You'd think $100 off would be easy enough compared to the cost of the ipad 3. $399 entry price. No real need to go much cheaper considering the competition is still scrabbling around.
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You'd think $100 off would be easy enough compared to the cost of the ipad 3. $399 entry price. No real need to go much cheaper considering the competition is still scrabbling around.
Crazymoogle
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Not very. It's in their best interest to keep some stock vs. selling clean out on everything. They'll need iPad 2 to support iPad 3 sales, at least, until they can meet demand on the latter.
True, unless they really want to be aggressive. If it was possible, let's say, to drop it to $299, that would decimate the competition even further. Even Amazon would be in a tougher spot, since $100 difference for a far superior product is a no brainer.
kevo_huevo
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i tried using handbrake to rip some of my favorite tv show episodes to my laptop then to my ipad. however, when i played the episodes back, it was really choppy and had green pixels everywhere. i noticed the fps on playback was like 10-11...is there a recommended setting (other than auto) to get proper playback?
edit: audio is perfectly fine, just video is messing up for me.
edit: audio is perfectly fine, just video is messing up for me.
are you using the built-in Handbrake iPad preset for the videos going to your iPad?
kevo_huevo
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yeah, i believe so. im at work so i cant really look at the ui...but from what i remember, the extent of settings/calibration was just selecting ipad from the right side of the window.
LyleLanley
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I really like the idea. The big factor though is the price. Text books are stupid expensive and digital copies will eliminate anything you can get back resale wise. So two things I want, either a rental model so I can have a low price, or just a lower price in general.
Hopefully they'll announce a new iWork at this too. Seems like it could be the right time.
LyleLanley
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Man I hated buying textbooks so damn much. The worst was how every textbook came out with a new version every semester so that the copy you had was pretty much worthless.
Damn i never recognize you anymore. Explain the avatar
The article says the price is free and that would be interesting. But Apple cant get every textbook on there, especially for universites which deal with a wide range of texts. I dont see many people buying textbooks anymore, you can usually pass the course without it and just going to every lecture.
I dont see how iWork ties into what the event is supposed to be about and it's not like Apple to announce unrelated products at the same time... unless Apple is going to push iWorks as a student tool? I just want a notebook app :/
This could be quite amazing if done right, but I just don't see it happening if it's iPad-only (which it will be).
UNLESS, a cheaper streamlined iPad arrives specifically for this parker, but I doubt that as well. Keeping around the iPad 2 after the 3/4/HD versions release, for a cheaper price point, could work though.
brotkasten
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Imo a HD iPad will turn out to be more useful for textbooks than whatever Apple has cooked for this event
Unless Apple is working with certain institutions (hint hint) about providing them to incoming students...
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Does this get its own Thread?
well at least theres no way to misinterpret this invite into something more exciting.
I think it might be worth a thread, sure, but I think gigas right that it should just be made before the thing starts. there might be some announcement thats worthy of discussion for people still in school or working as teachers.
Give me digital textbooks on the iPad. Not that inkling app
LyleLanley
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It's a ripoff either way, at least now you don't have to carry gigantic textbooks.
I wish this announcement would include an iPen. I don't understand why they continue to overlook this use case. I don't want to use paper anymore, nor do I want to use any of the 100 crappy write-with-your-finger apps.
Along those lines, where is the Mac or Browser iBook client?
Along those lines, where is the Mac or Browser iBook client?
Crazymoogle
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Agreed, but it won't happen unless Apple decides to license a digitizer (AKA wait for new hardware). There is a 3rd party solution in the works but the only elegant solution is something exactly like what Samsung has done with the Galaxy Note.
FreeMufasa
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Na, I need to save money and I want an iPad. I just posted that as a thought, I don't where you got the problem from.
Technosteve
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I used to buy the txt books and spend the day at the engineering department's copier. I would rip the spine off and just scan everything in to the copier. That was my digital "textbook".
Phoenix
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And now your professors don't have to complete the books/binders before the semester. They can just publish updates as the year goes on.
Phoenix
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If I were building a pricing strategy I would do a $299 iPad 2 with a $50 student app store credit. But that's just me.
Do they play fine on a computer? It kind of sounds like corrupt files, either that or out of spec for the iPad. What resolution and nitrate were they?
"Apple buys Ground Zero land in NYC, plans to construct monster educational campus"
I would buy that if my books were available, if reasonably priced (like iTunes Match I guess) and properly formatted for tablets with dynamic text reflow and stuff, rather than just PDFs with fonts too damn small for the screen.
...those too. I'm taking classes online and they've all been available digitally at least (well HBR), although one class some custom book only available from the school's printer.
I have a flatbed multifunction and did the same with my last textbook, without the whole ripping the spine out part since I planned to resell it. Pain in the ass but it worked even if it was slightly annoying to read cause the page sizes, better than the actual book still.
brotkasten
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You don't like profits, do you?
mescalineeyes
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The textbooks will most likely be free and made by Apple.
It would be nice if people actually read up on things before discussing them.
It would be nice if people actually read up on things before discussing them.
It's been mentioned already in the thread but nobody is discussing it because it just seems too fantastical, such an astonishingly bad idea, for it to actually happen. Besides it would most likely be restricted to the USA and many posters here might never have access to it
Crazymoogle
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It's also a case of marketing - when the iPad 3 comes out, that's all Apple wants people to talk about. iPad 2 at that point becomes an overflow product. It would be self-defeating marketing to announce your hot new product, then turn around and market a cheaper alternative. Besides, Apple has no need to flood the market with iPad 2. Their products need to be desired, and it's hard to be that if it's suddenly everywhere on firesale.
it's a matter of degrees. an ipad 2 at 300 or 400 isn't a firesale. it's not devaluing the name of the ipad. similar to how an iphone 4 at 99 (and 3GS for free) bucks isn't currently devaluing the 4S (4S is still number 1 in sales and is plenty desirable).
Apple won't sell old iPads at a loss (if they do keep that line open for sales) so there's no way we'll see firesale prices like with the playbook or touchpad.
LyleLanley
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The difference there is that you have to pay for a two year contract along with that.
There is precedent: when Apple introduced the third generation iPod Touch they would only sell the 32GB and 64GB models (for $300 and $400 respectively). They kept the second generation iPod Touch 8GB as the entry level model for $229.
True but the no contract prices are also lower. 3GS for 375 bucks is relatively cheap.
I'm just saying that Apple has shown recently that they can have one or two lower priced options on the market and not give off the impression of desperation and cheapness. that's all I want to point out.
They may still decide that they don't want to sell iPad 2 at all after the 3 comes out and that's fine but I think they'll keep the 2 around. I also think it won't be cheaper than 400 bucks.
Crazymoogle
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I see what you're saying. Not sure I entirely agree (the phone market has tons of 0/cheap phones, so the market pressure is different) but it's a fair point.
But the $250 (after discount) argument is more or less what I was aiming at. I think students are a very lucrative market for Apple. Here in the university area of Montreal I'd say 8/10 laptops are Apple products. Students have occupied schools over an extra $300 of tuition per year but will have no trouble bringing a 15" MBP to study. They are this complex consumer that probably shouldn't justify more expensive products, but in the weird social-educational realm, will figure out a way to make it happen anyway. Unless the solution is cheap. (Gotta find beer'o'clock money somehow.)
To Apple, cutting the price that low - half that of the new gen product - makes little sense. Apple might only get 1-2 chances to sell students new product until they graduate. Having a slightly discounted product forces them to make that choice - dig a bit deeper for the new hotness, or save a little bit but come out of the store with something right now? Either way Apple makes more. At half price, they just empty out the store and accidentally eliminate the iPad 3 customers that were on the fence.
So would that fix the problem of say hitting your hand on the screen when writing? I would love for them to include something like that with the new ipad. I could imagine it being really awesome with the supposed higher resolution screen.
Apparently there is a third party solution that looks pretty damn slick http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1225098940/ipen-the-first-active-stylus-for-ipad
brotkasten
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A Wacom digitizer would allow that, yes. I loved it, when I used the Thinkpad X220 Tablet.
e: Man, an iPad 3 with a 2048x1536 resolution and a Wacom digitizer would be something ...
Wow, I'm such a goon. I bought my gf an iPad 2 a few months back and was browsing GAF on it last night. How the hell can I highlight spoilers? And whilst I can rapidly one-touch scroll to the top (by putting my finger right at the top of the screen) is there a way I can do the same to the bottom?
Crazymoogle
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Yes; basically the software has to temporarily disable touch input. That way only the digitizer is telling the device what's going on. I think some current software use multitouch and just try to recognize bigger input zones, but the only foolproof way is the above.
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Wrong thread...basically you should be using secondapps version of GAF, that way you do both of the things you want. In vanilla safari GAF, not sure...
I would buy that in a heartbeat. Having my textbook in there which I can freely write and highlight on, and can fix if I mess up. Then unlimited space for lecture notes. Might change my life.
You guys see the new Jot Touch?
http://adonit.net/product/jot-touch/
Website doesn't give a whole lot of info about it but I found this CES impression:
http://www.macworld.com/article/164...s_with_new_pressure_sensitive_ios_stylus.html
There is a video included in the macworld using it - but if you want to jump straight to that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViOmxr-TMzk
I have a Jot Pro so I'm a fan of Adonit and I hope they get this right.
http://adonit.net/product/jot-touch/
Website doesn't give a whole lot of info about it but I found this CES impression:
http://www.macworld.com/article/164...s_with_new_pressure_sensitive_ios_stylus.html
There is a video included in the macworld using it - but if you want to jump straight to that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViOmxr-TMzk
I have a Jot Pro so I'm a fan of Adonit and I hope they get this right.
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