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Apple Vision Pro VR will start at $3499.

Trilobit

Trilobit

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This looks like a great first generation product. I'm really excited to see where it will be in 5 years. I hope we'll eventually get this:

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something you feel comfortable wearing in the public. I'd love to use something like that while being at the gym or in a bus.

But for now I'm loving what Apple presented. Going for a crazy price tag and delivering something that really feels like the next step hopefully keeps people interested in the future of this tech.
 
RoboFu

RoboFu

One of the green rats
Not even talking about the price. that thing better have one hell of a screen if it wants to be anywhere near what was shown in that Video. :messenger_open_mouth:
 
Thirty7ven

Thirty7ven

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Dr. Claus said:
Well, they are correct. You can watch movies, take facetime, text, and code on a Mac and have multiple large screens open if you buy multiple large monitors.

But that is the thing, isn't it? You have to buy multiple monitors which can cost 500-1000 dollars depending on the quality. Then you need to buy the PC. Then you need to buy the mouse and keyboard and other accessories. With this, supposedly all you need is the headset and a cheap bluetooth keyboard. All in a small form factor.
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Exactly. This is the start of a new type of interface. It’s very exciting to wonder where we will be with it ten years from now.
 
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RoboFu said:
Not even talking about the price. that thing better have one hell of a screen if it wants to be anywhere near what was shown in that Video. :messenger_open_mouth:
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It’s easily the most advanced display ever on a consumer product. Like by miles

Frankly it makes my OLED irrelevant and obsolete.

Movie theaters are going to have to respond if this thing takes off.
 
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analog_future

analog_future

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marjo said:
Honest question, do you own any modern VR headsets? What, in your estimation, makes this such a leap over those? Things like the the Quest are already standalone, support markerless inside out tracking, hand gestures, etc.
The Valve Index has exceptional off ear audio, a wide FOV and supports high refresh rates. Everything here just looks like incremental improvements.
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Without revisiting the presentation, OpticID, greater-than-4k OLED displays for each eye, 3D digital persona scanning for video conferencing, external curved OLED display to show the wearer's eyes, and to easily communicate when the wearer can and cannot see people surrounding them, automatic detection if someone is near them and automatically phase that person into their display so they can see them while doing other activities, a super high-end M2/R1 chip built in, unrivaled build quality, an entire Apple quality OS built into taking advantage of the device within the Apple ecosystem from top to bottom, extremely high fidelity augmented reality, including 3D navigable photos and videos.

That's just off the top of my head, but I'm sure I'm missing a bunch.



Like, the Valve Index isn't even remotely comparable to what this device is attempting to achieve. That kind of talk reminds me of Steve Ballmer talking about the Windows Mobile & the Motorola Q when the iPhone was introduced.


I still personally think that AR/VR has a very niche consumer appeal, regardless of how well it works or how many feature it offers, but Apple is clearly going for something that no one has ever attempted thus far.
 
MrMephistoX

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Macaron said:
The AR focus is a fair point. AR/VR seem like fairly relative tech, but thats really an assumption tbh. But the biggest thing to me is that the largest company on Earth is now involved. Thats going to accelerate development across the entire AR/VR category as a whole, so long as this doesn't bomb so hard they pull out from continuing.
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TBH if it’s capable of doing fully immersive VR and they’re just taking the usual apple stance of letting the App Store figure it out this could be huge but then again the Apple TV is only $200 and didn’t exactly set the app developer world on fire so it’s hard to say if this will really take off at the ubiquitous level of the iPhone or if it will be a niche product. It looks cool aside from the elephant in the room for me the gigantic wire!
 
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jmbgator

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If it truly is able to do what they claim it can do... 4K, 3D, HDR and simulate watching a movie like you're in an IMAX theater, then $3,500 is technically a steal compared to buying a 98" OLED or home theater projector. We'll need to wait for the reviews.
 
RCU005

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I somehow, crazily believed that it would be between $1499, and $1999. Guess it’s out of my range by a lot!

I’ll try it at a store someday, but this will definitely be like the first Apple Watch that lasted one year and the second gen was miles better.
 
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onnextflix5

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Apple are so anti gaming, even if it is obvious that vision pro would benefit most for being gaming focused, they think people would rather just use it have flouting iPhone screens everywhere.
 
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MirageMew2

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Some of the display projection stuff is really neat. A lot of this reminds me of the HoloLens trailer from 5 years ago.
 
Draxon Gamer

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Price disaster being more than the rumors aside, there's one thing you have to give apple compared to current competition - they are actually going to have these at retail for people to try out.

They can have some strictly made demos to convince people to buy the headset without realizing it won't work the same way in real-time.
 
RoboFu

RoboFu

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Represent. said:
It’s easily the most advanced display ever on a consumer product. Like by miles

Frankly it makes my OLED irrelevant and obsolete.

Movie theaters are going to have to respond if this thing takes off.
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idk about MOVIE THEATERS. Most people go to the movies with OTHER people. not sit around and look into goggles together. lol


" Hey girl... want to come to my place and stare off into some goggles with me?" :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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Macaron

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MrMephistoX said:
TBH if it’s capable of doing fully immersive VR and they’re just taking the usual apple stance of letting the App Store figure it out this could be huge but then again the Apple TV is only $200 and didn’t exactly set the app developer world on fire so it’s hard to say if this will really take off at the ubiquitous level of the iPhone or if it will be a niche product. It looks cool aside from the elephant in the room for me the gigantic wire!
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First gen at that price point with no games in sight, it will be niche no doubt. But that doesn't take away from tech. We just need enough people to buy it for Apple to continue being part of this tech evolution, and what might've taken 15 years will now take 10 or less. Apple TV not really a viable comparison when you can't really say television technology is in early stages like you can with AR/VR.
 
Cyberpunkd

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FunkMiller said:
Oh yes. Everyone is going to want to stick that big stupid thing on the front of their head to send emails, watch Ted Lasso, and relive their bar mitzva.
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Everyone will want to constantly look into their small screen phones to watch movies and read books instead of just using them for calls.
 
DryvBy

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FunkMiller said:
I very much doubt it. Nothing in the show was geared towards VR. It was all AR. Apple clearly want this to be a home computing system, not a VR headset. Why the fuck would VR developers choose this - which very, very few people will buy - over something like the Quest 3, which many millions will?
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Apple must not understand there's only a few people this is for: hardcore Apple fans and people that are poor that use Rent-A-Center type business to keep up with the trailer park Jones.
 
dem

dem

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MirageMew2 said:
Some of the display projection stuff is really neat. A lot of this reminds me of the HoloLens trailer from 5 years ago.
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Its exactly like the HoloLens unveiling..

"Look.. I can have screens everywhere!"

Microsoft.. of course... chose the wrong technology. The FOV was not acceptable.
 
ToTTenTranz

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People can complain about the price all they want, but this isn’t a competitor to the Quest 3 or a smartphone.

This is an augmented reality / Metaverse enabler device. It's a competitor to Hololens 2.

And the Hololens 2 costs $3500 today, despite having launched in 2019.

This price means It's only for early adopters, developers and cases where this can be used professionally. Down the road they should be able to make it cheaper.

It's not an iphone replacement, yet.
 
aclar00

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Ive never owned an Apple product, but this will undoubtedly have a positive effect on the VR industry as a whole. Unfortunately, Apple is the generational leader in lots of consumer tech, and i dont see why that would change now. They will force other manfacturers to follow through on some of the technologies in the Vision Pro.

Given their ecosystem, this should fit in well... inser proverbial porn joke.
 
Victor Omega

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March Climber said:
No, this just means that in your eyes they're good at sweeping failures under the rug.

www.cnet.com

Apple's worst failures of all time, from AirPower to Bendgate to the Newton

From unforeseen glitches and lower-than-expected sales to design fails -- it doesn’t always go right for Apple.
www.cnet.com www.cnet.com

startuptalky.com

Biggest Failed Products of Apple in History

Apple is a trillion-dollar company with the best product offerings, but here we have listed a few failed or flop products of Apple that Apple wants you to forget.
startuptalky.com startuptalky.com

Never fully trust anyone who tries to convince you that they always have a perfect batting average.
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I'm no apple fan boy but I'm also no apple hater. I don't think Apple "sweeps failure" their a publicly shared company, I think everyone knows their failures. Apple also doesn't convince they are perfect unless you think they are to justify some Apple hatred.

If this is to say say that vision pro will fail then see you in five to ten years.
 
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Cyberpunkd

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Apple already did what no other manufacturer did - realised VR will not take off unless it leaves games behind. Business, productivity, social, games at the very end.
 
S

Sophist

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Do you guys also whine when the latest Bugatti or Ferrari is above one million of USA dollars? Rich stuff for rich people. For you, there is the PoorStation.
 
diffusionx

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jmbgator said:
If it truly is able to do what they claim it can do... 4K, 3D, HDR and simulate watching a movie like you're in an IMAX theater, then $3,500 is technically a steal compared to buying a 98" OLED or home theater projector. We'll need to wait for the reviews.
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Unless you permanently live by yourself and never have any guests over and never plan to ever have any guests over, spending $3500 on a headset to strap to your face instead of a TV or projector is a really bad idea.

This thing right now is purely a vanity and conspicuous consumption product.
 
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March Climber

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Victor Omega said:
If this is to say say that vision pro will fail then see you in five to ten years.
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In the long run, their concepts obviously won't fail, because across the board AR/VR apps will be improved. However the product itself could still fail even if they do help move the landscape forward...BUT this isn't the future. Right here right now, they have priced it way too high and haven't given any reason for average consumers with phones, laptops, and computers a great reason to buy a 3499 device. They have, however, given their competition plenty of reasons to improve their own headsets for a 4th of the price.
 
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