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[totowhoa]

Yes, but LostVoyager is on a crusade to name every disenfranchised group, so give him time, he'll get there.

Yeah let's just have more WSHH threads and quit this serious talk stuff, it's really been bogging down the OT the last two weeks.

Surprised he hasn't got to people with ginger hair and those people that try to mug you for charity donations when you walk down the street.

Valid point, let's lock this thread up and move on.

His black spiderman comment was not that thought out, but the threads have been fine. It's fine discussion.

 

[radioheadrule83]

Anti semitism is disgusting and I wouldn't deny it as an ongoing reality, but I personally feel that anti Muslim, anti Arab sentiment is way way more virulent throughout the world at the moment. The distrust and fear and judgement that has been whipped up is at ridiculous levels, and everyone seems to find it justifiable to think in such terms. There have been far more innocent Muslims killed and people deprived of freedom in the last 12 years than western soldiers or civilians, even in those unforgettable attacks.. and the prejudice western domiciled Muslims have to face is insane. If I could respawn in real life and pick my avatar from scratch, I wouldn't pick anything Arabic or Eurasian or Indian / Pakistani, or anything that would otherwise make me a target for such hate. I really wouldn't. I'd much rather be Jewish or something! Preferably still in Britain or in the US mind you, some countries have more dangerous climates than others..

 

[Necromanti]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C80Jp6qb8II

I grew up in the Middle East, and this is unfortunately a very common reaction to Jews. Granted, where I grew up it is illegal for you to be in the country at all if you are a Jew so I wouldn't have ever seen such an interaction, but the anti-Jewish sentiment is very strong. Due to certain interpretations of the Qur'an (and a hadith here and there), actions by Israel seen in a certain light, as well as pervasive social propaganda, the Jew has effectively become the boogeyman of the Arab world.

If you dislike someone, want to insult them, or even make fun of them jokingly, you can call them a يهود (or Jew). "Zionism" is responsible for everything bad in the world. There is just such an intense, irrational hatred and fear underlying many Muslim and Arab communities. If you were suspected of actually being a Jew in certain places, death is a surety (perhaps even by law).

Pokémon cards actually got banned for a while because they were suspected of being used as tool of Zionist propaganda for unsuspecting Muslim children, and with each card bought, you were funding a missile against Palestine.

In short, it is scary how much irrational hatred there is in the world towards people of different ethnic/religious/political groups, and how it is perpetuated. Racism and discrimination are big problems in the Middle East, but unfortunately, the region has bigger problems it need to address before it can do something about that.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

Antisemitism doesn't need to be stopped, racism needs to be stopped. There is no reason to single out antisemitism. I'm sure black people and muslims still get discriminated against too.

I think the issue with those terms is someone can be both ethnically Jewish and religiously so. The two aren't intertwined. Otherwise, how could the Nazis believe godless communism to be a "Jewish plot"?

On the other hand, Islamophobia is religious discrimination/persecution, although someone that is ethnically Arab could be discriminated against on the belief that they are a Muslim.

 

[Gustav]

I'm not discussing this stuff on GAF. SoccerGoaliePros ban is reason enough to keep my mouth shut.

 

[RevDM]

Antisemitism exists at the level of the individual. It's hillbillys and radical Islamists. On the other hand, Israeli government and non Israeli's actively and openly expresses its disdain for Islam. The Canadians just closed their embassy in Iran for no reason other than "Islam is a threat."

 

[teruterubozu]

Yeah let's just have more WSHH threads and quit this serious talk stuff, it's really been bogging down the OT the last two weeks.

I want more I can't sleep threads, actually.

 

[Dead Man]

1. I don't believe Jews building homes in the West Bank is evil.

2. Even if I did, I still wouldn't give it equal air-time to 400,000 innocent people being slaughtered in Darfur, or 20,000+ in Syria or any other crime against humanity.

Can a Jewish person build a house on the West Bank and be ethical and moral bout it? Of course. Are the settlements? No. Why do you think it is not a wrong thing to do?

 

[Mista Koo]

That the phrase has come to exclude Arabs is not a vast conspiracy. That's how language works sometimes.

Excluding some Semitic people? That's antisemitic!

 

[saveweyard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythrdCsOFJU

Also, on a more serious note, what the f**k is Pat Robertson talking about: http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/04/23/robertsons-bizarre-screed-on-anti-semitism/

 

[QuicheFontaine]

Again, a worthy cause I guess. But put me down as a +1 for the 'LostVoyager is irrating' camp. Well meaning, but all these threads? He's like some parochial vicar.

 

[Yka]

A. Yes, a lot of people think any criticism of the Israeli government is grounds for Antisemitism. Including the Israeli government.

That is so crazy. Same thing when you are for example criticising government's immigration policies and you are immediately called a rasist (no personal experience but I have heard that it happens). There's no room for middle ground common sense opinions and suggestions. You are either with us in the extremes or against us.

 

[Cromat]

I don't see how it matters? In an ideal world we would give the conflicts in Africa the same attention as we give the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Not switch our focus from one conflict to another.



It probably gets more air time over all where I live. And it's not like they run a story that is "NEWSFLASH: THIS JUST IN - 400 000 PEOPLE KILLED OVER NIGHT IN DARFUR". It's an ongoing conflict and the media report about it continuously. Just like they do with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

I think it's undeniable that the Arab-Israeli conflict gets a lot more attention than it objectively deserves in light of the some of the atrocities going on every day around the world.

 

[Tedesco!]

The fuck?

...

Man, seriously? It's literally never happened to me.

Jewish people need to move out of the goddamn flyover states. Fuck.

But I like it here.....

 

[JordanN]

I'm Jewish as well, but I think this topic is silly. I think LV just picked this Ism so people would have to be on his side.

And as a Jew, I think Israel has a terrible government on par or worse than most other of the awful governments in the region. The way they use Antisemitism for any criticism thrown their was is gross, as is how that government uses the Holocaust constantly for political purposes. The West's (primarily America's) weird guilt protection thing has never made much sense to me. I understand that the West wants an ally in the region for stability, but there has been nothing about Israel that has ever brought stability to the region and America having such a hard on for it only makes thing worse for all parties.

There isn't and shouldn't be anything inherently Antisemetic about having negative views of Israel. It has an objectively shitty government.

Lol, what BS. Just consider Israel is a democracy. That alone sets them higher than most of the Middle East.

And Israel does alot for stability. They destroyed Iraq's nuclear facility at a time when Saddam was showing signs of expansionism.

 

[Enosh]

Lol, what BS. Just consider Israel is a democracy. That alone sets them higher than most of the Middle East.

I have to disagree with this, being a democracy doesn't by itself make you any better or worse

 

[JordanN]

I have to disagree with this, being a democracy doesn't by itself make you any better or worse

Fine, than be it Israel has a better commitment to human rights.

 

[Orayn]

I'm not discussing this stuff on GAF. SoccerGoaliePros ban is reason enough to keep my mouth shut.

He wasn't banned for anything in this thread.

And for the record, don't do this. If you don't actually have anything to contribute to a topic, don't drop into a thread and make a passive-aggressive comment about how sharing your real opinion might get you banned.

 

[Salvadora]

I'm not discussing this stuff on GAF. SoccerGoaliePros ban is reason enough to keep my mouth shut.

He was banned for creating the hot women thread.

 

[Stinkles]

Not really. But a lot of forms of racism given where I'm from were less obvious or kept at home. The worst I tended to hear was Jew as some sort of pejorative for "cheap."

As a Scotsman, I know that feel, Bro-seph.

 

[BSTF]

Definitely seeing too much anti-Semetism hidden behind the anti-Zionism card. Some people just are way too obsessed with Israel, when they're the greatest country in the region. Most of these people care greatly about Palestinians, but show little concern for the Kurds. Care greatly about Israel receiving aid and "abusing" it, but little about the aid going to dictators that attack their own people. And criticize Israel when 2 rogue officers use white phosphorous and are punished, but won't condemn the thousands of rocket attacks on Israel, backed by Hamas.

 

[JABEE]

As a Scotsman, I know that feel, Bro-seph.

People that look at the "cheap" comment about Jewish people and think it's benign ignore the ways that Hitler used imagery like that to convince people that Jewish people were the reason for the crumbling of the German economy and hyperinflation. Those comments about being "cheap" or thrifty come from centuries of anti-semitism in Western Culture. FDR knew about the concentration camps in Germany and did nothing to stop them. Those stereotypes poison culture and dehumanize large groups of people.

 

[flippymittens]

So is singling out the US anti-christian now? Antisemitism is being reduced to a smear word anymore. It's lost it's meaning because it's thrown around so flippantly by anyone who wants to cry foul because they're not being blindly supported. I think American lives and money lost to support Israel is despicable. How quickly are you going to deem me antisemitic because of it?

Lets drop the fucking game here, criticism of Israel is only that - criticism of Israel. Hate speech about Jewish people is antisemitic. They are not the same thing.

I am not saying that criticism of Israel is antisemitic just that some criticism and singling out of Israel is kind of antisemitic.

It's pretty clear that criticism of Israel is often issued with double standards. Latent anti-Semitism is just one of the reasons though.

This. I am not saying all criticism of Israel is invalid just alot of the criticism of Israel falls under a double standard.

LostVoyager, all your opinions pretty much fit the Anti-German political standpoint, are you in any way affiliated with them? Did you support the Iraq War?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antideutsch

They are one of the most obscure currents of German politics, pathetic and yet interesting at the same time, calling themselves left, but having alot in comment with the right-wing.

I do not support war so no, but I do not protest.

Killing civilians can NEVER be justified...

The United States kills civilians all the time.

I'm Jewish. This topic is commendable.


But LostVoyager is annoying as fuck. He comes across like a freshman in college who's actually learning in-depth about civil issues for the first time, and immediately, feeling outraged, goes to NeoGAF to post about it.

Well I have only learned about anti-semitism in the discussion of the holocaust in a history class in like middle school. Lookism and heightism I have yet to hear about in an academic setting. Racism and sexism are talked about a little but I probably do not hear much about them because I do not take classes where they are discussed I guess.
I digress though because this topic is not about me, so whether I am annoying or not does not matter.

Can I assume by the threads you have created so far that you are a poor, ugly, short, Jew, white, gay person?

I am not short (well given the average size of the US male being like 5'9/5'10 I am basically in the average).
I am not Jewish, homosexual, or really poor but does that mean I can not recognize discrimination? This topic is not about me, it is about antisemitism.

This.

But, yeah, anti-semitism is shitty. As are other forms of prejudice.

Also, please don't talk about the Palestinian conflict in this thread, guys. This shit doesn't need to be derailed.

Yeah should I remove the Israel reference from my post? I did not mean to offend anyone I just feel that some criticism of Israel is antisemitic not all.

 

[Cromat]

I frequently visit worldwide news sites like The Economist website. Every article about Israel is immediately in the top spot for comments, and the comments area is 90% people paraphrasing Mein Kampf.

So yeah, it's alive and kicking, and not just in the Middle East.

 

[Joel Was Right]

Definitely seeing too much anti-Semetism hidden behind the anti-Zionism card. Some people just are way too obsessed with Israel, when they're the greatest country in the region. Most of these people care greatly about Palestinians, but show little concern for the Kurds. Care greatly about Israel receiving aid and "abusing" it, but little about the aid going to dictators that attack their own people. And criticize Israel when 2 rogue officers use white phosphorous and are punished, but won't condemn the thousands of rocket attacks on Israel, backed by Hamas.

People can often be found behaving hypocritically, but this isn't uncommon in politics and foreign policy discussions. Noticing hypocrisy when it comes to the Middle East and Israel doesn't mean the individual is antisemitic. Bias against Israel, yes, but antisemitic? I remain highly unconvinced by this rationale

 

[DTKT]

I frequently visit worldwide news sites like The Economist website. Every article about Israel is immediately in the top spot for comments, and the comments area is 90% people paraphrasing Mein Kampf.

So yeah, it's alive and kicking, and not just in the Middle East.

Comments on the internet, or the internet as a whole, is probably the worst way to figure something about humans.

 

[Redford]

What's the point of this thread? Ban-bait, circlejerking? I don't thread-shit often but come on man.

 

[Brera]

Loads of banned members in this thread.

Was going to a make a conspiracy joke but I value my account!

 

[FunkyMunkey]

What's up with these defend-a-random-group topics? It's like your drawing things from a hat and posting a topic on it.

We've got:

Lookism
Heightism
and now antisemitism

Frankly I'm tired of this crap. Antisemitism is at least a real issue. It's like you a chose it in an attempt to add relevancy to your previous -ism topics.

Coming up next from LostVoyager: Topics on Clownism, Technologism, followed by Racism.

 

[Switters]

As a persecuted ginger, I demand that LV make a thread.

 

[strobogo]

Ok.



Your vitriol against Israel is irrelevant to this thread. That said, I would caution you to keep the bullshit to a minimum. Israel is considerably better than any other country in the region on issues such as women's rights, homosexuality, freedom of speech/press, support for 3rd World countries etc.

Regardless, double standards and unparalleled expectations for Israel is a recognized form of anti-semitism.

EDIT:

I just want to say, I somewhat agree with the premise re this thread. How inevitable was it that a thread on the need to end anti-semitism would turn into an Israel-bait, semantics argument or flat out denial anti-semitism even exists?



I think 400,000 people being slaughtered is worth slightly more air-time than Jews building houses in the West Bank, don't you?

I don't understand. Are you implying that I'm Antisemetic against my own people because I don't like the government of Israel? Because there are a LOT of Jews that feel the Israeli government is not good and shits up the whole premise of the Jewish Homeland. Or maybe I'm just a shitty Jew. I did have cookies on Yom Kippur, after all. I didn't really feel bad about it. They were the best cookies I've ever had. They're sugar cookies that taste like CAKE! They are fantastic.

 

[squidyj]

Ok.



Your vitriol against Israel is irrelevant to this thread. That said, I would caution you to keep the bullshit to a minimum. Israel is considerably better than any other country in the region on issues such as women's rights, homosexuality, freedom of speech/press, support for 3rd World countries etc.

Regardless, double standards and unparalleled expectations for Israel is a recognized form of anti-semitism.

EDIT:

I just want to say, I somewhat agree with the premise re this thread. How inevitable was it that a thread on the need to end anti-semitism would turn into an Israel-bait, semantics argument or flat out denial anti-semitism even exists?



I think 400,000 people being slaughtered is worth slightly more air-time than Jews building houses in the West Bank, don't you?

this different standards thing applies well in individual interactions but completely falls apart on the world stage as the expectations for various nations all around the world are vastly different before and without any application of discrimination. It is in fact Israel's success in terms of issues like human rights that require us to demand better from the nation than it's neighbours. If israel is capable of being progressive on those issues, why then is it not able to behave better in it's actions towards the palestinians?

You can't crow about how much better you are than your neighbours on one hand and then whine about how you're being held to a higher standard than them on the other, it's ridiculous.

 

[Dead Man]

I don't understand. Are you implying that I'm Antisemetic against my own people because I don't like the government of Israel? Because there are a LOT of Jews that feel the Israeli government is not good and shits up the whole premise of the Jewish Homeland. Or maybe I'm just a shitty Jew. I did have cookies on Yom Kippur, after all. I didn't really feel bad about it. They were the best cookies I've ever had. They're sugar cookies that taste like CAKE! They are fantastic.

New favourite member

 

[flippymittens]

Any racism is bad...

Everyone is stereotyped. Everyone is attacked. It's all bullshit and should all be stopped. Not just against Jewish people.

I never said other forms of discrimination are good. This is just a more specialized topic because if we had on general discrimination thread it would not be able to dispel certain beliefs.

It's not as big a problem, but the vast majority of religiously motivated hate crimes in the US are still against Jews.



Alluding the Jews are involved in a banking conspiracy that runs the World is even more uncalled for, yet you don't seem as upset about that.

Woah that is pretty bad, if I had to take a guess before that link I would assume Islam was the most discriminated against religion based on hate crimes.

I never understood the banking theories and connecting dots where they do not exist to imply one group controls the world. I mean if there was some secret world order I would think that they would silence those spreading the secret. Furthermore if said organization was Jewish I do not think they would let antisemitic people into positions of power.

LostVoyager, standing up for the world's downtrodden. Such a noble soul.

Antisemitism can't be fixed. Just have to do our best to keep it from ever becoming institutionalized again.

Nah I am nothing special, just the commoner condemning what is wrong (also this thread is not about me). Also regardless of whether a form of discrimination can or can not be fixed it is our duty to try.

Keep fighting the good fight, LostVoyager.

Thanks for the support but this topic is not about me. Thank you though.

I'm Jewish as well, but I think this topic is silly. I think LV just picked this Ism so people would have to be on his side...There isn't and shouldn't be anything inherently Antisemetic about having negative views of Israel...

What side, am I at war or something? Again the thread is not about me.Also I am not saying criticism of Israel is antisemitic and I can remove the part of my original post discussing it if you all want. I am saying some criticism of Israel is sometimes rooted in antisemitism.

I hate whoever created the term antisemitic, instead of just calling it anti-Jewish and avoiding the unnecessary "antisemitism is not only against Jews" crap.

When people say antisemitism they mean hate for Jews. Just install an addon to your browser that changes it to anti-Jew if it troubles you that much.

Also, if anyone doesn't think the Israeli-Arab conflict receives a special amount of attention they're deluding themselves.

In Darfur, 400,000 people died in 5 years. In the Arab world +50,000 people died this year from government crackdowns. That's almost half of the death toll of the ENTIRE Israeli-Arab conflict on ALL sides (including Israelis).

There's a ton of valid criticism to be leveled against Israel, but there is also a ton of hypocrisy that goes with it.

This I agree noone is saying all criticism of Israel is wrong but many times the criticism is hypocritical and sometimes rooted in bigotry.

Antisemitism doesn't need to be stopped, racism needs to be stopped. There is no reason to single out antisemitism. I'm sure black people and muslims still get discriminated against too.

The point here is to focus discussion. Of course you are correct, though

I could not have said it better.

 

[Oersted]

I'm going to get slammed for this, but here it goes.

I don't like the term anti-semite, it's absolutely ridiculous.

First of all, anyone trying to deny that the western world was shaped entirely by the Rothschilds and central bankers is just turning a blind eye and wallowing in their arrogance by acting as if they and their forefathers 'control their own destiny'. The majority of movements funded by these groups have molded society into what we see today in America; the classes completely out of balance. Not to great for the everyman, paradise for those above the bracket. We have a tendency to 'live for the day' and embrace 'feel-good' philosophies that may be detrimental to our well-being in the long run both financial and biologically. It's hard for me to feel sorry for people that are downtrodden in finances or doped up on pills to cope with depression and borderline personality disorder (which studies have shown is almost an exclusively 'western' dysfunction) because they defend the very poison that is making them ill. The west is like a 3 year old who doesn't want to go to bed before their parents do, they don't understand that this will make them feel the next day. Staying up makes them feel good right now, so why shouldn't they have fun?

But let's completely ignore that and go to the racial part of the term anti-semite that bothers me.

If Ashkenazis Jews want to claim that they are semite, that's fine but they don't have a monopoly on the word.

I'm not a supporter of Israel or Zionism, in fact I vehemently oppose both. I sympathize with the Palestinians and have many Arab friends.

Many other middle-easterners are Semitic, including Arabs.

It's like saying that someone is 'anti-Korean' if they oppose the policies, philosophies, and way of life of North Koreans. Nobody should have to feel guilty for being displeased with the actions and policies of a culture, but disliking an individual, another human life, based purely on race is ridiculous.

you know the term antisemitism was used by the nazis to make their beliefs semiscientific and should disguise their hate against jews?

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

For anyone wondering why he started this thread it's because he didn't get a joke

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41926263&postcount=112

I guess we can file this under lostvoyagerism

 

[OttomanScribe]

Points about a double standard when it comes to criticism of Israel are a paper shield.

The reality is that the displacement of the Palestinian people and the ongoing occupation is an issue of ongoing political significance. That people have strong opinions about it is not automatically about anti-semitism. In many cases it has everything to do with personal investment in the issue in question.

I would love if people would pay more attention to Africa's Great War, or the ongoing situation in Xinjiang, or the Rohingya or whatever. Hell, I'd love if even zionists started to pay attention to this stuff rather than harping on about Darfur under the guise of concern. Unfortunately people don't like those things because they like simple narratives.

You can't go up to someone and say 'well you see there was a genocide in Rwanda, the consequences of which set off an ongoing conflict in DRC, now let me list the 20 various major ethnic/tribal/political groups involved and we can start listing some war crimes'. People want 'so the Jews came in and ethnically cleansed the Arabs and made a state that the US viewed as an eventual God-send in the form of an aircraft carrier in the middle of the ME.

People paying attention to narratives they understand isn't a sign of anti-semitism.

As to Syria... seriously, that post a while back was such garbage. People in my community talk more about Syria than they do about Israel these days. A man who I prayed behind was killed there fighting against the regime. If there are less protests it is because who the hell do people protest against, not like the US or any of the countries we are talking about are in a position to do much beyond what they are already doing.

 

[flippymittens]

Im gonna tell you this straight up.... as a black person..those numbers for people that have anti semetic views...is low. College on a big campus and floors full of people thousands to a dorm...i was SHOCKED. I was always under the impression that since they were on the brink you dont even comment on anything jewish/holocaust, just show respect like i would want for my ancestors that had to deal with lynchings/jim crow/discrimination etc. These kids were letting the jew jokes fly like they were knock knock jokes. Which made me wonder how much they heard that shit growing up. Even if their defense is oh just jokes, you gotta wonder how much of this stereotyping is going on that it disseminates down to the children THAT prevalently. And unfortunately i just heard a story about a jewish kid getting jumped at my old school. Its messed up.

Black people may be the most negatively stereotyped race , but man, mother fucka's wanna kill y'all , damn. By far the most hated .

Yea I am not saying it is a more prevalent form of discrimination and that antisemitism is worse than racism or sexism, I am just saying it is an issue in my and others views(although according to a lot in this thread it is not a problem).

Historically, Jews got into banking because many European nations did not allow them to enter most trades and professions. Banking was still seen as a bit iffy at that time in most Christian nations (Usury), so many got into that line of work.

So amusingly, the anti-semitic stereotype of the "Jewish Banker" was brought about by anti-semites.

That is pretty messed up if true.

I will say one thing, because I want people who don't know any better to maybe read it.



Antisemitism is not the same as criticizing Israel.



But criticizing Israel can and absolutely has in plenty of cases been the way to channel antisemitic thoughts and feelings.


You know the line "The audience doesn't always know when they're being lied to, but they know when they're being told the truth"?

It's the same thing.

You just feel when there's anti-Semitic feeling underneath something.

Yeah I apologize to everyone who thought that I was saying all criticism of Israel is antisemitic I was saying criticism and focusing on Israel can be antisemitic.

Definitely seeing too much anti-Semetism hidden behind the anti-Zionism card. Some people just are way too obsessed with Israel, when they're the greatest country in the region. Most of these people care greatly about Palestinians, but show little concern for the Kurds. Care greatly about Israel receiving aid and "abusing" it, but little about the aid going to dictators that attack their own people. And criticize Israel when 2 rogue officers use white phosphorous and are punished, but won't condemn the thousands of rocket attacks on Israel, backed by Hamas.

Yeah, this.

What's the point of this thread? Ban-bait, circlejerking? I don't thread-shit often but come on man.

Noone has been banned in this thread or any of my threads to my knowledge. The point of the thread is to discuss antisemitism.

Loads of banned members in this thread.

Was going to a make a conspiracy joke but I value my account!

Noone has been banned for this thread to my knowledge.

What's up with these defend-a-random-group topics? It's like your drawing things from a hat and posting a topic on it.

We've got:

Lookism
Heightism
and now antisemitism

Frankly I'm tired of this crap. Antisemitism is at least a real issue. It's like you a chose it in an attempt to add relevancy to your previous -ism topics.

Coming up next from LostVoyager: Topics on Clownism, Technologism, followed by Racism.

Well all three are real issues in my view (though obviously to varying degrees). Feel free to put me on your ignore list if you do not like me or my threads (well you do not have to worry about threads from me because the admins stripped me of my privilege to create threads).

For anyone wondering why he started this thread it's because he didn't get a joke

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41926263&postcount=112

I guess we can file this under lostvoyagerism

Not really because that post was made after I made this thread.

Also could an admin or moderator please change the topic title to anti-Judaism? Since people are arguing over the etymology of the word?

I removed references to Israel in my original post and apologize for the controversy it has stirred.

 

[strobogo]

Well all three are real issues in my view (though obviously to varying degrees). Feel free to put me on your ignore list if you do not like me or my threads (well you do not have to worry about threads from me because the admins stripped me of my privilege to create threads).

Dude, you've been the victim of Juniorism.

 

[flippymittens]

Dude, you've been the victim of Juniorism.

Ha ha, well this thread is not about me.


May a mod or admin maybe change the title of the thread to anti-Judaism since people are getting offended by my choice to use antisemitism? I removed the Israel reference so that it does not get discussed more.

 

[ReBurn]

So antisemitism is fixed now? Cool! Way to go, LostVoyager!

 

[flippymittens]

So antisemitism is fixed now? Cool! Way to go, LostVoyager!

No... it certainly is not fixed by any means even if we manage to purge antisemitism that is found here antisemitism still occurs. I am just saying to change the thread title to anti-Judaism since the term antisemitism is offensive to some in this thread.

Also I keep saying this thread is not about me because it is not, I just made the thread I have nothing to do with it. We are collectively discussing the issue.

 

[strobogo]

LostVoyager might be the greatest troll of all the times. I can't even tell if he's trolling or deadly serious.

So antisemitism is fixed now? Cool! Way to go, LostVoyager!

His response to that makes me question my own life. Obviously that is a joke, no one could possibly read that as anything else, right?


But then this happens:

No... it certainly is not fixed by any means even if we manage to purge antisemitism that is found here antisemitism still occurs. I am just saying to change the thread title to anti-Judaism since the term antisemitism is offensive to some in this thread.

Now I don't know what to think. My gut tells me that has to be trolling because no one can be that obtuse and dense. But another part of me thinks this person is completely legitimate and really thinks he's on a crusade to bring attention to the various isms that plague the world. And for this, he is a master troll.

 

[flippymittens]

LostVoyager might be the greatest troll of all the times. I can't even tell if he's trolling or deadly serious.




His response to that makes me question my own life. Obviously that is a joke, no one could possibly read that as anything else, right?


But then this happens:




Now I don't know what to think. My gut tells me that has to be trolling because no one can be that obtuse and dense. But another part of me thinks this person is completely legitimate and really thinks he's on a crusade to bring attention to the various isms that plague the world. And for this, he is a master troll.

I am not a "troll". If I was I would post, why did neo-naziGAF revoke my member status ??? (which I am not really saying because I am pretty sure that I got my member status revoked for the teeth thread that I asked to be closed, just giving an example) or something-else ridiculously flamboyant to cause trouble.

If I was a "troll" I am not sure I would be a master since multiple people accused me of being one and I have yet to make people actually mad (most people have just been insulting me).

Furthermore I think the definition of "troll" has become so expanded that anyone who makes unpopular statements threads gets labeled. I might have actually made a topic ranting about this eventually if I was not unmembered.

I did not link this topic to my lookism or heightism topic... I actually think this is the topic I wrote the most for in the original post. I do not consider all the forms of discrimination equal and I did not connect the three topics in anyway. I do not see why my other threads are brought up in here.
But I digress this thread is about discrimination against those who are Jewish not me and the anti-jewish statements and conspiracies that are ongoing in society.

 

[Alucrid]

I am not a "troll". If I was I would post, why did neo-naziGAF revoke my member status ??? (which I am not really saying because I am pretty sure that I got my member status revoked for the teeth thread that I asked to be closed, just giving an example) or something ridiculously flamboyant to cause trouble.

If I was a "troll" I am not sure I would be a master since multiple people accused me of being one and I have yet to make people actually mad (most people have just been insulting me).

Furthermore I think the definition of "troll" has become so expanded that anyone who makes unpopular statements threads gets labeled. I might have actually made a topic ranting about this eventually if I was not unmembered.

I did not link this topic to my lookism or heightism topic... I actually think this is the topic I wrote the most for in the original post. I do not consider all the forms of discrimination equal and I did not connect the three topics in anyway. I do not see why my other threads are brought up in here.
But I digress this thread is about discrimination against those who are Jewish not me and the anti-jewish statements and conspiracies that are ongoing in society.

Troll labeling causing important threads to not be taken seriously.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Troll labeling causing important threads to not be taken seriously.

What's crazy is that I've been looking for the next "ism" thread for a good Pick-Me-Up..oh well =/

 

[Shurs]

 

[dude]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C80Jp6qb8II

As an Israeli, that is the most depressing thing I've seen all week :|

EDIT: Not that you couldn't find these kind of people in Israel, but they would be mostly condemned and the general public would not see it as Patriotism. But then again, I don't know what kind of comedy show this is, for all I know it's the Egyptian Latma (horrible Israeli right wing comedy group.) So maybe the public in Egypt doesn't actually think as shown in this video.

 

[krioto]

Dude, you've been the victim of Juniorism.

Finally

 

[PS3GamerKyle]

Irrational hatred towards the Jews is bad, but there is a "holocaust industry" fueled by these mega pro-Israeli lobbying interests in the United States which perpetuate this idea of anti-semitism by calling any criticism of Israel/support of the Palestinian people as antisemitic. They use the memory of the Holocaust to advance their own goals.

You guys should read Norman Finkelstein. He has authored some extraordinary works which basically flesh out what I posted above.