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Anyone have/had a pet rat?

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demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
A friend talked me into getting a pet, originally a hamster, but the more I thought about it the more interested I"ve become in getting a rat. I know they have a nasty rep, but they're much more intelligent and fun and social than any other 'rodent pet', from what I know.

Anyway, anyone have experience with pet rats? How difficult are they to take care of in general? How long can they be left alone, like if I went on a trip?
Also, I've read that they're better off and become more tame/social if they're with another rat instead of alone. Any truth to that?
 

way more

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I once had one. It was a great pet but it died within a year of cancer. You need to find a large hamster wheel, thats all the advice I can give.
 

yoshifumi

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my friend in grade school had a pet rat that developed a huuuuuge tumor on its stomach after he had it for awhile, so we called it fatsack from that day forward.

anyways, i think rats are cool pets, and they're pretty intelligent and trainable to a certain extent.
 
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Don't do it. Rats STINK.

Seriously you have to clean that shit religiously. get slack for a little while and they really stink. really really stink.

Still at least if you get sick of it you can just throw it away.
 

thefit

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High maintanance pet cuz like anything you have to constanly clean their cage and even then they stink up the place. I had 3 mice they wheren't blind but they where really fucking hungry cuz I never fed them so they killed and ate the weakest among them the other too I let loose in the house to breed among the comon mice...on second thought get 3 rats that should be fun.
 
My friend bought two rats last week. He left them in a large cardboard box with food and water in his car overnight. Needless to say, the rats escaped, and now he has rats in his car. They went behind his glove box, and he can't get them out. They chewed up a bit of the leather interior too.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
So what's a good non-smelly alternative to rats? I want something that's at least a little fun and kind of a social animal, not something that's gonna want to bite my fucking finger every time I try to pick it up.
 

Trakball

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guinea pig? hamster?

be careful though, my ex-girlfriend had a hamster and that fucker ate like half the remote control. nothing like having the TV stuck on the "Oh!" channel all day (and thank god for Roseanne reruns)
 

Firest0rm

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I have a friend that breeds rats for his pet snakes. He freezes the rats once they have grown fully :S. He sells his snakes and makes around 500 a month if I recall correctly. Pretty good money off a hobby. He also sells some lizards.
 

way more

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My rat never had a stench about him, just keep the damn cage clean. You should try getting ahedgehog, they seem pretty cute. Or one of those flying rodents creatures.
 

Azala

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I had one as a child. They make interesting pets. They are not very difficult to take care of, and you can leave them for a while if they are not the type to gorge on food. I don't know about the social aspect. We had two rats and they got along fine, and eventually the big one (Onyx) got out of his cage and escaped. For the next few years I would see him living down at our creek with a wild rat, raising a family. He'd still eat from my hand and had gotten HUGE. The other rat died shortly after Onyx's jail break, but I don't think the two were related.
 

fennec fox

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DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
My sister had two pet rats for a time, much to my mother's dismay. I never really noticed any adverse odors in the house when she had them home, and I suppose there must not have been any otherwise my mother would have probably bitched about it to high hell.
 

Kola

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I had mine for about 2 years, died on cancer, like all rats eventually will. Quite intelligent little beast. I'd say my rat (I called him Adonis because he was so ugly...) was smarter than the cat I had at the same time.
 

human5892

Queen of Denmark
I love my pet rat. I don't understand people complaining about rets being smelly animals -- I clean Link's cage about once every five days or so (which is pretty infrequent IMO), and it only starts to smell a bit around the fifth day -- and even then, it's not that bad unless you go right up to the cage and sniff hard.

Some things you should know about them:

- They are very social creatures, so if possible, get more than one. If you absolutely can only get one (maybe due to small cage space or something like that), make sure you interact with it as much as possible -- at least a half hour a day.

- Their cages should be placed in a moderate-to-high traffic area, as they enjoy watching people go about their daily activities.

- If you handle them enough, they'll become quite tame and will enjoy riding around on your shoulder while you do whatever you'd normally do.

- Tumors: the rate of mammary tumors in female rats is between 75-90%, so it's a good bet that your rat will eventually get one (I'd recommend a female, BTW, as males are generally more prone to biting and smell a bit more). The tumors will swell up rapidly and look very large, but they generally don't cause the rat any pain. Rats only have to be euthanized for a tumor if a) the tumor is preventing them from walking, eating, or any other normal activities, or b) if the tumor gets infected and has sepsis, which causes the rat a great deal of pain.

- An average rat will live around two years.

Rats are a far better pet than any other rodent, IMO, because they are so intelligent. It's not uncommon for a rat to invent "games" to play with you -- for example, my rat enjoys being taken out, put into a blanket, and peeking out at me from random points in the blanket. The object of this is to see if I can guess where she'll peek out next. It's clear that it's a conscious decision on the rat's part that it's a game, too, because if I walk away she'll come out of the blanket outright and look for me until I come back.

EDIT: I forgot to address your question about going on trips: if your rat has a companion, they should be fine for at least a week while you're away, provided they have enough food and their cage is well-ventilated (which it should be anyway). If you're away for much longer than that, the cage might start to get an over-abundance of ammonia fumes from their urine, which could give them respiratory problems. If your rat is by itself, I would not recommend leaving it for more than a day or two.

Also, an important note about bedding: DO NOT BUY pine or cedar shavings -- these shavings give many rats respiratory problems.
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
My wife and I kept rats for about the first 9 years of our marriage, but I won't let her buy them anymore. They're wonderful, intelligent, cute, but they live heartbreakingly short lives, and it gets harder and harder to lose them.

Evidently, if you have a rat spayed or neutered, the chance of mammary tumors (and males can get them too) goes WAY down, and they can live for up to 7 years. The tumors by the way are almost always benign, but in addition to the reasons human5892 listed, the main thing that ends up killing rats with tumors is that they end up taxing their immune system and the rats eventually succumb to respiratory infection. Out of the 9 or 10 rats we've owned, 7 of them died because of that.

All of the rats we've owned have been females, and there was NEVER a smell as long as the cages were kept clean.

Some of the more memorable rats:
Yuuku (basically means "trouble" in Japanese) was our little "sewer rat". She was the standard grey/brown of a wild rat. When she was a baby, she escaped and we couldn't find her for 2 days. Finally, we heard a rustling in the kitchen trash can, and there she was. Eventually she calmed down and LOVED to be held & cuddled.

Katerina Ratt was a blue rat, really pretty & cute. She was our toe-biter, and was by far the smartest & coolest rat we've ever owned. We left the top of her cage open, and she'd go explore at night & climb back in when she was done. She'd even return to her cage to go to the bathroom, which was awful nice of her. Mornings, I'd feed our parrot and feel a gentle nibble on my toes -- she'd hide under the cage & playfully "attack" when I got close enough. She'd also steal scrabble tiles as my wife & I would play, and she would come when you called her. Very, very cool rat.

Anyway yeah, rats are the best rodent pet you can get, EXCEPT for the short life expectancy.
 

human5892

Queen of Denmark
SteveMeister said:
She'd even return to her cage to go to the bathroom, which was awful nice of her.
WOW. Is there anything you can recommend to train a rat this way, or did she do this on her own?

My rat is pretty tame, but I don't think she would be that obedient, or even understand that she should go back to her cage to go to the bathroom.
 

Takuan

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I don't plan on getting a pet rat anytime soon, but I was wondering if anyone knows why the tumor rate's so high? Is it 'cause they tend to hang around heavily polluted areas? Just curious.
 

human5892

Queen of Denmark
Takuan: I'm not sure, but I don't think it's because of pollution, since many rats are bred professionally in very safe, humane conditions. It's likely some kind of genetic issue.
 

human5892

Queen of Denmark
BTW, for demon and anyone else interested: The Pet Rat Information Sheet is a great source of information on how to take care of rats. It's a little strict at points and it's incorrect on a few things (like the bedding issue I talked about earlier), but taken as a general FYI it's the best single source of information I've found. It came in very handy when I first got my rat.
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
human5892 said:
WOW. Is there anything you can recommend to train a rat this way, or did she do this on her own?

My rat is pretty tame, but I don't think she would be that obedient, or even understand that she should go back to her cage to go to the bathroom.

She did it on her own. Like I said, she was a very, very cool rat :)
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
As far as the tumor thing goes, I have an hypothesis about it. Since spaying or neutering a rat, or allowing it to breed, can enable a rat to live for up to 7 years without tumors, and since both male and female rats who are intact and DON'T ever breed usually get the mammary tumors within 2-3 years, it seems to me that the cause is hormonal.

It's almost as if there's something in rats that KILLS OFF the ones that don't contribute to the gene pool. Not breeding? Well you're consuming food without furthering the species, so you're outta here.

It's kind of freaky, but it really seems like that's the way it is.
 
Get a Degu. As smart as rats (who are smart, as pets go) but way friendlier and deal well with being handled. They look like a cross between a rat and a squirrel, but are smaller than either.

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I had several in college and they were great pets. Also great escape artists!
 

Ristamar

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My friend's ex had a rat. He said it was pretty well behaved, ignoring the fact it liked to chew about anything it came across.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
teiresias said:
Chinchilla
I was at Petsmart yesterday...

Rat: $7
Chichilla: $120

No thank you.

What are they like as pets, though? Same for degus.
 
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