The Real Abed
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I'm referring to the one shown in this thread. The blue pad thing that lies down. Same effort because you simply plop it down in the Dock port. Zero effort really.
That's what I'm saying!
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Got the Shakes
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This should allow a 5 to work with the older connector. http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD823/lightning-to-30-pin-adapter
Or just wait for the cheaper Monoprice version.
Nope. It's not zero effort. And has been repeatedly mentioned in this thread, and by Nokia at their conference, the Qi
p.s If you going to be pedantic towards others then at least stick to the same standard yourself. 'exact' same, 'zero' effort... that's just wrong
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ok, just agree to disagree then. I'm out
Marty Chinn
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You said you didn't see any benefit of it but then said a reversable plug was good enough. What you said now wasn't what I quoted you on so that's why I questioned you on it. Inductive charging is easier than plugging in a cable.
The Real Abed
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Disagree. You can place a wirelessly-charging device on the charging surface any way you want. With a cable you need to use two hands, and with a dock you need to be accurate with the orientation. Also, depending on how the dock is made, it can be a little annoying to remove, if it's locked in too tight. It's much simpler to just lift the thing off a surface, as you would picking up your phone off a desk.
It's not a big deal but it's unquestionably easier, I dunno how this can be disputed.
The Real Abed
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Apple's Dock's are really no-brainers. They're easy as hell to aim for and don't lock. Don't know about third parties though.
The Real Abed
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That's okay, I don't have an opinion on docks anymore.
Speaking of which, how stupid are the people who backed that project? Lol.
Did Apple announce a new dock yet?
Nope haven't heard the new dock.
Somewhat related note: I'm now a bit envious of you guys who ordered a pebble (even though it won't be available at the iPhone 5 launch) now that the iPod nanowatch rumor proved to be baseless. I'm scrambling around trying to decide on an alternative solution
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the Pebble. I got an email asking for my shipping info, so hopefully it will be before Christmas.
Not if the cable itself could be inductive rather than being a plug. Large surface areas that have a plug to the wall for 'wireless'/inductive charging is not better than a cable imo.
You really aught to re-read, as that's never what I said.
Yeah, but that surface area actually takes up space and isn't portable, so you'd still be using the conventional method of plugs a lot. A charging surface isn't the solution to that problem imo. As you just said, the issue is speed and ease, but if you need to include two methods of charging, both a plug and an inductive surface accessory, it's already failed as a 'standard'. That problem can be solved in other ways than a bulky conductive surface. I can't see myself
actively using something like that personally. And it definitely would never replace plugs in their current form.
And it's not like it hasn't been around for a while.
So, I can't find anything on the news sites about an ipad mini. I might actually consider one if the price is right.
LOL! AT&T prices are cheaper. Non subsidized prices are $449, $549, $649. At least that is what's showing up on apple app
Well, considering the cheapest new generation ipod touch is $299, I highly doubt the new ipad mini would be cheaper than that. You're probably looking at around $400 for it...
But the cable is not inductive. You comparing some imaginary future cable to an actual existing inductive charging system. It's more likely that we'll get a 'proper wireless' charging system anyway (there are already tech demos) instead of the inductive charging cable you're arguing for
iPad mini even is rumored to be next month. I wouldn't expect anything less than $250 at this point, tbh. Knowing Apple it'll probably end up being $300.
Right, but my point was that it isn't the end all be all solution that Apple should even think of adopting at this point, as some were saying last page. It is a convenient gimmick at this point, not a future standard.
I'm expecting $400 (straight replacement of the iPad 2). No way it's $300 when that's the price of the new iPod Touch.
And instead Apple picked an inferior cable that they promise to keep for many years. The Qi is a standard right now. It might be replaced in the future but so what. By your logic Apple should have stuck with usb 2.0 and never improved instead waiting for future osmosis transfer.
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i fapped to the jony ive video i fapped to the machining part too
The Real Abed
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I was waiting for the Keynote to show up on iTunes Podcasts but it hasn't yet. Maybe I should just download it from Apple.com directly. Eh. Weird it's taking so long.
USB 3.0 doesn't require you to fundamentally change the device. There are always different ways of connectivity for data (SD USB, etc), but having multiple charging systems built in inherently tells you that it's a sort of gimmick and not in for the long run (as it doesn't seek to practically replace anything), whereas adopting USB 3.0 is with the very opposite goal and intentions in mind. Again, all i'm saying is that it isn't wrong for them not to adopt it right now, and it's not something that puts them backwards or developmentally behind in the slightest by not doing so.
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Probably a stupid question, but with the new Nano's out, what happens to the old ones? I always liked them and I like the form factor more for what I would use it for (gym/running). Will Apple just pull them all and make them disappear? Any chance to get one at a marked down price?
Solideliquid
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Does the new Nano have wifi? It would be nice if it could access iTunes Match without needing to be wire synced.
Marty Chinn
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I did reread and this is what you said:
What am I missing? You questioned if it was easier; it is easier. How is that quote not saying you don't see the benefit of it and that a reversible plug is good enough?
So my guess is that since new iPods and iTunes are all "October" that whenever they launch will be the same date as iPad mini.
They just want it to have its own conference. My guess is that will be one to two weeks after the iPhone launch so they can announce record sales at the beginning of that one
They did the same thing a few weeks after the iPad launch at their iOS event ios 4 event shortly after the iPad launched
They just want it to have its own conference. My guess is that will be one to two weeks after the iPhone launch so they can announce record sales at the beginning of that one
They did the same thing a few weeks after the iPad launch at their iOS event ios 4 event shortly after the iPad launched
So my guess is that since new iPods and iTunes are all "October" that whenever they launch will be the same date as iPad mini.
They just want it to have its own conference. My guess is that will be one to two weeks after the iPhone launch so they can announce record sales at the beginning of that one
They did the same thing a few weeks after the iPad launch at their iOS event ios 4 event shortly after the iPad launched
Speculation is that there will be some Mac updates at the iPad event.
So my guess is that since new iPods and iTunes are all "October" that whenever they launch will be the same date as iPad mini.
They just want it to have its own conference. My guess is that will be one to two weeks after the iPhone launch so they can announce record sales at the beginning of that one
They did the same thing a few weeks after the iPad launch at their iOS event ios 4 event shortly after the iPad launched
I don't even know the point of the iPad mini considering the iPod Touch pricing :|
It's all about the Benjamins. Baby.
Nope. Only bluetooth. Missed opportunity imo, especially since it has a lot of iOS elements already. Maybe it's just so weak that it wouldn't be able to handle any kind of internet transference. :lol
Speaking of the nano, I still think my mockup last week was kind of better than the final product (unfortunately);
But honestly, the entire home button thing make no sense. There's only like 6 apps anyway, why place the home button in such an iconic position as if you'd be pressing it all the time jumping from app to app. And yet the physical controls get pushed to the edge... Honestly, they shouldn't have wasted that space for the home button at all, and just used the swiping mechanic already in the miniOS. It'd look better imo;
^^^^ yep. Or just let the whole screen depress like the trackpads do. Gestures would be fine on the nano though.
Would make sense.
WordAssassin
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I keep seeing people say this but it's just wrong. They're different products entirely.
Why buy The iPod Touch when you can buy an iPhone for the same price or cheaper?
Why buy an iPad for $499 when you can get a 64Gig iPhone for that price?
Or why buy the 64Gig iPhone when you can buy a friggin' iPad?
Why buy the $799 iPad when you can get a Mac Mini for that price or cheaper?
Why buy the $1200 iMac when you can buy a MacBook Air for $200 less?
What's the point of an iPad mini that's priced at $200-300 when there's an iPod Touch that same price? How about it's an iPad. It's way larger than an iPod. It's used to do different things than an iPod does. I'm not going to buy an iPod Touch for $300 to read a book, watch a movie, or make art. Likewise, I'm not going to spend $300 on an iPad Mini if I intend to use it for listening to music and light gaming.
Different products. Different markets. Price overlap already happens in their OSX products and in their iOS products.
The Real Abed
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It's a shame they didn't put WiFi and a sort of WebKit browser in there. Hackers would have a field day with them. I'm still sad they didn't keep the older watch sized one and put WiFi/BlueTooth in it so we could have a real Apple branded Smart Watch that connected and talked to our iPhone/iPod touch/iPad/Macs. I said I'd buy a watch case if they did it. Got a notification on my iPhone? Look at my wrist. Oh, I don't need to reply to this. Good thing I didn't have to take my phone out of my pocket. Same with wandering around the house. Get email on my Mac, see it on my wrist.
Of course, that's really all overkill as it's not really that much effort to take your phone with you and look at it when it makes a sound... But it'd be sooo damn cool and futuristic, right?
(Yes, I am aware of the Sony Smart Watch. That's not the point. The point is keeping it all working together in one ecosystem. So don't bother linking it.)
Of course, that's really all overkill as it's not really that much effort to take your phone with you and look at it when it makes a sound... But it'd be sooo damn cool and futuristic, right?
(Yes, I am aware of the Sony Smart Watch. That's not the point. The point is keeping it all working together in one ecosystem. So don't bother linking it.)
The iPad Mini won't have as good of a screen or as good of a camera, or as much storage.
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I was SO close to buying an iPod Touch as a nice portable little brother to my iPad 2, then I saw the price.
It is $50-100 too expensive :/
What I may look into is the iPod Nano, that does look kind of sweet. I miss the built in clip that was in the model before.
It is $50-100 too expensive :/
What I may look into is the iPod Nano, that does look kind of sweet. I miss the built in clip that was in the model before.
Joel Was Right
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Has anyone tried iTunes 10.7? It doesn't look any different. Is the 'new iTunes' we saw at the keynote 10.7 or something higher? I thought it was leaked on the website but it looks like a different product
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itunes 11 launches 9/19
What, thought they said october.
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http://www.zdnet.com/apples-ipod-touch-pricing-doesnt-leave-space-for-the-ipad-mini-7000004178/
What if the iPad Mini doesn't exist?
I mean, it has to exist... right?
What if the iPad Mini doesn't exist?
I mean, it has to exist... right?
Diablohead
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Only thing I can think of now is the ipad mini will replace the current reduced ipad 2, anything less makes the touch stupidly overpriced.
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