It's still in the top 5 and that alone doesn't address my point in regards to reddits ranking being a joke.
It just went back in the top 5, not that it is still in the top 5.
Also your claim that Reddits ranking is a joke is still unfounded. It's nothing more than "I say X is this because I say so". It is not my job to prove that it's not a joke because I'm not the one who needs to prove the positive. Plus, your claim that Reddit rankings are a joke reeks of rationalization, aka wishful thinking.
Oh and btw, Shield Hero is #4 for this week.
Ah, no.
Incels are involuntarily celebate. That's it. Yeah, there's that misogynistic bunch who got notorious on Reddit and think women should bow down to them but if you frame it by that definition then you're missing out on a whole range of people that the term at least originally covered. That said, it's my bad for not knowing that this place only sees them as women haters.
This is merely a super simplified definition that omits the context. Here's a passage on Wikipedia that supports the definition I shared:
"Discussions in incel
forums are often characterized by
resentment,
misanthropy,
[1] self-pity,
[10] self-loathing,
[11] misogyny,
[12] racism,
[12] a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against sexually active people.
[8][9][13][14][12] The American nonprofit
Southern Poverty Law Center described the subculture as "part of the online
male supremacist ecosystem" that is included in their
list of hate groups."
Also, you've got it backwards. I know incels, not shield hero fans and just because I said shield hero attracts them doesn't mean I'm saying "every person that likes shield hero are incels".
This is a strawman fallacy because I didn't say you were labeling every fan as an incel. The point I was making was that based on the nature of what incels are, it would not make sense for them to like Shield Hero based on its depiction of female characters such as Raphtalia and the queen.
A harem can refer to a group of women singled around one man (
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harem). This is why characters who aren't technically part of a characters harem are sometimes included. I'm honestly not going to get too deep into it because I'm not the one who made those comments nor do I care about the meaning of the term and how it should be used.
Then why don't people call love triangles harems?
Like I said before these aren't actually my comments. I was mainly paraphrasing what other people have said (note that I was originally responding to someone commenting on not having heard anything about it, I actually wouldn't be having this conversation if I'd realised you weren't the same person). But yeah, I think it's dumb.
Then make your own arguments instead.
>relying on a game mechanic magic system on a supposed real fantasy world
Lazy writing but kind of a gripe on isekais in general, so meh, right?
So what constitutes as "lazy"? This isn't really an argument.
>Generic "Run-of-the-mill" Otaku
Lazy writing again. You might as well write "self-insert template" on his forehead. But we haven't even gotten to the actual story yet and again, this isn't exactly new when it comes to isekais
However, the story doesn't really dwell on that fact anyways. I wouldn't call it lazy, but generic.
>Naofumi goes from wronged party to angry resentful kid way too fast.
False accusations are a pretty serious thing, especially when it comes to rape. You do NOT get that hateful that quickly, especially when no one is in your corner. What you do get is scared. Very scared and in a foreign land where no one believes you. Shield Hero skips out on that. I don't even care for suffering that much but it was lacking. YouTube false accusations cases for comparison. Those guys look broken, not angry and that's in our world and with a support group.
This doesn't address the fact that Naofumi would die by the time the next wave comes if he doesn't do anything. He has no time to be scared, so he uses his resentment as motivation for his self-preservation. His goal is to return home and to do that means to survive. Him getting hateful makes perfect sense given the situation he was thrust into. Just because you cite examples where victims of false rape accusations don't get angry, that doesn't mean that it is improbable.
>One-dimensional characters
I understand the citizens shunning Naofumi, but the other heroes not so much. Suspension of belief is repeatedly challenged in Spear Hero's case (I really shouldnt have to explain this) and when the other two act, it's suspiciously convenient for the plot. They go from uncaring people who treat the world like a video game to voices of reason after his duel with Spear hero then back to being uncaring. It's a reoccurring thing that varies from character to character and ultimately it gives off a vibe that each of them is designed to be specific way for specific reaction (versus characters from other stories who feel their own person thus events feel like they unfold organically). Raphtalia might be an exception but she treads dangerously close to being an Asuna clone in role and mannerisms.
Ah, this is a case of you not paying close enough attention and the anime leaves out several hints throughout. Motoyasu's biggest character flaw is that he too gullible and Naofumi points this out in Ep 19. Ren and Itsuki calling Malty out on her cheating isn't for plot convenience. They are acting according to their moral compasses that they grew up with in their alternate Japans. The reason why the nobles pretended that they didn't see anything is because of them growing up with the Three Heroes Church doctrine. In fact, the anime hinted at the religion as soon as Ep 3 when it showed the Bow, Spear, and Sword on the capital church's spires.
Also to complain that Ren and Itsuki go from uncaring people who treat the world like a video game to being voices of reason isn't logical. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. They can both be voices of reason and still be fixated on the notion that the world runs according to their RPGs' mechanics. Them being the voice of reason after the dual was driven by something unrelated to their gaming knowledge. Not to mention, you complain about one-dimensional characters and yet, you end up citing 2 characters who aren't one-dimensional inadvertently.
Thats about all that I can be bothered with. It's exhausting trying to remember things about something you don't really care about. I didn't even get to Filo or Myne and the King, or the Wave of Catastrophe. Granted, I'm aware that they can be considered minor issues but all of them put together in a series that takes itself so seriously and can be heavy handed with the drama is pretty grating.
So, let me say this. I don't hate the series, the Spice and Wolf parts are pretty neat but there is validity when people say the writing is stupid/shallow/whatever general blanket term people want to call it.
Reminder I'm running off a year and half memory here so your not going to get much more discussion out of me.
Well that lack of memory is quite apparent... If you want to make a claim, at least have the decency to prepare to back it up.
