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[LyleLanley]

It's completely antithetical to Apple's whole approach to UI right now. They've fully embraced taking apps full screen, even moving that philosophy into OS X. Tiny boxes filled with bits of info is going the other direction. I could see two possibilities. Live app icons, or a separate widget dashboard that's hidden from view unless called, like on OS X. Anything other than that seems like a step backwards from their current approach.

I don't see them changing the way Safari handles tabs, either. The current method works well, especially on the iPad 2. Notifications is the most likely to be overhauled.

The more I think about where OSX is going the more I doubt we'll ever see widgets on iOS. Widgets on the current OSX is already kind of an afterthought. Also, regarding the way Safari handles tabs if people have a problem with it just download iCab.

I don't mind the iPad 2 being iPad 1.5 like so many reviews are suggesting ("iPad 1 owners don't have much reason to upgrade" is everywhere) but why is the camera so bad? All the reviews I'm reading say it's terrible for video and still shots. The iPhone 4's camera is great, there's no reason for that.

The cameras are so bad because they made the new iPad really thin so they had to use the iPod touch cameras. Which are very shitty.

 

[foodtaster]

I don't have any experience with the Nook or what they go for on Craigslist. You maybe could put it out there and see what offers you can get. I was able to sell an iPad 1 16gb for $350 there 3 days ago, so maybe you can get a good deal.

Y'know, thinking about it, it's crazy how good the resale value of these apple products are. If you stay up to date, you only pay ~$150 to upgrade yearly. Or about $12 a month.

 

[Marty Chinn]

It may actually be a little deliberate. They may want to focus on the app experience, at least on the iPhone, by making it by a utility device rather than a mini Desktop.

Of late, I have been wanting apps that actually do less, rather than more. I want apps that do one thing, but does them well, rather than an app that half-arses a dozen functions.

But that's a different discussion.

I would actually love to see some live-updating icon api action if it wasn't a huge drain to battery.

That's fine, make it an option. I don't see why an option is so bad. Folders are an option, push notifications are an option, task bar is an option, etc. There are plenty of options that people don't use but it's nice to have them.

Widgets IMO would just be a click glance of info and if you want more you open the app by activiating it on the widget or app icon.

If people just thought it through, it could easily be done even if it was somewhat limited to keep it simple. Something has to be at least a bit better than nothing. I know others disagree but I actually don't care too much about it on the iPhone; at least not as much as I care about it on the iPad.

 

[Neuromancer]

Well I got my cover in the mail today. Now it's just 2-3 weeks before my iPad 2 comes! Woohoo!

...

='(

 

[Teddman]

so how common is this light bleeding issue?

i'd hate to receive my new shiny ipad only to have to bring it to an apple store to get replaced on the same day. =\

It's as common as being an issue to some extent with every single unit.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

Widgets IMO would just be a click glance of info and if you want more you open the app by activiating it on the widget or app icon.

If people just thought it through, it could easily be done even if it was somewhat limited to keep it simple. Something has to be at least a bit better than nothing. I know others disagree but I actually don't care too much about it on the iPhone; at least not as much as I care about it on the iPad.

You're endlessly calling for something that more than likely is never going to happen. Either buy one or get an Android device. I just don't understand it!

 

[numble]

Y'know, thinking about it, it's crazy how good the resale value of these apple products are. If you stay up to date, you only pay ~$150 to upgrade yearly. Or about $12 a month.

Yeah, the exterior of Apple products is made of quality stuff nowadays that don't wear and tear as easily as plastic parts. Anyway I kept the original box, and the iPad is more easy to keep from getting scratched/dented because it's not like a phone that's always in your pocket or waved around in one hand 5 feet from the ground. I bought the first iPad with $300 in gift certificates too.

I bet I could've gotten a better deal too--I only decided at like the very last minute that I wanted to upgrade. I had been following the news all along so I could've probably sold it earlier and gotten more.

 

[LyleLanley]

It's as common as being an issue to some extent with every single unit.

Let's not go that far, mine seems to be perfect.

 

[jdmonmou]

I'm just anxiously awaiting for my ipad 2 to arrive. I still got about 3 weeks to go since the website says it will not ship until April 1st. Is there any chance Apple may be able to ship out ipads sooner for those that ordered online?

 

[Marty Chinn]

It's completely antithetical to Apple's whole approach to UI right now. They've fully embraced taking apps full screen, even moving that philosophy into OS X. Tiny boxes filled with bits of info is going the other direction. I could see two possibilities. Live app icons, or a separate widget dashboard that's hidden from view unless called, like on OS X. Anything other than that seems like a step backwards from their current approach.

I don't see them changing the way Safari handles tabs, either. The current method works well, especially on the iPad 2. Notifications is the most likely to be overhauled.

A seperate screen would be fine for me. Heck you can put it in the Spotlight screen. When you search there it hides the widgets to show the results. Live app icons would be nice but there's so little info you could convey in that small of a space. It'll be nice for the weather app but not much more else.

OSX really is going towards full screen apps? That seems like a waste of space on large monitors. Makes maybe more sense on a laptop, but on a desktop? Do you regular OSX users really like that push towards one app at a time on screen taking up a 27" monitor?

 

[dallow_bg]

The cameras are so bad because they made the new iPad really thin so they had to use the iPod touch cameras. Which are very shitty.

They used crappy sensors, that's all there is to it.

 

[Marty Chinn]

You're endlessly calling for something that more than likely is never going to happen. Either buy one or get an Android device. I just don't understand it!

What part of Android tablets have a ton of problems don't you understand? Xooms problems are numerous that it doesn't make it a clear choice. Right now the only two clear advantages I see are tabbed browsing and widgets. Otherwise an iPad has way more advantages at the moment over Honeycomb. Honeycomb is just too early and rough around the edges, not to mention companies seem to have some sort of love for 16:10 screens. Not to mention the software support is way too young at this point.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

What part of Android tablets have a ton of problems don't you understand? Xooms problems are numerous that it doesn't make it a clear choice. Right now the only two clear advantages I see are tabbed browsing and widgets. Otherwise an iPad has way more advantages at the moment over Honeycomb. Honeycomb is just too early and rough around the edges, not to mention companies seem to have some sort of love for 16:10 screens. Not to mention the software support is way too young at this point.

So buy an iPad then, instead of creating a list of features you want that are probably never going to arrive.

 

[numble]

The cameras are so bad because they made the new iPad really thin so they had to use the iPod touch cameras. Which are very shitty.

That was the excuse for the iPod Touch (because it is VERY VERY thin), but the iPad is similar in thickness to the iPhone 4, so they could have fit the iPhone cameras in there if they wanted. But they can afford to put more things in the iPhone 4 because they sell them for $700+ to the carriers (who sell it back to customers at $200/300).

 

[LyleLanley]

OSX really is going towards full screen apps? That seems like a waste of space on large monitors. Makes maybe more sense on a laptop, but on a desktop? Do you regular OSX users really like that push towards one app at a time on screen taking up a 27" monitor?

I'm pretty excited for it given it's integration with multitouch gestures and mission control.

What part of Android tablets have a ton of problems don't you understand? Xooms problems are numerous that it doesn't make it a clear choice. Right now the only two clear advantages I see are tabbed browsing and widgets. Otherwise an iPad has way more advantages at the moment over Honeycomb. Honeycomb is just too early and rough around the edges, not to mention companies seem to have some sort of love for 16:10 screens. Not to mention the software support is way too young at this point.

For the millionth time, download iCab.

 

[Teddman]

Let's not go that far, mine seems to be perfect.

It's nearly every unit out there, seems so when you have people returning iPads 2 or 3 times and still getting defective units like in this MacRumors thread. People are either returning or living with it until the problem is hopefully fixed in a month or more.

It's not an exaggeration to say it's more likely your iPad 2 will have backlight bleeding to a noticeable degree than not.

 

[LyleLanley]

It's not an exaggeration to say it's more likely your iPad 2 will have backlight bleeding to a noticeable degree than not.

Yeah, but it is an exaggeration to say that every unit has problems.

 

[Tobor]

A seperate screen would be fine for me. Heck you can put it in the Spotlight screen. When you search there it hides the widgets to show the results. Live app icons would be nice but there's so little info you could convey in that small of a space. It'll be nice for the weather app but not much more else.

OSX really is going towards full screen apps? That seems like a waste of space on large monitors. Makes maybe more sense on a laptop, but on a desktop? Do you regular OSX users really like that push towards one app at a time on screen taking up a 27" monitor?

Adding them to the spotlight screen sounds possible.

 

[Marty Chinn]

I'm pretty excited for it given it's integration with multitouch gestures and mission control.

Just seems like a waste of real estate space since on large monitors, outside of using MS Visual, ProDG, and like the PS3 and 360 performance captures, I tend to have apps not at full screen. I'll have to check it out when they release Lion, but an interesting trend they're going for.

For the millionth time, download iCab.

The problem with iCab is it's not integrated into the OS. A lot of apps integrate into Safari so I would hate having to go between two browsers. If Apple let's me choose a default browser, I'd be all over it, but we all know it'll be a cold say in hell before Apple does that.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

Just seems like a waste of real estate space since on large monitors, outside of using MS Visual, ProDG, and like the PS3 and 360 performance captures, I tend to have apps not at full screen. I'll have to check it out when they release Lion, but an interesting trend they're going for.

I agree, I hate fullscreen apps on large monitors.

 

[Teddman]

Yeah, but it is an exaggeration to say that every unit has problems.

I do think it is a problem to some extent with every unit, or at least close enough to generalize for all practical purposes.

Try cranking your brightness up to max and viewing a black fullscreen image on your iPad.

 

[kame-sennin]

Are there any good security cases for the iPad 2? I'm going to be displaying digital comics at an upcoming convention and I'd like to be able to show off the iPad app, but I'm not really comfortable just handing iPads to strangers. Is there something with a lock and cable that works well?

 

[Buckethead]

You know what I really want on the iPad?

Wish lists on iBooks and the App Store.
I'm going to email Steve. =P

 

[numble]

Are there any good security cases for the iPad 2? I'm going to be displaying digital comics at an upcoming convention and I'd like to be able to show off the iPad app, but I'm not really comfortable just handing iPads to strangers. Is there something with a lock and cable that works well?

Googling "Security Cable iPad 2" gets a couple of results. Here's one.
http://www.maclocks.com/i-pad-lock/ipad-2-security-case-and-lock-bundle.html

Make sure to enable Find My iPhone on your iPad as well.

 

[dallow_bg]

Mine bleeds in 5 spots.
I have to crank the brightness on a black screen to see it.

But since I always use mine at 25% or less, it's never a problem fortunately.

 

[mrkgoo]

Adding them to the spotlight screen sounds possible.

I've thought about that before, but often wondered whether that would clutter that screen. I know it's blank at the moment, but it may be very intentional to allow for the 'flow' of results to appear.

That said, I hardly ever use spotlight. I think the only time I do is when I'm on someone else's device and I have no idea where they put certain apps. Personally, the whole swipe-left could be a widget screen for me, and relegate spotlight somewhere else.

And if you think Apple has exhausted what they can do with one button, a second click of the home button that isn't a double-click takes you to spotlight. They could commandeer either that or the swipe-left to something else. Also, holding the home button doesn't do anything at the moment.

I'm not saying it's good to wedge in all these controls, just sayin'. It's pretty nuts as it is, but those who have been around since day 1 have an advantage.


Marty Chinn: I know I've argued this before, and I'm always vilified when I do, but I don't think options are always the right way to go. Most of the time, yes, options are nice, but I often find choice to be distressing in many ways. I was reading a blog entry about it the other day, and that was my first confirmation that I'm not totally mad.

 

[krypt0nian]

You know what I really want on the iPad?

Wish lists on iBooks and the App Store.
I'm going to email Steve. =P

Dooeet!

 

[foodtaster]

y'know, Apple should have a leasing program for all of their stuff so the majority of people just upgrade yearly anyway. $40 a month for iPad 13 months min.

 

[D4Danger]

Mine bleeds in 5 spots.
I have to crank the brightness on a black screen to see it.

But since I always use mine at 25% or less, it's never a problem fortunately.

You should go and get it replaced if Apple are doing it. That much bleed isn't normal and usually a sign of poor build quality.

 

[dallow_bg]

You should go and get it replaced if Apple are doing it. That much bleed isn't normal and usually a sign of poor built quality.

Hmm, I'd hate for it to get worse.

How long would I have to exchange it?

 

[numble]

y'know, Apple should have a leasing program for all of their stuff so the majority of people just upgrade yearly anyway. $40 a month for iPad 13 months min.

You're still gonna be paying $440 per iPad. If you buy and resell for $300 each year, you'll pay $200 each year after the initial $500.

Hmm, I'd hate for it to get worse.

How long would I have to exchange it?

1 year to exchange for defects.

14 days for returns to get your money back.

 

[D4Danger]

Hmm, I'd hate for it to get worse.

How long would I have to exchange it?

I don't know what Apple's policies are but it's only been out a week so must be inside the warranty

 

[LyleLanley]

Hmm, I'd hate for it to get worse.

How long would I have to exchange it?

I'm pretty sure you'd be able to turn that in anytime since it's under warranty.

 

[dallow_bg]

Thank you all.

 

[Buckethead]

Dooeet!

I did, he'll probably reply "write them down on a piece of paper".

xD

 

[dallow_bg]

I did, he'll probably reply "write them down on a piece of paper".

xD

It'd be nice.
I currently use the AppShopper thing for my App wishlist.

 

[foodtaster]

You're still gonna be paying $440 per iPad. If you buy and resell for $300 each year, you'll pay $200 each year after the initial $500.



1 year to exchange for defects.

14 days for returns to get your money back.

Yeah, but then they could have a lease on the previously leased ones for $20, and that's where the incentive would come in.

 

[krypt0nian]

I did, he'll probably reply "write them down on a piece of paper".

xD

I actually laughed out loud.

 

[Buckethead]

It'd be nice.
I currently use the AppShopper thing for my App wishlist.

Yeah. I use the iTunes one.

I want it most for iBooks. I hear about good books all the time but never can remember them. It'd be helpful to file that stuff away.

 

[kehs]

How does the ipad get along with file systems on networks?

I'm on the fence on how to go with a tablet.

The current setups I need to interact with are two NAS servers that are acting like file dumps essentially. The first one, I just need to get into directories to show off certain images. The reason for this setup is because they contain more than just images, there are other production files that are structured by other characteristics(those can't change). As well as using it to show specifics galleries.

The second NAS has movie dumps and music dumps from years and years of converting things to digital. I'm guessing I need to get itunes involved in the equation for this? The music is being accessed by winamp for syncing with an android device.

 

[LyleLanley]

How does the ipad get along with file systems on networks?

I'm on the fence on how to go with a tablet.

The current setups I need to interact with are two NAS servers that are acting like file dumps essentially. The first one, I just need to get into directories to show off certain images. The reason for this setup is because they contain more than just images, there are other production files that are structured by other characteristics(those can't change). As well as using it to show specifics galleries.

The second NAS has movie dumps and music dumps from years and years of converting things to digital. I'm guessing I need to get itunes involved in the equation for this? The music is being accessed by winamp for syncing with an android device.

Download goodreader and have it connect to your servers, you'll be able to open up all your files in there or send them to other apps.

 

[Aaron]

I do think it is a problem to some extent with every unit, or at least close enough to generalize for all practical purposes.

Try cranking your brightness up to max and viewing a black fullscreen image on your iPad.

Mine definitely bleeds in the corner, but it's only noticeable at full brightness. In dark at normal brightness it's hard to spot. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if this problem existed in all/nearly all models.

 

[Marty Chinn]

How does the ipad get along with file systems on networks?

I'm on the fence on how to go with a tablet.

The current setups I need to interact with are two NAS servers that are acting like file dumps essentially. The first one, I just need to get into directories to show off certain images. The reason for this setup is because they contain more than just images, there are other production files that are structured by other characteristics(those can't change). As well as using it to show specifics galleries.

The second NAS has movie dumps and music dumps from years and years of converting things to digital. I'm guessing I need to get itunes involved in the equation for this? The music is being accessed by winamp for syncing with an android device.

In general it doesn't work very well from my experience. It'll really depend on the app though but for the most part, don't expect it. It wasn't until I did a JB on the iPad before I could get it to work the way I wanted with a NAS server for my media by using XBMC. Then it was godly.

 

[japtor]

iPad 1 owners who upgraded to iPad 2.. worth it?

Yes, however I will say I'm annoyed at some stuff since they seem to have been capped so they don't run any better. Most stuff shows a noticeable improvement though, and if you web browse a lot it's a massive improvement.

As someone who just got the iPad 2, I love the upgrade. Browsing the internet on it, especially with iCab, is so much better than before. Beyond that, the speed increase is nice but it will really shine when apps that take advantage of the hardware upgrades come out. The cameras are a bit of a disappointment though, I knew they would be bad, but the rear camera is really bad. I wish they would've just gone with one good camera in the front and skipped the rear camera.

The rear camera is awesome for Star Wars Falcon Gunner. I mean it looks like shit and all (bad cameras, iPhone game so pixel doubling), but the AR gimmick is much better cause the sheer size of the screen.

That's pretty good. Y'know, I have a NOOK Color + another Nook Color new in the box. Should I sell both and get an iPad 2? Sell 1 and add $~$125 in cash to get an iPad, or keep the NOOK and wait it out for the iPad 3 HD?

...weren't you holding out for a 7" iPad? I think in your case maybe go for a cheap iPad 1. Worst case you can probably resell it without much of a hit (whether cause you don't like it or want iPad 2 instead).

I'm not saying it's good to wedge in all these controls, just sayin'. It's pretty nuts as it is, but those who have been around since day 1 have an advantage.

I think the most likely candidates for overhauling are the Spotlight and multitasking screens. Just replace them with...something. They're already doing a similar overhaul in Lion, pretty much killed off the old implementation Exposé and Spaces and replaced them with Mission Control.

edit-another option is something else entirely that no one will predict, they tend to pull that stuff out of their asses too.

How does the ipad get along with file systems on networks?

It's a really big "depends." There's some SMB browsers, some NAS companies have their own apps, and craploads of random other variables are involved. To get stuff into the built in media apps (iPod, Videos, Photos) you need iTunes though. Otherwise there's other storage/playback options I think, as well as streaming from the NAS (if all the other parts come together for your setup).

 

[krypt0nian]

Download goodreader and have it connect to your servers, you'll be able to open up all your files in there or send them to other apps.

Yup, GoodReader is like fucking magic in so many ways.

 

[Ephemeris]

I love me some widgets. Love them. Really don't get the hate; unless the ones griping have never used 'em before.

Wonder how fast the haters would change their tune if they showed up in iOS 5.

 

[LyleLanley]

Yup, GoodReader is like fucking magic in so many ways.

Along those lines, for videos use Air Video and for Music use Audiogalaxy. With these three apps I don't even really need to sync to iTunes.

 

[krypt0nian]

Along those lines, for videos use Air Video and for Music use Audiogalaxy. With these three apps I don't even really need to sync to iTunes.

I worship Air Video as well. Checking out Audiogalaxy to see if it's pertinent to my needs.

Edit: now that the iPod app streams my desktop iTunes library I think I'm set without it.

 

[LyleLanley]

I worship Air Video as well. Checking out Audiogalaxy to see if it's pertinent to my needs.

It's great, it scans your computer for music and then streams it to your iOS and I think android devices just like Air Video.

 

[jax (old)]

added Martin to my ignore list. too tiresome.

anyhow... I'm really looking forward to IPAD 2. My portfolio is on my linkus photo manager pro and its lags a tad when loading images - you know how its a bit fuzzy before it snaps into focus once it loads? Same with PDFes + zinios + pixelmags. These are the reasons why I want Ipad 2. Not for games so much or anything else. Portfolio + reading apps.

The Linkus app is great by the way.