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[Neuromancer]

I have to say holding them, I really did like how light the Glock was, it was weird in a way. My wife (yes I got her to go along!) liked the Glock more ("still don't want a gun in house" blah blah, she's coming along though ) and figures sine the ammo's cheaper, I'm more familiar with 9mm and it's really easy (though the guy at the store had trouble) to disassemble and clean with few parts. It seems like a good learning handgun. I have to get over the look of it, but aesthetic issues can only go so far I guess.

Now my question is which Glock to get, there are a ton of types with different revisions. It's like Apple products. lol

http://www.glock.com/downloads/GLOCK_en.pdf

Can't go wrong with the 19, but if you want something real compact (and your wife might appreciate the smaller size) the 26 is really nice too.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Congrats Manos, it's a good feeling to have that. I had a CCL before I went to be a LEO and it didn't take that long back then neither iirc.

Yeah, it was just so easy to deal with. Barely any effort and now a ton of extra rights.

And yes, PA does take care of gun owners really well. The thing you have to watch when traveling over state lines that "can" jam you up is in specific the ammunition you have loaded in there. Many places don't like that in PA you can use hollow points.

Yeah, I've made sure I never leave ammo in my trunk since I commute from PA to NY, but I use NJT. Luckily I don't think I'd have any issue with the current ammo I have. I've only gotten range ammo vs PD ammo.

That said with the clip I might get that could be a problem. Is NJ one of those no mag bigger than 10 (or is it 15)? I know Cal is 10...even for things like an AK-47.

And, of course, you have to steer clear of government buildings and know of "city first-class" type stuff where you're traveling as well.

Yep, that's why I got it to an extent, in case I wanted to go to a range in Philadelphia. I also have to keep aware schools (which include everything from nursery and up. That could be as simple as using an empty parking lot to make a call.

That said I can't say I plan on carrying (at least at the moment and not till I'm far far more trained in weapon handling). I just figure it's more effort not to get one than to get one. Bucks County was really cool letting me use another county's (name of county was also blank) form posted online and just fill that out. Staff was really nice too. Funny thing was it was also where the bench warrants where done, so I thought two of the three people were there for a licence, but they were actually there for warrants, one guy was really happy he wouldn't get taken into custody before the appearance later in the day!

Also Bucks County Sheriff is Edward "Duke" Donnely. The Duke in quotations appears on all the official things and on the back of my license. Oh man you know you're going to be fine with a name like that handling the licence!

Can't go wrong with the 19, but if you want something real compact (and your wife might appreciate the smaller size) the 26 is really nice too.

Well my wife is pregnant so she won't be firing a weapon until at least some time next spring, and that's not including the psychological aspect of not wanting to. I wouldn't even bring her to a range (not that she'd go anyway lol) due to the noises. So I think I'd go for the 17 or 19, since by then I could have a new one who sell this one. Regarding size there is just something about a small gun that I don't feel as safe around. I know a guy who keeps a mini derringer in his pocket for CCW. I joke that if you might go for a smart phone and shoot yourself. lol Granted the 26 isn't that small, I just like the feel of a "full" gun vs a "compact" if you will. I have pretty large hands and I like it when the weapon fills them out, if that makes any sense. lol

Can anyone give me some ideas on what good new and used prices are for various Glocks? I'd like to get used if it's still got all the original material and in near new quality, but otherwise I'd prefer new.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Oh man am I happy I no longer live in New York and New Jersey.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0217.htm

State

Magazine Round Restriction

Statutory Reference

California*

No more than 10

Cal. Penal Code § 12020(a)(2),(b)(c)25

Hawaii

(applies to handguns only)

No more than 10

Hawaii Rev. Stat. § 134-8(c)

Maryland*

No more than 20

Md. Code Ann. Crim. Law § 4-305

Massachusetts*

No more than 10

Mass. Gen. Laws ch. 140 §§ 121, 131M

New Jersey*

No more than 15

N. J. Stat. Ann. §§ 2C: 39-9(h), 2C: 39-1, 2C: 39-3(j)

New York*

No more than 10

N. Y. Penal Law §§ 265. 00 (23), 265. 02(8)

State

Nature of Prohibition

Statutory Reference

Alabama

Illegal to sell or possess (class C felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison, $ 15,000, or both. Enhanced penalties for use of armor-piercing ammunition in commission of another felony. )

Ala. Code 13A-11-60

California

An enhanced penalty of up to 10 years for possession of armor-piercing ammunition during the commission of a felony and while armed with a firearm.

Cal. Penal Code § 12022. 2

Connecticut

Illegal to distribute, transport or sell first time offense is a class A misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in prison and $ 2,000 fine (repeat offense is a class D felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a $ 5,000 fine).

CGS § 53a-202l

Indiana

Illegal to manufacturer, sell, transfer, or possess (class C felony maximum prison term of eight years, fine of $ 10,000, or both)

Indiana Code § 35-47-5-11

New Hampshire

Class B felony if used in commission of a misdemeanor or felony (punishable by up to seven years in prison).

N. H. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 159: 18

New Jersey

Possession is a fourth-degree crime punishable by up to six months in prison.

N. J. Stat. Ann. § 2C: 39-3(f)

New York

Possession with intent to use is a class A misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in prison.

N. Y. Penal Law § 265. 01(8)

Michigan

Manufacture, sale, distribution and use are prohibited felonies punishable by up to four years in prison and a fine of up to $ 2,000.

Mich. Comp. Laws § 750. 224c

Mississippi

Manufacture, sale and possession are prohibited misdemeanors punishable by up to 30 days in prison and a fine up to $ 500.

Miss. Code Ann. § 97-37-31

Oklahoma

Illegal to manufacture, sell, import, or advertise for sale (violations are felonies punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $ 10,000, or both).

Okla. Stat. tit. 21, § 1289. 19

Tennessee

Illegal to manufacture, possess or sell (class E felony punishable by two years in prison; use in commission of another crime qualifies as class D felony punishable by up to four years in prison).

Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-17-1304

Texas

Illegal to manufacture, possess, or sell (class A misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in prison and a $ 4,000 fine).

Texas Penal Code Ann. § 46. 05

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

PA Owners Wisconsin will now honor you Carry License as of November 1st

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp

Out-of-state Licenses Recognized in Wisconsin
Licensees from any of the listed states will be recognized in Wisconsin as an out-of-state licensee per Sec. 175.60 (1)(g) Wis. Stats. This was determined based on the statutory requirement in s. 165.25 (12) that the listed state requires, or designates that the holder chose to submit, to a background search that is comparable to Wisconsin’s background check in s. 175.60 (1)(ac). Wisconsin’s background check includes only two components (1) A criminal history record search; (2) A search of the national instant criminal background check system (NICS). If another states background check meets the same requirements a Wisconsin resident must meet, the DOJ has recognized that state. The DOJ has tried to be as inclusive as possible and will periodically check and update the list if other states can be added. This list is current as of 10/18/11:

Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wyoming, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands

 

[Luixfern]

PA Owners Wisconsin will now honor you Carry License as of November 1st

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp

Come on Illinois... you can do it... :-( who am I kidding, not as long as Quinn is in office.

 

[Davidion]

60% more recoil on the .50AE than the .44 is the number i have heard...what exactly that means, I have no idea. I have only the .50AE.

Damn, that's a lot of recoil.

It looks like what few ranges in and immediately around NYC only have small caliber pistols and rifles. The search continues...

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

Can anyone give me some ideas on what good new and used prices are for various Glocks? I'd like to get used if it's still got all the original material and in near new quality, but otherwise I'd prefer new.

I would say no more than $450-500 for a new Glock, less than $400 on a used depending on how many rounds it has through it and what it comes with (mags!). For reference, I paid $499 for my XD9mm subcompact and $599 for my XD45 Tactical, both new. Those are also California prices, which have a bit more of a premium on in than say PA. Each came with two mags and Springfield Armory had a promotion going where if you bought new you would get two more mags.

Buying a used weapon isn't that bad as say buying a used car. Glock's in particular are built to last and fire thousands upon thousands of rounds. If you are going to get a used one, give it a nice once over and maybe even give it a quick field strip to give a look over of the insides. Should be good to go though. Out of my 4 firearms, I bought my pistols and my Mossberg 500 shotgun new and my mini-14 used. The mini-14 is also a workhorse though and looks great other than all the krylon the previous owner sprayed over it. But hey, it got me a lower price which is what I was looking for, more money for mags!

Whatever you get, make sure to get some nice cheap practice ammo, Walmart usually has the cheapest prices on that. Some self-defense rounds are also a must, hollow points, I prefer Speer Gold Dots. And mags, can never have enough magazines.

 

[Lionheart1827]

Oh man am I happy I no longer live in New York and New Jersey.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0217.htm

Yeah I live on Long Island. At first I was kind of pissed that I couldn't have anything higher than 10 unless it was a preban, but I got over it when I realized its not really necessary when just about every range on LI is shooting at paper. I have three 20 round preban mags for my springfield M1a and I never use them because I feel like I blow 20 dollars worth of ammo every time I empty one. :lol

The pistol license process is what REALLY sucks ass.(100 dollars total, 3 notarized references with application, birth certificate, proof of address, interview with licensing officer, then 6 months of waiting).

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

After the Childbirth class my wife and are attending we're going today we're going here for awhile. Not planning on getting anything most likely.

http://tannerssportcenter.com/

The gun safe arrives today. Its a Gunvault Multi Deluxe, its pistols only though. I have to say after holding one last night I wish I had something to hold a home defense shotgun.

 

[jchap]

While not a gun, I just got a new Parker Wildfire XP compound bow. The thing is so much faster than my old bow. 70 lb, 30" draw. Got it sighted in and was getting a 1.5" grouping at 50 yards.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

While not a gun, I just got a new Parker Wildfire XP compound bow. The thing is so much faster than my old bow. 70 lb, 30" draw. Got it sighted in and was getting a 1.5" grouping at 50 yards.

Sweet, archery is always a fun activity. The place in the link above has an indoor archery range. Love to try it out again. I haven't done it since summer camp as a kid.

 

[Funky Papa]

Dear Gun-GAF,

Which is the best place to purchase new optics? I'm thinking about getting a spotting scope for target practice and maybe a reflex/holographic sight for IPSC (I'm not decided yet) whenever I have another trip to the States. B&H has some good prices, but I'd like to check other shops.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

My Gunbrokers.com gun should be here on Monday.

Full commentary on the buying experience after I receive and inspect the firearm, as well as a review of the weapon generally.

 

[GotEmRunnin]

I got a CZ100 .9mm luger from my old man as a house warming gift when I moved out back in 1999. He's a retired cop.

Also have .8 gauge shotty handed down from my grandfather. I leave that at my grandmothers house with the rest of our families collectibles. Not sure what manufacturer made it and after my Grandfather passed I never bothered to ask.

 

[fastford58]

Got out yesterday and put 180 rounds of 7.62x39 through my 1956 NOS Norinco SKS. It is one of the ones that were manufactured under supervision of the Russian Manufacturers.

Out of the box with no sight adjustment and the thing is pretty awesome. I was getting 3" five round groups with the irons at 100yds. Considering I haven't shot rifle in years, I was pretty impressed.

And I got the rifle for $75 lol.

 

[eznark]

30-.06 worked great!

I got a little guy but when I get pictures of the monsters the guys I was with got I will add them. My father in law also decided to kill a bear.

 

[Funky Papa]

30-.06 worked great!

This isn't creepy.

 

[Lionheart1827]

Dear Gun-GAF,

Which is the best place to purchase new optics? I'm thinking about getting a spotting scope for target practice and maybe a reflex/holographic sight for IPSC (I'm not decided yet) whenever I have another trip to the States. B&H has some good prices, but I'd like to check other shops.

Midway USA has a good selection online. There are a few other sites that I'm trying to remember, but that one always immediately comes to mind.

 

[Funky Papa]

Oh, fuck me sideways. As a foreign national I need an authorization of the Department of State in order to purchase a reflex/holographic sight.

What the fuck. It's a goddamned sight! I could purchase one anywhere else on eBay!

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

30-.06 worked great!

http://i.imgur.com/HcD4X.jpg[IMG]

I got a little guy but when I get pictures of the monsters the guys I was with got I will add them. My father in law also decided to kill a bear.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1dxPZ.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

You probably thought these animals were alive. They're not. They're dead.

 

[bishoptl]

30-.06 worked great!

Nice work. Also this pic will come in handy for the NFL thread.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

My Gunbrokers.com gun should be here on Monday.

Full commentary on the buying experience after I receive and inspect the firearm, as well as a review of the weapon generally.

Awesome, can't wait to read how it went.

Well got the safe in today, descent size, but I have to get some batteries to test it out fully.

You know after all the semi-automatic talk, I think I might wind up getting a revolver, they're dirt cheap (250 and under) good to learn on, safer (in a sense, I know you still don't break any of the rules with it), and it still works for home defense and carry. In a perfect world I'm getting a revolver and 9mm, but I'll be content with just one.

 

[Robobandit]

Damn, that's a lot of recoil.

It looks like what few ranges in and immediately around NYC only have small caliber pistols and rifles. The search continues...

The nice part about the Mark XIX Desert Eagle is that you can change calibers by changing the barrel, magazine and the bolt..

My .44 magnum DE (brushed chrome) can become a .50 AE with the right barrel and magazine.

In a few months I may pick up the .50 AE barrel for fun.. but .44 is a perfect caliber for this gun.. still get a big boom, huge muzzle flash, but manageable recoil (kicks about the same as my co-workers Para 1911 .45) and cheaper ammo (75 cents a round vs $2.00 a round for .50 AE)

The .50 AE is the movie poster gun.. but the .44 is certainly no slouch and is a joy to shoot. That's why I don't shoot it more often than I do.. it's too easy to blow through lots of expensive ammo..

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

With any luck I should have a lnib Taurus 85 Ultralite .38 special that can also handle +P.

Best part is (crossing my fingers) I'll be able to use Amazon credit and maybe gamestop credit to offset costs and to only pay $125!

 

[fastford58]

The nice part about the Mark XIX Desert Eagle is that you can change calibers by changing the barrel, magazine and the bolt..

My .44 magnum DE (brushed chrome) can become a .50 AE with the right barrel and magazine.

In a few months I may pick up the .50 AE barrel for fun.. but .44 is a perfect caliber for this gun.. still get a big boom, huge muzzle flash, but manageable recoil (kicks about the same as my co-workers Para 1911 .45) and cheaper ammo (75 cents a round vs $2.00 a round for .50 AE)

The .50 AE is the movie poster gun.. but the .44 is certainly no slouch and is a joy to shoot. That's why I don't shoot it more often than I do.. it's too easy to blow through lots of expensive ammo..

Certainly. It does kick, but no where near the SW500. Push-pull combat grip, lean into it a bit and don't limp wrist it.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Certainly. It does kick, but no where near the SW500. Push-pull combat grip, lean into it a bit and don't limp wrist it.

How much do you think a grip change can generally expect to modify kickback? I've always wondered if there's a general rule or principle to it

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Bah got beaten on the gun. Oh well back to the drawing board.

 

[MetalAlien]

That was beating on my window last night. you weren't holding it either. It seemed upset. It was on about something. Something about the contract has been sealed.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

I'm actually happy that the revolver deal didn't go through. I've decided that I'm getting the Smith and Wesson Sigma SW9VE 9mm. The price is pretty much exactly what I wanted and it seems to be a nice Glock clone (which is why Glock originally sued them when it first came out lol). I figure it will be a good gun to train on. That is unless anyone has some horror stories or comments on it. I figure that while it might not be as great a Glock, it still is S&W, so its not like I'm buying from some no-name company.

With any luck I should have it in by Saturday.

 

[Loxley]

30-.06 worked great!

Wiscosnin.

/brofist.

 

[Robobandit]

Certainly. It does kick, but no where near the SW500. Push-pull combat grip, lean into it a bit and don't limp wrist it.

Recoil isn't really the concern..

For the DE, the 4.4lb unloaded weight of the gun and the gas operation take most of the "bite" out of the recoil.

With proper grip and technique, it's an easy shooter.

The main reason I didn't go with a .50 AE was the price of the ammo.

I've got 2 boxes of 20 .50 AE rounds that I bought for $35 each back in 2002 .. and they have only appreciated in value lol

I worked for a sporting goods store.. and I was dead set on buying a DE ever since I saw the movie "Snatch".. in reality I didn't make enough money to do it.. I was financially able just this last year.. and made the purchase.. felt good to check that one off the list. Everyone has a good time with it at the range.. she's very picky about the ammo, though. only Fiocchi and magtech shoot reliably.

I really need to get into reloading..

As for the grip question -

Grip can make a big difference in how much recoil affects your sight picture and improper grip (especially with powerful handguns) can lead to malfunctioning or injury.

Generally speaking the higher the grip you can get on the gun the more control you'll have over the recoil. You can redirect the energy of the gun's recoil into your shoulder with a proper stance and grip. Prevents the muzzle from rising as much and lets you get back on target faster, too. That's just my experience.

 

[Dead Man]

I'm actually happy that the revolver deal didn't go through. I've decided that I'm getting the Smith and Wesson Sigma SW9VE 9mm. The price is pretty much exactly what I wanted and it seems to be a nice Glock clone (which is why Glock originally sued them when it first came out lol). I figure it will be a good gun to train on. That is unless anyone has some horror stories or comments on it. I figure that while it might not be as great a Glock, it still is S&W, so its not like I'm buying from some no-name company.

With any luck I should have it in by Saturday.

I have never used a Sigma, but they did have a pretty rubbish reputation for a long time. Hope it's a good weapon for you.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

I have never used a Sigma, but they did have a pretty rubbish reputation for a long time. Hope it's a good weapon for you.

Yeah, I was attracted to the price and while cheap it currently isnt viewed as super low quality. Well depending on how much money I get from little trade in deal on GAF I might be able to doa far nicer upgrade. Not HK, but far more mid/upper range like Berreta. Though a guy on one board is selling an HK USP foe ~500.

 

[Funky Papa]

Hint: America's contenders in the "plastic fantastic" segment tend to be on the rubbish side unless imported/rebranded from European companies, like Springfield does with the XD (Croatia's HS2000).

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Hint: America's contenders in the "plastic fantastic" segment tend to be on the rubbish side unless imported/rebranded from European companies, like Springfield does with the XD (Croatia's HS2000).

Personally I'd prefer steel/metal vs a polymer gun anyway. XD is pretty nice and it's the first 9 I shot.

 

[Zyzyxxz]

The nice part about the Mark XIX Desert Eagle is that you can change calibers by changing the barrel, magazine and the bolt..

My .44 magnum DE (brushed chrome) can become a .50 AE with the right barrel and magazine.

In a few months I may pick up the .50 AE barrel for fun.. but .44 is a perfect caliber for this gun.. still get a big boom, huge muzzle flash, but manageable recoil (kicks about the same as my co-workers Para 1911 .45) and cheaper ammo (75 cents a round vs $2.00 a round for .50 AE)

The .50 AE is the movie poster gun.. but the .44 is certainly no slouch and is a joy to shoot. That's why I don't shoot it more often than I do.. it's too easy to blow through lots of expensive ammo..

damn $2.00 a bullet is crazy, fastest way to blow through a $20 bill other than a stripper.

Don't you also have to register yourself as a buyer for the ammo too?

 

[ChocolatePuddin]

Awesome, can't wait to read how it went.

Well got the safe in today, descent size, but I have to get some batteries to test it out fully.

You know after all the semi-automatic talk, I think I might wind up getting a revolver, they're dirt cheap (250 and under) good to learn on, safer (in a sense, I know you still don't break any of the rules with it), and it still works for home defense and carry. In a perfect world I'm getting a revolver and 9mm, but I'll be content with just one.

Just curious did you go for the generation 4 glock or generation 3?

 

[Dead Man]

Yeah, I was attracted to the price and while cheap it currently isnt viewed as super low quality. Well depending on how much money I get from little trade in deal on GAF I might be able to doa far nicer upgrade. Not HK, but far more mid/upper range like Berreta. Though a guy on one board is selling an HK USP foe ~500.

Be interested to see what you think of it after dropping some rounds through it.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Be interested to see what you think of it after dropping some rounds through it.

Just curious did you go for the generation 4 glock or generation 3?

Actually. I didn't I wound up with a good deal for this. I'll have it on Friday or Saturday. Best part is I got the price down to $350 by using Amazon Credit! It's also a local transfer (only $25 bucks too)

Gently used M&P 357SIG Round count 400 - 600

Includes excellent condition .40 S&W barrel.

Magazine safety, no thumb safety, no internal frame lock.

Stippled Grip, with factory palm inserts, one stippled insert.

Flawless function, solid condition.

Three (15) round magazines.

Actual Pics

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Newest member of my family on the far right. Ordered from Gunbrokers.com after reading about the service here on GAF. It was like an eBay experience in every way, except with more security steps along the way. I got the XD-40 Subcompact for approximately 45% less than what I would have bought it for retail here in Florida. 45% less! Gun arrived quickly and in perfect condition. Just need to oil it up a little then put some rounds through it, but all appears to be well. Will be using Gunbroker.com for most future purchases. How can I not?

Cheers.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Newest member of my family on the far right. Ordered from Gunbrokers.com after reading about the service here on GAF. It was like an eBay experience in every way, except with more security steps along the way. I got the XD-40 Subcompact for approximately 45% less than what I would have bought it for retail here in Florida. 45% less! Gun arrived quickly and in perfect condition. Just need to oil it up a little then put some rounds through it, but all appears to be well. Will be using Gunbroker.com for most future purchases. How can I not?

Cheers.

Nice! I'm happy to hear gunbrokers worked out so well! The XD looks really nice too. Even though I'm getting the M&P locally, I'm going to try out getting ammo and accessories from sellers on the site. It's good to know it's pretty much just eBay...but with lots of guns!

 

[Neuromancer]

Shot my new (to me) Glock 26 at the range last week. My god I love this gun. Can't wait for the paperwork to go through so I can start carrying it full time.

 

[andycapps]

So how are you guys ordering guns online? I didn't think you could do that? I was going to give some tips to Manos but it looks like he found what he was looking for. Sigs are good guns, recommend it a lot more over a Beretta. Personally would have probably gone with a Glock but a Sig is super nice too.

 

[Funky Papa]

Spoiler

After I qualify as a Tier 2 shooter and get rid of my TS22

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

So how are you guys ordering guns online? I didn't think you could do that? I was going to give some tips to Manos but it looks like he found what he was looking for. Sigs are good guns, recommend it a lot more over a Beretta. Personally would have probably gone with a Glock but a Sig is super nice too.

You can EASILY order a gun online. The general rule is it has to go to an FFL dealer (who in PA will run the PICS and NICS check). There are tons of online gun dealers. Buds Discount Guns (which featured in hilariously to something I posted yesterday) is a well known example) and Gunbrokers are just a few examples of the top of my head.

That said in-state in PA for long guns (between residents) you can just drop it off with no dealer needed (though to protect yourself you should do certain things to ensure they're not a prohibited person). That said, in PA just stick it in the mail and it can be dropped off like it was a video game trade!

PA is a boss when it comes to gun laws.

Ironically my magazine I get by default is a crime to posses in New York and CA.

One thing that is nice about S&W is they have a lifetime guarantee, and reading it online, it's for as long as one owns the gun, not as long as the original purchaser owns the gun.

 

[Robobandit]

damn $2.00 a bullet is crazy, fastest way to blow through a $20 bill other than a stripper.

Don't you also have to register yourself as a buyer for the ammo too?

Not in Florida.. I just have to be 18 to buy the ammo.. (not a problem, seeing as I'm 30)..

I don't have to register my guns either, outside of just filling out the paperwork for the FDLE background check prior to purchase. The dealer I buy from has the serial # recorded, but I don't have to go through a registration process myself.

I also get to use magazines that would be illegal in other states... FL has pretty relaxed laws with regard to firearms.. a little too lax, imo..

I would be in favor of making it more difficult to get a concealed weapons permit.. personally.. and I have one.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Not in Florida.. I just have to be 18 to buy the ammo.. (not a problem, seeing as I'm 30)..

I don't have to register my guns either, outside of just filling out the paperwork for the FDLE background check prior to purchase. The dealer I buy from has the serial # recorded, but I don't have to go through a registration process myself.

I also get to use magazines that would be illegal in other states... FL has pretty relaxed laws with regard to firearms..

PA is like that too, it's hilarious being right next to NJ and NY and also MD. It's like PA is just straight trolling people in neighboring states!

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Nice! I'm happy to hear gunbrokers worked out so well! The XD looks really nice too. Even though I'm getting the M&P locally, I'm going to try out getting ammo and accessories from sellers on the site. It's good to know it's pretty much just eBay...but with lots of guns!

Cheers man. It was a good experience overall and I'm very happy with the quality. As with eBay, the same concepts apply (buying from people with good rep, knowing how much you want to pay, pay via PayPal etc.). I'm well pleased. I finally have a sub-compact semi-auto. I've been planning to get one for some time but finally got around to it thanks to this thread. The XD Compact is small...but this is so much better for concealed carry.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Cheers man. It was a good experience overall and I'm very happy with the quality. As with eBay, the same concepts apply (buying from people with good rep, knowing how much you want to pay, pay via PayPal etc.). I'm well pleased. I finally have a sub-compact semi-auto. I've been planning to get one for some time but finally got around to it thanks to this thread. The XD Compact is small...but this is so much better for concealed carry.

That awesome. It's kind of funny you were able to use PayPal though. Most of those guys hate Paypal, claiming they're Anti-Gun and if they catch wind the account was used for that purpose they'll freeze the account and keep the money. That's why you usually don't see it as an option. Now if you're just one person selling it one gun here and there, I could see it still being used, that said it's still pretty uncommon. Cool that you were able to though.

By chucking in my Kindle Wifi 3rd gen (which I don't use anymore) I was able to move the transfer date up to today!

This is going to be one very long day! lol

 

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That awesome. It's kind of funny you were able to use PayPal though. Most of those guys hate Paypal, claiming they're Anti-Gun and if they catch wind the account was used for that purpose they'll freeze the account and keep the money. That's why you usually don't see it as an option. Now if you're just one person selling it one gun here and there, I could see it still being used, that said it's still pretty uncommon. Cool that you were able to though.

By chucking in my Kindle Wifi 3rd gen (which I don't use anymore) I was able to move the transfer date up to today!

This is going to be one very long day! lol

Are you going to be firing .357 SIG or .40 through that M&P? I haven't looked into it, but as long as you have the conversion barrel and the right mags, there shouldn't be any feeding issues. It would be cheaper for you to shoot the .40 compared to the .357SIG. .357sig is a pretty smokin round though from the ballistics I have looked at, certainly nothing to sneeze at. Must give us a full range report once it is yours!

And dreams, that xd40 sub is a good looking piece. I have had my xd9 sub for about a year now and love that little guy. Shoots great and is small. Certainly not the smallest, but just perfect size for when I want to CC. I almost thought about getting an OD green sub, to match my xd45, but I didn't want to wait for the order and pay a few bucks more for a different color.