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[alphaNoid]

Awesome news. I'm headed to a gun show at the end of the month and am looking to get my hands on an RIA.

 

[andycapps]

I stopped looking at 9mm and am now 100% focused on a 1911. I LOVE the price point of the RIA 1911s .. but how is the fit and finish? I look at Kimbers and are they really work 4 times the price?

Don't know a ton about .45's, but my father in law has a .45 Kimber and it is a very nice gun. Only holds 7 rounds, IIRC, but it is a very smooth gun. I wouldn't make it a carry gun, but it's a nice gun to look at and shoot at the range. Super expensive, obviously.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I'm thinking about getting a Springfield M1A.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Probably my next purchase.

 

[Orayn]

So I went trap shooting with some friends over the weekend, bemoaning the obnoxious kick of my old-ass break action 20-gauge and feeling very jealous of my friend's ritzy Benelli Supernova. After I got home, my dad informed me that one of the guns in his closet was a Browning Auto-5, and that I was free to use it the next time I went out shooting. The problem? It hasn't been used in about 20 years and it's in pretty rough shape. Could anyone give/link me a general rundown on how to clean it up?

 

[Lionheart1827]

I'm thinking about getting a Springfield M1A.

Amazing rifle, very expensive, but quality. I own a Loaded M1a in matte black.

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[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Don't know a ton about .45's, but my father in law has a .45 Kimber and it is a very nice gun. Only holds 7 rounds, IIRC, but it is a very smooth gun. I wouldn't make it a carry gun, but it's a nice gun to look at and shoot at the range. Super expensive, obviously.

I dunno. A 1911 was a decent carry gun for the US Armed Forces for a stretch. I'd argue that it's pretty good for a carry need, because truthfully if you hit someone other than in the arm (and even then that's not a guarantee) they are most likely going done for a short period of time...if not far longer.

Awesome news. I'm headed to a gun show at the end of the month and am looking to get my hands on an RIA.

Cool, keep in mind message boards and gunbroker.com are a good way to shop too. I got lucky spotting the deal I did by luck mostly.

So I went trap shooting with some friends over the weekend, bemoaning the obnoxious kick of my old-ass break action 20-gauge and feeling very jealous of my friend's ritzy Benelli Supernova. After I got home, my dad informed me that one of the guns in his closet was a Browning Auto-5, and that I was free to use it the next time I went out shooting. The problem? It hasn't been used in about 20 years and it's in pretty rough shape. Could anyone give/link me a general rundown on how to clean it up?

I know this sounds silly, but Youtube is a godsend for those types of things. I couldn't find anything about cleaning, but here is one on dissembly (and in HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAPY84sR1wY

This is useful for dating the gun
http://www.browning.com/customerservice/dategun/detail.asp?id=13

Here are manuals (current and historic) I would check there.
http://www.browning.com/customerservice/ownersmanuals/index.asp

 

[Orayn]

I know this sounds silly, but Youtube is a godsend for those types of things. I couldn't find anything about cleaning, but here is one on dissembly (and in HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAPY84sR1wY

This is useful for dating the gun
http://www.browning.com/customerservice/dategun/detail.asp?id=13

Here are manuals (current and historic) I would check there.
http://www.browning.com/customerservice/ownersmanuals/index.asp

Thanks! I figured YouTube would probably be the first place to look, but I'll definitely check out those videos and post some pictures when I've got it looking presentable again.

 

[Funky Papa]

Kimbers have a reputation of shoddy workmanship. As in "I had to send it twice to the shop so it could shoot straight". They are compared to Bose, as in pretty and expensive, yet not really that good for the money (and with a surprising number of lemons).

 

[andycapps]

I dunno. A 1911 was a decent carry gun for the US Armed Forces for a stretch. I'd argue that it's pretty good for a carry need, because truthfully if you hit someone other than in the arm (and even then that's not a guarantee) they are most likely going done for a short period of time...if not far longer.

I wasn't really speaking of 1911's in general, but just Kimber's. I don't think they're that reliable. Father in law's gun was misfiring constantly at first and he had to have it fixed at a gunsmith.

 

[alphaNoid]

In GAFs opinion then, what is the best 1911 for say .. < $1200? Wilson Combats and the like are way too expensive.. so I'm thinking something like either a Kimber, a Springfield Armory or maybe Smith and Wesson or a Sig? I know very well there are 300-500$ Rock Islands and Taurus's but I thought they were more bargin 1911s? I know the Rock Island ones are reported to be very good, but perhaps not finished as well as a more pricey 1911.

If I had say $800 to spend, what should I look at? What if I had $1200? Also, I'd prefer buy new. I've done tons of research and I basically came to the conclusion that a Kimber or Springfield was it.. and that I would look at a Rock Island.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I wasn't really speaking of 1911's in general, but just Kimber's. I don't think they're that reliable. Father in law's gun was misfiring constantly at first and he had to have it fixed at a gunsmith.

1911's are finicky guns. Also depends on which Kimber you get. They have some like the TLE series that are pretty solid. But the wall hanger Kimbers I hear are off and on.

DCA on 1911's is harder than any other handgun. Well, any I've had experience with.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

In GAFs opinion then, what is the best 1911 for say .. < $1200? Wilson Combats and the like are way too expensive.. so I'm thinking something like either a Kimber, a Springfield Armory or maybe Smith and Wesson or a Sig? I know very well there are 300-500$ Rock Islands and Taurus's but I thought they were more bargin 1911s? I know the Rock Island ones are reported to be very good, but perhaps not finished as well as a more pricey 1911.

If I had say $800 to spend, what should I look at? What if I had $1200? Also, I'd prefer buy new. I've done tons of research and I basically came to the conclusion that a Kimber or Springfield was it.. and that I would look at a Rock Island.

Springfield. Springfield. Springfield.

 

[Funky Papa]

1911 are not finicky; they are just costly to make. As a result, many manufacturers cut corners even in some "premium" models, while ballooning their prices like motherfuckers because hey, demand is always sky high. It's a sad testament to the state of the 1911 market than even Norinco can make and export better working 1911s than most American manufactureres and for a small fraction of the price (extra shit points if said American manufacturer actually purchases its parts abroad, as many do).

No company unable to build a fucking century old gun deserves my money.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I would like to have sniper rifle one day. Not like an M-106 or anything, but like what hunters use, although I don't want to hunt animals. I would like to shoot for fun at targets that isn't alive.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Springfield. Springfield. Springfield.

We all can't have they extra $200-$300 .

Springfield is very nice though. I had a chance to fire it and I really liked it.

I wasn't really speaking of 1911's in general, but just Kimber's. I don't think they're that reliable. Father in law's gun was misfiring constantly at first and he had to have it fixed at a gunsmith.

Ah cool.

Thanks! I figured YouTube would probably be the first place to look, but I'll definitely check out those videos and post some pictures when I've got it looking presentable again.

Cool. Look forward to seeing them.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I would like to have sniper rifle one day. Not like an M-106 or anything, but like what hunters use, although I don't want to hunt animals. I would like to shoot for fun at targets that isn't alive.

Dude, green safaris! I want to do one of these so bad. Basically, you go to Africa. Get lead out by park wardens and shoot big game with tranquilizer darks from rifles or arrows. At that point vets take care of them or tag them with radio trackers.

And some big international hunting orgnaization counts those as confirmed "kills" and gives you a certificte.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

1911 are not finicky; they are just costly to make. As a result, many manufacturers cut corners even in some "premium" models, while ballooning their prices like motherfuckers because hey, demand is always sky high. It's a sad testament to the state of the 1911 market than even Norinco can make and export better working 1911s than most American manufactureres and for a small fraction of the price (extra shit points if said American manufacturer actually purchases its parts abroad, as many do).

No company unable to build a fucking century old gun deserves my money.

I had to polish feed ramps, throat barrels and tweak extractors to make mine work well. And it was bone stsock US Army issue, circa Korea. (Came in a cardboard box,which was cool) Which might explain why I had to do so much work. I think what kills them are all the variants, different barrel lengths, people who want to build race guns, etc.

Box looked like this, but more beat up and oil stains

 

[Funky Papa]

Eh, that looks like the box of my old Astra (not sure if that's really a compliment, but at least is understandable for a MI).

 

[alphaNoid]

Springfield. Springfield. Springfield.

Nice, I have my eye on a Loaded, duo tone.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Am I weird that I want to buy this for myself for Xmas?

I have no idea what I would need to sneak up on to put a suppressed .22 into.

Actually, thinking about getting an AR suppressor too.

 

[plasmasd]

I've been cleaning up my Pre Mark 1 Ruger. It's an old one from 1950 with a four digit serial and the original red eagle grip. I'd love to have another with an integrated suppressor.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I've been cleaning up my Pre Mark 1 Ruger. It's an old one from 1950 with a four digit serial and the original red eagle grip. I'd love to have another with an integrated suppressor.

.22 pistols are so much fun.

 

[QualityPixel]

I'm thinking about getting a Springfield M1A.

I've shot one, and wow is all I can say. I'll personally consider getting an AR10 before an M1A but that's only because of the price.

Am I weird that I want to buy this for myself for Xmas?

I have no idea what I would need to sneak up on to put a suppressed .22 into.

Actually, thinking about getting an AR suppressor too.

Is that thing actually suppressed? Looks like a bull barrel to me.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Am I weird that I want to buy this for myself for Xmas?

I have no idea what I would need to sneak up on to put a suppressed .22 into.

Actually, thinking about getting an AR suppressor too.

Nah, heck I want to get a Taurus 92 because it was used in a ton of Hong Kong action movies. So your thought isn't odd in the slightest.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Taurus_PT92

 

[RumblingRosco]

Maybe GunGAF can help me here. I'm looking to purchase my first gun for the pure use of going to a range and shooting; I have no interest in using it as home defense, hunting, etc. I'd preferably like a handgun, but that's just out of taste. The only gun I've ever fired before is an M16, so my experience with firing is limited and thus I'm going to consider taking a course at whatever range I go to just to learn what the fuck I'm doing (unless GAF has a better suggestion).

So, anyway, with Black Friday coming up, I'm hoping there may be some decent "introduction" handguns on sale. Can anyone A) suggest me a gun to consider and/or B) suggest a website/source where I can look into these further? Looking to spend no more than $600 on the gun itself as I think that'll get me into an "ok" range for my first gun.

 

[Dead Man]

Maybe GunGAF can help me here. I'm looking to purchase my first gun for the pure use of going to a range and shooting; I have no interest in using it as home defense, hunting, etc. I'd preferably like a handgun, but that's just out of taste. The only gun I've ever fired before is an M16, so my experience with firing is limited and thus I'm going to consider taking a course at whatever range I go to just to learn what the fuck I'm doing (unless GAF has a better suggestion).

So, anyway, with Black Friday coming up, I'm hoping there may be some decent "introduction" handguns on sale. Can anyone A) suggest me a gun to consider and/or B) suggest a website/source where I can look into these further? Looking to spend no more than $600 on the gun itself as I think that'll get me into an "ok" range for my first gun.

.22 Ruger pistol. Good prices, ammo is cheap, good to learn shooting on, and reasobly accurate. They have about 6 billion different models that differ in barel length, finish etc, so have a look and try some out.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

.22 Ruger pistol. Good prices, ammo is cheap, good to learn shooting on, and reasobly accurate. They have about 6 billion different models that differ in barel length, finish etc, so have a look and try some out.

I agree, that or you can easily get a 9mm.

Oh got an offer to trade the M&P wonder gun for an XD 9mm SC bitone. I'm interested, but I'm worried a little about how a SC will be in my hands which are somewhat large. I think I also get some holsters and mags too!

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I've shot one, and wow is all I can say. I'll personally consider getting an AR10 before an M1A but that's only because of the price.



Is that thing actually suppressed? Looks like a bull barrel to me.

Yep/ It's modified by Gem-Tech. Makers of some of the finest suppressors in on the market.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Well it's pretty much a done deal, I should be trading the wonder gun for an XD 9mm compact tomorrow. I need to get one of those grip extensions. A part of me is annoyed I'm not going to try and get a full size, but having a ready to go conceal weapon is a pretty good deal and is a nice variance to the 1911. I even get two holsters, two regular mags and a Fuck NY/NJ 16 rd extended mag,of course being a lefty, the holsters are more useful now for easy range transport. I'm happy I'm getting a dedicated 9mm as the wonder gun is fine for target shooting, not so much for accurate fire.

I'll post some pics later.

 

[jchap]

Was gifted a Henry 44 magnum lever action riffle recently. Great fun to shoot, although the ammunition is expensive.

 

[Zyzyxxz]

Dude, green safaris! I want to do one of these so bad. Basically, you go to Africa. Get lead out by park wardens and shoot big game with tranquilizer darks from rifles or arrows. At that point vets take care of them or tag them with radio trackers.

And some big international hunting orgnaization counts those as confirmed "kills" and gives you a certificte.

Holy shit that is fucking badass! I can shoot things without killing them and helping science?!

Was gifted a Henry 44 magnum lever action riffle recently. Great fun to
shoot, although the ammunition is expensive.

Gun porn pics plz?

 

[QualityPixel]

Yep/ It's modified by Gem-Tech. Makers of some of the finest suppressors in on the market.

Nifty, looked like a stock bull barrel. That's a high quality job.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Trade the wonder gun for the XD9sub compact. It's an interesting feel, it's kind of weird though, it feels like so much of the gun is missing. Besides the grip safety feeling odd, but I just started using it too, it seems like a really nice gun.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Saw this on Reddits Gun page. Now that's a hell of a revolver

This was also funny about trolling 1911 and Glock fans at the same time.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

 

[BattleMonkey]

So probably going to check out local shop about what 1911's they got. They have the AMC Commander 1911 on sale, but I'm not sure on it's quality. Few reviews for it seem kinda flakey, mostly feed issues.

Can't find any 941's locally sadly

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

If I had stupid money...

I would have this made in real life.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

I love that one.

So probably going to check out local shop about what 1911's they got. They have the AMC Commander 1911 on sale, but I'm not sure on it's quality. Few reviews for it seem kinda flakey, mostly feed issues.

Can't find any 941's locally sadly

I'd highly recommend the Rock Island Armony GI Spec that I picked up recently. Gun shoots great, I only wonder how easy it is to mod.

 

[Hari Seldon]

As soon as I can find one under $1400 I'm going to pull the trigger.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

If I had stupid money...

I would have this made in real life.

I doubt you're alone on that.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Springfield Milspec 1911 for $595 new. Pretty good deal? It's a black friday week sale going on at local shop and it's sexy black grip model.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0029LV4LM/?tag=neogaf0e-20

With prime
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005IHTBKA/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It's funny you can get hi cap mags off Amazon, you'd think sellers wouldn't do that since nothing prevents a mag being order to go to NY (since if its Prime it's already in the wharehouse).

Springfield Milspec 1911 for $595 new. Pretty good deal? It's a black friday week sale going on at local shop and it's sexy black grip model.

Fuck yes, unless the other prices I'm finding for it are out of date. I know the Remington one was floating around for that price.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Fuck yes, unless the other prices I'm finding for it are out of date. I know the Remington one was floating around for that price.

Yea I'm running over there after work to probably pick it up. Will still check out the other 1911's in stock though. Was wanting something a bit more tactical looking that I could put a light on, but this seems like a great deal.

 

[stldave2]

Shot one of these this weekend (Wilson Tactical Supergrade Pro)

I'm thinking about selling my Kimber Pro CDPII... I want the Wilson BADDDDD.

 

[Lionheart1827]

If I had stupid money...

I would have this made in real life.

I bet you can just get a Beretta 92 and find custom STARS grips somewhere for it.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I bet you can just get a Beretta 92 and find custom STARS grips somewhere for it.

The slide would be expensive as hell.

 

[Lionheart1827]

The slide would be expensive as hell.

Ah yes, I didn't notice the special engraving and stuff.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

The slide would be expensive as hell.

Not to mention the licensing issues potentially. It's why people who make (and yes they do) expensive Pro Wrestling title belts have to charge extra if someone wants a WWF (some allowed) or WWE logo on them. Considering Capcom actually licensed an airsoft version, I'd hate to be a gunsmith who started doing that if Capcom found out!

People may be thinking I'm kidding, but people can and do get sued for infringing moon bounce castles (using Disney, Nick, et al characters). Heck, their is a reason some Airsoft guns the dealers have to burn the logo off before shipping or offer it with no refund if it gets caught with the unburned logo. So places even offer to not do an orange cap....which is a HORRIBLE idea and its even openly advertised.

I love being an IP Law dork sorry for the tangent there.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Not to mention the licensing issues potentially. It's why people who make (and yes they do) expensive Pro Wrestling title belts have to charge extra if someone wants a WWF (some allowed) or WWE logo on them. Considering Capcom actually licensed an airsoft version, I'd hate to be a gunsmith who started doing that if Capcom found out!

People may be thinking I'm kidding, but people can and do get sued for infringing moon bounce castles (using Disney, Nick, et al characters). Heck, their is a reason some Airsoft guns the dealers have to burn the logo off before shipping or offer it with no refund if it gets caught with the unburned logo. So places even offer to not do an orange cap....which is a HORRIBLE idea and its even openly advertised.

I love being an IP Law dork sorry for the tangent there.

Asian Airsoft exported with putty over the trades, which one can pull off later. As for orange tips, nothing enamel remover can't fix.

But I always amke sure my airsoft guns have blaze orange everything and I've never used them to shoot drunk bros.