hard to trust my own opinion on things.
I think my only strong read on anyone at this point is on oreo, who I think is town. My logic for this is based on my last post. Unfortunately, this doesn't really help me when it comes to deciding who to lynch for today.
You know, outside of hatmoza (whose ability was limited to just 3 days), none of the other dead townspeople had investigatory roles. At this point, I doubt that anything new will come forward on that end, and that really sucks.
I can't possibly know the answer to that question because I don't know what's going on inside your head. Feel free to clarify at any time.
only because we've aided scum with all the ordinary claims.
Or did we?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
We kinda did.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
It just feels staged. Like they're trying to bus each other, but not TOO hard just in case it gains traction. The confrontation is weak and doesn't feel genuine
Poltergust
Member
I dunno about you guys, but I feel that whatever has been going on between rac and me throughout this game has been completely one-sided.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
These vague ass role claims just feel like bait.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
do a full claim with flavor or else I'm gonna go ahead and say it's bullshit
flatearthpandas
Member
Sorry, was sick yesterday. 皆さん、本当にごめんね
Poltergust
Member
I've been sick for the entirety of the game. NO EXCUSES.
flatearthpandas
Member
I hope that isn't meant to explain your scumminess. At this point the only person I would really want to change my vote to would be rac. Some of those posts this day phase have been weird. They gave me a cornered impression but I don't really know why. Seems to have chilled as votes accrued.
Poltergust
Member
Um, it's not like I have dementia or anything lol. Just a very, very annoying case of strep throat. >_>