Syphon Filter
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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing
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Sibersk Esto
Banned
Got turned down for an internship. I was pretty hopeful about this one too.
anonymous_abc
Member
You have a call from an unknown(?) number, just call back innocently.
IISANDERII
Member
I saw that thread! Wow, had no idea it was such a sophisticated operation, the site seems legit
Good guess!
Thanks for heads up guys
opticalmace
Member
They called me back guys and gave me job offer pending a background check. YAHAHA!
Also they sent a written job offer as well.
Congrats! What kind of work are you in?
Thank you!!!
Its one of the major bioinformatics service companies in the USA and they are expanding all around the world. I can't seem to land a job and it's getting depressing, I went through another interview and I'm pretty sure I'm not getting the position and I just can't keep being hopeful about this shit anymore. Like the sort of, I want something because of family, but I can't seem to get anything and I feel like I just want it to end. I'm tired of applications, letters rejecting, and I just want to fucking kill myself every time.
EverythingShiny
Member
What's your background and is it a position as a bioinformatician? I just graduated with an MS in Bioinformatics and I'm having a hell of a time finding bioinformatics-related jobs. It's making me seriously regret trying to get into that industry.Thank you!!!
Congrats on the job!
What's your background and is it a position as a bioinformatician? I just graduated with an MS in Bioinformatics and I'm having a hell of a time finding bioinformatics-related jobs. It's making me seriously regret trying to get into that industry.
Congrats on the job!
Thank you!!!
Its really tough out there. I applied to so many places and I did not get any replies back. It was really sad. I have been applying for the past year or so too. Just don't lose hope! Where are you located? East coast/West Coast? I think the main reason that I wasn't getting any hits was that I had not defended my dissertation back then.
So fortunately, I defended my PhD Dissertation this past December. So everything kind became simpler from then on. I had an interview for a post doc and this interview. I was going to apply to few more places for post docs, but not now.
Its a bioinformatician scientist position.
As for my background.... I worked on about 3 to 4 different projects ranging from everything that deals with genome, transcriptome assembly, RNA-Seq analysis, to protein modeling. So I have experience with variety of things. That is something that I found employers are looking for a lot. Also they are looking for someone who has tons of experience with SNPs now a days too, which I found really interesting.
I have experience developing my own methods to improve annotation for genomes and transcriptome assemblies. I have even taught/subbed in for some of my professors for teaching Bioinforamtics graduate level courses and given invited talks at international and local conferences...
Additionally, I have some programming and simple pipeline development experience as well. Overall, I am coming from more biological background than computer science background.
What is your background? Have you thought of doing a PhD? It definitely will increase your chances of getting more offers as compared to just a MS in Bioinformatics.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Caught in a dilemma with a job situation. Had two interviews last week. One was in a job out of town, but it only pays $9 an hour and I only work 20 hours per week. It'll take me two hours and some change to get their everyday plus I have to pay for the bus going and back everyday. Manager their said I was her best candidate, but I need to go through a second interview that she'll let me know about on Tuesday.
Got two more interviews this week. I talked to one on Friday I think and they said they would email me the address of their campus. Checked this morning and it's in South Carolina, but pays $43,000 a year. I doubt my mom will drive all the way down there though. I got another one that's with an insurance company I applied before, but didn't get. Mom is off this week, but I think if she finds out it's the same place she's going to throw a fit.
I also got another phone interview with some insurance company. Not sure what to do.
Got two more interviews this week. I talked to one on Friday I think and they said they would email me the address of their campus. Checked this morning and it's in South Carolina, but pays $43,000 a year. I doubt my mom will drive all the way down there though. I got another one that's with an insurance company I applied before, but didn't get. Mom is off this week, but I think if she finds out it's the same place she's going to throw a fit.
I also got another phone interview with some insurance company. Not sure what to do.
So I just sent an email saying I was interested in a job and I was going to attach my resume for their consideration. I forgot to attach my resume. I then sent an identical email, but with the resume attached. Please tell me what I did was the right thing and that this won't affect whether or not I get a call back. Please?!!?
The 9 dollars an hour 20 hours per week, with a 2 plus hour commute every day, not worth it. Not remotely.
43K a year seems like the best bet.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I enrolled into a training program at my community college. Pretty excited about it since it's me another opportunity to find a better job.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Right now I can't find a way to get down to South Carolina. My mother won't drive me and I looked up Amtrak tickets and the closest station is 30 miles from the city I have an interview in which is still in NC. Called today and asked if I could just do a phone interview and she said no, but let her know if I can't make it.
Ugh, that money sounds good, but I don't think I'll be able to do it. I might have to take the $9 or wait for this one other phone interview I'm supposed to have tomorrow. The insurance place on Wed I just feel like I won't get because I already applied there before and like I said when moms finds out she probably won't take me.
Not having a car or license sucks ass.
Yea, ill try and avoid that. They were really interested by my study experience abroad and my extra curricular stuff at Aiesec as marketing lead. Plus the fact that i was educating myself for google certificates while not working/searching for a job got me some praise too. Hoping to hear from them this week, they said they want to finalize everything in February.
falconxcrunner09
Member
Figure I would post here instead of a new thread. I'm starting to look around for a job, about to graduate with a Bachelor's degree in CS.
My dream job is to be able to work that job and coach cross country and track at the high school level. So that means I want to be able to work hours I can tell my supervisor/boss in advance, and need be, work from home to ensue I get everything done. I currently coach cross country and track and I have decided that I still want to continue it and work a full time job at the same. I really enjoy coaching a lot and I don't want to give it up if at all possible. But I realize that coaching is not my main career, so if there is no companies in the area that will let me do this, I will have to accept it.
However, I have heard of companies in my area that let you do this. I just don't know where to look. What should I be looking for on websites for companies when looking around? My career counselor gave me a list of companies to look at that potentially let me work from home and have flexible hours.
My dream job is to be able to work that job and coach cross country and track at the high school level. So that means I want to be able to work hours I can tell my supervisor/boss in advance, and need be, work from home to ensue I get everything done. I currently coach cross country and track and I have decided that I still want to continue it and work a full time job at the same. I really enjoy coaching a lot and I don't want to give it up if at all possible. But I realize that coaching is not my main career, so if there is no companies in the area that will let me do this, I will have to accept it.
However, I have heard of companies in my area that let you do this. I just don't know where to look. What should I be looking for on websites for companies when looking around? My career counselor gave me a list of companies to look at that potentially let me work from home and have flexible hours.
Barrel Cannon
Member
Been trying to find a part time job as a waiter over this last month and it's been pretty miserable as barely anyone seems to hire males with no previous experience and the ones that do liked me but weren't hiring at the moment.
I'm also looking to switch out of my current role as well because my current role's project aspect has become a lot smaller and as a result it has become a lot less fulfilling. It's been a busy month at work for all the wrong reasons and I haven't had/made the time to apply for a new full time position.
I'm also looking to switch out of my current role as well because my current role's project aspect has become a lot smaller and as a result it has become a lot less fulfilling. It's been a busy month at work for all the wrong reasons and I haven't had/made the time to apply for a new full time position.
Gray Matter
Member
I'm not actively looking for work right now, I like my current job, but if a good opportunity shows up, I at least have to look into it. That being said, a former colleague pointed me towards a few job prospects. I will most likely send in my resume and see what happens.
My question is, should I let my boss know that I will be doing this, be proactive about putting the jobs against each other, maybe my current job would offer me more money etc?
My question is, should I let my boss know that I will be doing this, be proactive about putting the jobs against each other, maybe my current job would offer me more money etc?
That's the right approach. Those kind of stories and experiences stand out. Be patient, wanting to finalize and actually finalizing are loose goals.
No. You don't have any leverage at this stage and are basically just putting a target on your back for no reason. You're perceived "loyalty" would be basically non-existent, which is valuable depending on your type of work.
Gray Matter
Member
I would say I do have some leverage. I work in manufacturing/production, when I got hired they were down to one person in the department, normally there are three. We currently have the three people we need and my boss is extremely happy with our production. He has said numerous times that we wants me (and the other two guys) to stay put, which tells me that there isn't much room to move upwards.
Like I said, I like my job, but If there is an opportunity for something with better pay I at least have to look into. I'll keep quiet for now and see if I do get an interview.
Don't stress. You should be fine.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
One year and over 1000 applications later since starting my current position and I have not had a single interview. I am even applying to entry level positions so long as they are permanent in my field. I mainly focus on jobs with the city (NYC) or state. I went 3.5 years before this job looking for something closer to my field. It's insanely deflating and sinking feelings are beginning to resurrect that I once had when I was on that job search drought. I hate this.
That sounds really weird. Care to mention the field at hand? And maybe show us your papers?
Congrats dude!
the_standard
Neo Member
Can anyone point me to some good job recomendation sites/test's ? I need help defining some jobs so I can look for them.
Been awhile since I posted an update on my search. The company I was interviewing did a few more phone interviews, then invited me down for an in person interview this past weekend. They gave me an offer today for $50k, which is more than what I was asking for and about $7k more than what I'm making now.
So glad I can finally go back home now
So glad I can finally go back home now
phxxBullet
Banned
Just had an interview on Wednesday last week.
Not a job offer I want to badly work in, but perhaps an o.k. one. Mostly answering hotline phonecalls for 3/4 the normal wage. Better than nothing I guess.
Got told they need 4 employees & they'd call me on Friday.
They didn't till Tuesday this week, in the meantime changing the job ad on their webpage from "30hrs/week" to "25 or 35hrs/week". Asked them about this when they called telling me I'm accepted. Boss told me they already got someone for 35hrs but want me for 30 still. Most likely don't even want me but can't find anyone else, and the training course starts on Monday, which takes 4 weeks.
Will go there tomorrow and tell them I'm in if I get the 25hrs/week position, as thanks to higher tax brackets, it isn't quite worth it to work 30hrs/week.
Plus I'm going back to school in September, so a hour a day extra free time is worth alot, as it could be used for studying or as spare time within my 50hr/week (work+school).
Not a job offer I want to badly work in, but perhaps an o.k. one. Mostly answering hotline phonecalls for 3/4 the normal wage. Better than nothing I guess.
Got told they need 4 employees & they'd call me on Friday.
They didn't till Tuesday this week, in the meantime changing the job ad on their webpage from "30hrs/week" to "25 or 35hrs/week". Asked them about this when they called telling me I'm accepted. Boss told me they already got someone for 35hrs but want me for 30 still. Most likely don't even want me but can't find anyone else, and the training course starts on Monday, which takes 4 weeks.
Will go there tomorrow and tell them I'm in if I get the 25hrs/week position, as thanks to higher tax brackets, it isn't quite worth it to work 30hrs/week.
Plus I'm going back to school in September, so a hour a day extra free time is worth alot, as it could be used for studying or as spare time within my 50hr/week (work+school).
So I'm in a bit off an odd situation, and this seems like the best thread to talk about it. I got forced into a company I'm not interested just as I decided to try and find a new workplace.
So I'm an expat working in a country which language I barely speak (slowly learning).
Long story short, my contract was Company A (their main business is outsourcing developers) but I was working at Company B for over a year (Android development).
I wasn't very happy with company B, and my main interest is game development, so I was considering searching for new jobs for awhile, but I never follow through with it (mostly a mix of lack of strength when getting home after a full day of work and lack of confidence).
Then I learned that I was to go back to Company A in February (I had actually never been there before) whose focus (besides outsourcing developers) was game developing.
So I decided to give this a chance and see how it went.
With that said, while I do enjoy the new environment and they do have work on my area of interest (game development), they require people to speak local language to be integrated in the game development team, so I was once again stuck in Android development.
Yesterday I decided to finally get off my ass and reply to some of the recruiters that had contacted me about game development jobs as soon as I got home, I realised it was about time I actually tried my luck and do what I want to do.
Before I had the chance to, someone at my current company comes to me and tells me "Hey, you have an interview tomorrow, 11:25 am, be there".
I wasn't really given the chance to say no, and I knew nothing about it, turns out it's a research lab of a multinational company, which is technically great for my curriculum but doesn't seem to line up with my interests or skills.
Needless to say, I wasn't particularly interested in this, but my company didn't give me any choice but to go.
Got home and my (job hunting) friend told me he had applied to the gaming company I was considering applying to earlier in the day, which makes me feel guilty if I attempt to apply for it too.
Today I went to the interview to the multinational company, and it was incredibly awkward, the people interviewing me couldn't even formulate the questions they wanted to in English.
At the end I tried to make some questions about the company itself, such as what type of work they do and working hours, basic stuff, but I was meet with silence and confused looks, no answers. The dude from my company (who was in the interview with me) said they'd tell me about it "later".
I left the interview relieved, I didn't make a fool of myself, but the clear communication issues made me pretty confident I managed to fail the interview without looking like an idiot, which is what I wanted.
...Then I'm told that they want me to start working there on the 1st of next month.
No chance at refusal. I really don't appreciate how I had no input on this entire situation and how I was basically "sold" to another company without any say.
It also has no real benefits (outside of perhaps my curriculum), not only do I keep the same pay as now (my main company would be paid for me being "rented" out), it adds a good 15 minutes to my already long commute (currently 65-70 minutes one way).
One of my superiors comes to talk to me to me about it, he then mentions that they had another person that was going to this place before me, but the person resigned to go work on videogames, so the relation between my company and this one is in thin ice, and then jokingly asked me to not resign to go work on games. It was just a weird coincidence, but it really put me in a position where I'd be burning down some serious bridges and screwing my company badly if I decided to leave anytime soon.
Part of me is saying I should just say "screw it" and try to apply to other companies regardless (that's what most people are telling me to do), at the same time the market for people that don't speak the native language of the country is very limited so I'm very iffy about burning bridges.
Apologies for the long post.
So I'm an expat working in a country which language I barely speak (slowly learning).
Long story short, my contract was Company A (their main business is outsourcing developers) but I was working at Company B for over a year (Android development).
I wasn't very happy with company B, and my main interest is game development, so I was considering searching for new jobs for awhile, but I never follow through with it (mostly a mix of lack of strength when getting home after a full day of work and lack of confidence).
Then I learned that I was to go back to Company A in February (I had actually never been there before) whose focus (besides outsourcing developers) was game developing.
So I decided to give this a chance and see how it went.
With that said, while I do enjoy the new environment and they do have work on my area of interest (game development), they require people to speak local language to be integrated in the game development team, so I was once again stuck in Android development.
Yesterday I decided to finally get off my ass and reply to some of the recruiters that had contacted me about game development jobs as soon as I got home, I realised it was about time I actually tried my luck and do what I want to do.
Before I had the chance to, someone at my current company comes to me and tells me "Hey, you have an interview tomorrow, 11:25 am, be there".
I wasn't really given the chance to say no, and I knew nothing about it, turns out it's a research lab of a multinational company, which is technically great for my curriculum but doesn't seem to line up with my interests or skills.
Needless to say, I wasn't particularly interested in this, but my company didn't give me any choice but to go.
Got home and my (job hunting) friend told me he had applied to the gaming company I was considering applying to earlier in the day, which makes me feel guilty if I attempt to apply for it too.
Today I went to the interview to the multinational company, and it was incredibly awkward, the people interviewing me couldn't even formulate the questions they wanted to in English.
At the end I tried to make some questions about the company itself, such as what type of work they do and working hours, basic stuff, but I was meet with silence and confused looks, no answers. The dude from my company (who was in the interview with me) said they'd tell me about it "later".
I left the interview relieved, I didn't make a fool of myself, but the clear communication issues made me pretty confident I managed to fail the interview without looking like an idiot, which is what I wanted.
...Then I'm told that they want me to start working there on the 1st of next month.
No chance at refusal. I really don't appreciate how I had no input on this entire situation and how I was basically "sold" to another company without any say.
It also has no real benefits (outside of perhaps my curriculum), not only do I keep the same pay as now (my main company would be paid for me being "rented" out), it adds a good 15 minutes to my already long commute (currently 65-70 minutes one way).
One of my superiors comes to talk to me to me about it, he then mentions that they had another person that was going to this place before me, but the person resigned to go work on videogames, so the relation between my company and this one is in thin ice, and then jokingly asked me to not resign to go work on games. It was just a weird coincidence, but it really put me in a position where I'd be burning down some serious bridges and screwing my company badly if I decided to leave anytime soon.
Part of me is saying I should just say "screw it" and try to apply to other companies regardless (that's what most people are telling me to do), at the same time the market for people that don't speak the native language of the country is very limited so I'm very iffy about burning bridges.
Apologies for the long post.
anonymous_abc
Member
Do what your company expects you to do, i.e. go work for the new company. Do your best, make the most of the situation, learn, work on your language skills and network all you can.
And just continue applying for something better, there is NO reason to feel bad about it. You are not betraying your current employer there is no reason to think about work like that.
The company relying on contractors knows what it is getting into and that it has no hold over the people that come work for them. They cannot expect to only have the up-sides of not hiring people themselves directly.
To put it bluntly you are mercenary working for a company that sends you to the highest bidder. They obviously only marginally care about your interest and well being.
In work life you have to look after number one first and foremost, namely yourself!
Out of curiosity what country/language are we talking about?
I've gotta' question for y'all. A new science museum is opening here and they've finally put their applications out for the position I've been looking for. This museum is a re-opening of an old museum that I volunteered for two summers ago right before the old museum closed. I contributed over 200 hours and I spent over two months at least 20 hours a week and a year later the director of human resources called me to ask if I was able to work in helping with exhibition development because of some of my volunteering work. I would have loved to accept the offer, but I go to university in a different city entirely, so I had to turn it down.
So now I'm applying for the position, and I feel that I am perfectly qualified so I'm kinda excited (but trying to not get hopes up). I have to write a cover letter- I've never had a formal job before, only internships, and I don't know who to address the cover letter to. Can I send an email to the director of human resources asking her if she can direct me to the hiring manager for the position so that I can write my cover letter? I couldn't find any information on this, so I don't even know if it's the director herself who is looking at these applications? I feel like I'm in good terms with her if she called me a year later for that position, but I don't know if I'd come across as lazy for not knowing the answer myself.
I dunno, help a noob please :C
I don't have a lot of working experience, but you didn't even apply the damn job. D: How does the real world work dbfksdf
So now I'm applying for the position, and I feel that I am perfectly qualified so I'm kinda excited (but trying to not get hopes up). I have to write a cover letter- I've never had a formal job before, only internships, and I don't know who to address the cover letter to. Can I send an email to the director of human resources asking her if she can direct me to the hiring manager for the position so that I can write my cover letter? I couldn't find any information on this, so I don't even know if it's the director herself who is looking at these applications? I feel like I'm in good terms with her if she called me a year later for that position, but I don't know if I'd come across as lazy for not knowing the answer myself.
I dunno, help a noob please :C
I don't have a lot of working experience, but you didn't even apply the damn job. D: How does the real world work dbfksdf
You got hosed but good. They obviously don't give a shit about you at all.
Thanks for the advice, it's good to reinforce the idea that I should be out there and looking rather than being concerned about the negative effects of leaving my company.
I can overthink too much at times. Also be too soft.
Was trying to avoid giving too much info, but might as well, Japan/Japanese.
That's another thing, the current place I'm on has japanese classes, so for the last two weeks I finally had the ability to attend classes (instead of just self study). Moving to the new place means I'll have to go back to rely only in swlf-study.
I need to work in my networking skills, but with so few people at my work capable of speaking English, and hardly any free time to attend meet ups and events, it's been challenging.
I can overthink too much at times. Also be too soft.
Was trying to avoid giving too much info, but might as well, Japan/Japanese.
That's another thing, the current place I'm on has japanese classes, so for the last two weeks I finally had the ability to attend classes (instead of just self study). Moving to the new place means I'll have to go back to rely only in swlf-study.
I need to work in my networking skills, but with so few people at my work capable of speaking English, and hardly any free time to attend meet ups and events, it's been challenging.
I'm still very much learning how the world works, sometimes things just feel completely random and out of how you'd expect them to work.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I've had four or five interviews in the past week. I hope I can get something.
anonymous_abc
Member
Recently I had a job interview where the company had 12 different people individually interview me for about 4 hours. Im not sure if this is the norm but it seems a bit ridiculous for a entry level job that barely requires a degree. After the interview I was completely exhausted.
This is basically a nightmare scenario for me
I had 6 one time. 1-2 people looked bored + didn't want to be there + were about to fall asleep (eyes closed).
12. Geez.
Yeah, I remember being exhausted because of nerves.
Remember to follow up with them by email. Hopefully it works out
I had 5 individual people interview me and took 4.5 hours last week. Sheez!
Roland_Gunner
Member
A start-up had literally every non-engineer in the company sit in on a series of interviews with me. Supposedly to make sure I was a good fit for the culture. They folded a year later. Having that many people do an interview is a huge waste of time and would make me think twice about working there.
Gotta know if the janitor approves, otherwise it's all for naught.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
One I had to turn down and the other two already sent me rejections. I think I have one I can email.