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[entremet]

Worthless? Not really. Especially in the corporate world. You don't have a degree you're not even getting the time of day. Then again once you graduate you still need to get in some where and that's just as tough. The solution if you can help it is to intern somewhere while you're in school. With any luck hopefully that spot offers you a full time offer. That was my situation. Getting out here with no experience and competing with a pool of people who have 4+ years is very hard

I did said many. Not all

For entry level, the dude I was replying to have a better chance that some kid out of college without any experience or just working retail or fast food.

Once you get your first job, your degree doesn't matter much.

 

[Moodz]

GAF I have an interview in a few hours with Asics France for a commercial and merchandising representative position.
I'm planning to go wearing dark jeans and shoes and an untucked shirt, is it too casual for this type of position? A friend of mine said I should at least go tucked, but I don't know...
I don't have a good suit anymore and it's still hot as fuck here anyway...

 

[anonymous_abc]

GAF I have an interview in a few hours with Asics France for a commercial and merchandising representative position.
I'm planning to go wearing dark jeans and shoes and an untucked shirt, is it too casual for this type of position? A friend of mine said I should at least go tucked, but I don't know...
I don't have a good suit anymore and it's still hot as fuck here anyway...

Definitely go tucked!

 

[DiddysKongQuest]

Well, just got the rejection call from the hotel where I did trial work 2 weeks ago. Guess I really wasn't enough of an extrovert for them.

The trial work tomorrow is literally my last shot at an apprenticeship for this year. I'm basically fucked if this won't work out.

 

[Lagunamov]

I've been looking for a job since 2 months ago and all I've got are a few interviews and a shitty job.
-I got a interview in a bank, I passed it and then i rejected it because I thought it wasn't enough moral for me (they asked me to cheat old people).
-I got a shitty job in the university, they paid me 600 euros for working from 14:00 till 1:00 5 days per week. I worked one month there and then I quit.
-I got a interview in a new company, I passed it but they found a student and they contracted him(because they had to pay less to him than to me, he was student).

Now, from july I've been applying in a lot of places every day and they don't call me. They ask 3-4 years experience or to be student to do a convenius, so I dont know what to do, I'm thinking to move to another country (in spain is very hard to get a good job) or study again to get a convenius with a company. I don't know wthat to do yet but I'm sure that the op is right saying that applying for a job is soul crushing .

 

[Moodz]

Definitely go tucked!

Well, tucked it is. Let's go!

 

[DiddysKongQuest]

Well, tucked it is. Let's go!

Good luck, man!

 

[RustyNails]

Gaf how do you give a BS answer to this question: Has your behavior in the past led to misunderstanding? How do you deal with it?

 

[Manoko]

Modern society as a whole is exhausting and soul-crushing.

Unless you happen to have the luck to be born in a wealthy family.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Jesus Christ. I've applied to some jobs at my college campus, just some staff assistant/administrative positions, and since I'm trying to be proactive, I've called two different HR coordinator since Friday to set up an interview, and I just get their voicemail. They dont' seem like they want to talk to anyone. Shit's really annoying.

I ended up emailing them, anyway. Let's see if they respond to that.

EDIT-On the plus side, I have a test invite for tomorrow for a revenue specialist position for the Florida department of Revenue.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

Jesus Christ. I've applied to some jobs at my college campus, just some staff assistant/administrative positions, and since I'm trying to be proactive, I've called two different HR coordinator since Friday to set up an interview, and I just get their voicemail. They dont' seem like they want to talk to anyone. Shit's really annoying.

I ended up emailing them, anyway. Let's see if they respond to that.

Its not like there's someone whose job is to hire for jobs like that. Its probably just their administrator looking over resumes. Walk over with your resume and chat them up. You may get hired on the spot.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I dunno. When I call the HR office, they connect me to whoever is charge of that stuff.

 

[Shy Fingers]

Gaf how do you give a BS answer to this question: Has your behavior in the past led to misunderstanding? How do you deal with it?

Since you are most likely directly communicating with them, they already have some idea of your personality. This means you're going to need a kernel of truth in this one.

My response would be:
"Sometimes I may not be conveying things as concise as I thought I was. While this has lead to confusion in the past, I now ask if they fully understand what I meant, and make it clear I am open to any questions they may have in the future"

Basically, it is kind of like what is your largest weakness type thing. Show a weakness, and what you do to try and avoid it.

 

[BobLoblaw]

Jesus Christ. I've applied to some jobs at my college campus, just some staff assistant/administrative positions, and since I'm trying to be proactive, I've called two different HR coordinator since Friday to set up an interview, and I just get their voicemail. They dont' seem like they want to talk to anyone. Shit's really annoying.

I ended up emailing them, anyway. Let's see if they respond to that.

EDIT-On the plus side, I have a test invite for tomorrow for a revenue specialist position for the Florida department of Revenue.

I'm not 100% sure, but of the HR people I know, they don't particularly like random people calling and asking for jobs (hiring managers either). Most places have a process in place that they want you to follow. The only exceptions would be people who are friends/referrals for current employees. My recommendation is either to follow whatever process they have or have someone refer you. Otherwise, you'll end up on their shit list.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

I dunno. When I call the HR office, they connect me to whoever is charge of that stuff.

I was in your position but I was out off work for 6 years at home with kids. You need to get in front of people, again and again. One of those times you'll fill a need for someone and you'll be hired. It's tough, WAY tougher than when my friends and I got out of college in the late 80's, early 90's.

Edit the advice above is good, I got my current job because the company I work for had a job fair and the position I got was vacated the week before.

 

[Pastry]

I was in your position but I was out off work for 6 years at home with kids. You need to get in front of people, again and again. One of those times you'll fill a need for someone and you'll be hired. It's tough, WAY tougher than when my friends and I got out of college in the late 80's, early 90's.

Edit the advice above is good, I got my current job because the company I work for had a job fair and the position I got was vacated the week before.

Job fairs on college campuses are great ways to get entry level positions assuming you're a student at that school.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I'm not 100% sure, but of the HR people I know, they don't particularly like random people calling and asking for jobs (hiring managers either). Most places have a process in place that they want you to follow. The only exceptions would be people who are friends/referrals for current employees. My recommendation is either to follow whatever process they have or have someone refer you. Otherwise, you'll end up on their shit list.

I know this, and it has a lot of merits, but I dunno. My current retail job, we have people come in asking to speak to a manager and ask if we're hiring. Most of the time, the managers will look into their application, and if they're qualified, have them for an interview.

Maybe it's just a different ball game than what I or you go through.

 

[BobLoblaw]

I know this, and it has a lot of merits, but I dunno. My current retail job, we have people come in asking to speak to a manager and ask if we're hiring. Most of the time, the managers will look into their application, and if they're qualified, have them for an interview.

Maybe it's just a different ball game than what I or you go through.

True. I don't work in retail. I work in corporate America, so your mileage may vary. Still, don't be surprised if they get annoyed and hold it against you if you're leaving them voicemails, showing up in person, and sending them emails. Yes, it shows you're interested, but if there's only one or two people in HR, they WILL remember your name. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is up to them.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

That's true. I'm sure they're trying to deal with hundreds and hundreds of applications, and they can't make special accomodations for everyone.

I was thinking about contacting one of my ex professors (had three classes with him), and telling him how a previous application went. He came into my workplace, I told him my struggles, and he said let him know how things work out for a previous job I applied for.

If I email him and tell him my constant struggles, I'm wondering if he may reach out to someone to help me or something. I dunno.

 

[RustyNails]

Since you are most likely directly communicating with them, they already have some idea of your personality. This means you're going to need a kernel of truth in this one.

My response would be:
"Sometimes I may not be conveying things as concise as I thought I was. While this has lead to confusion in the past, I now ask if they fully understand what I meant, and make it clear I am open to any questions they may have in the future"

Basically, it is kind of like what is your largest weakness type thing. Show a weakness, and what you do to try and avoid it.

Sweet response. Thanks

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Job fairs on college campuses are great ways to get entry level positions assuming you're a student at that school.

I went to job fairs at colleges where I wasn't a student before, made some good connections too. They may have been open to outsiders though, I can't remember

That's true. I'm sure they're trying to deal with hundreds and hundreds of applications, and they can't make special accomodations for everyone.

I was thinking about contacting one of my ex professors (had three classes with him), and telling him how a previous application went. He came into my workplace, I told him my struggles, and he said let him know how things work out for a previous job I applied for.

If I email him and tell him my constant struggles, I'm wondering if he may reach out to someone to help me or something. I dunno.

Yeah you should contact him, don't sound desperate though

 

[Moodz]

Good luck, man!

Thanks!
Interview with Asics hr went quite well I think.
They made me an offer which I think is not really enough for living in Paris. Now I have to give an answer quickly knowing that I'm in the South of France and the position is in Paris and its area. It's such a dilemna since we would have to move and I'm not sure me and the gf can pull this off financially, being broke as fuck... But on the other hand it could be a life changing opportunity.
Why is it never easy?

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Interview on thursday. nervous as hell. time to brush up on stuff.

 

[sonikokaruto]

Good luck to everyone having interviews, everyone here need it.

On a personal note: did like 10 interviews, 5 exams, 3 secondary interviews, 3 psycometric exams, 2 third interviews, 2 programming exercises and havent gotten at least a "sorry we didnt chose you, continue away on something else" or something like that

 

[Quazar]

Just got internship extended for 6 months. So glad to have that burden off my shoulder. Good luck to everyone else. The struggle can be tough. I know.

 

[BobLoblaw]

Good luck to everyone having interviews, everyone here need it.

On a personal note: did like 10 interviews, 5 exams, 3 secondary interviews, 3 psycometric exams, 2 third interviews, 2 programming exercises and havent gotten at least a "sorry we didnt chose you, continue away on something else" or something like that

I applied for over a hundred jobs in the last year (I'm in SoCal, so tech jobs are in abundance). Of those hundred or so, maybe 10% gave me a rejection notice. Some companies just have shit policies in terms of keeping candidates up to date.

 

[Odinson]

I feel lost. I've applied to what feels likes 100's of jobs since January and can't seem to land anything besides rejection emails. I've updated my website, my resume and my portfolio still no bites. I had an interview in June for a great job but haven't heard anything. The interview went well and I got nice compliments on the resume. I did the courtesy email afterwards and called a couple of weeks later but it went to voice mail. My current job isn't horrible but it's not what I want to do for the rest of my life. I've been here for 10 years and I want to start building a career. This isn't the place to do it. I'm really getting into motion graphics and editing and would like to get in on the ground floor somewhere, but so far without the experience this has been a struggle. Just needed to rant and get this off my chest. The search continues...good luck everyone

 

[xKilltheMx]

Jesus Christ. I've applied to some jobs at my college campus, just some staff assistant/administrative positions, and since I'm trying to be proactive, I've called two different HR coordinator since Friday to set up an interview, and I just get their voicemail. They dont' seem like they want to talk to anyone. Shit's really annoying.

I ended up emailing them, anyway. Let's see if they respond to that.

EDIT-On the plus side, I have a test invite for tomorrow for a revenue specialist position for the Florida department of Revenue.

If you get this job (and you're in the tallahassee office) then you'll be like 5 feet away from my office. The internet is scary.

 

[Roland_Gunner]

I applied for over a hundred jobs in the last year (I'm in SoCal, so tech jobs are in abundance). Of those hundred or so, maybe 10% gave me a rejection notice. Some companies just have shit policies in terms of keeping candidates up to date.

It really is just laziness. Any company that isn't just a mon-and-pop shop will have some kind of hiring software. They just need to code in an email to be automatically generated when your application is rejected. BAM, its like two weeks of work one time and then never a problem again.

 

[StoneFox]

Finally have a job after about 6 months of nothing. It's nothing high end but a job's a job.

 

[The Lamonster]

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the hell is this

 

[Gabriel_Logan]

the hell is this

You guys seeing what I'm seeing?

 

[entremet]

Finally have a job after about 6 months of nothing. It's nothing high end but a job's a job.

Yep. It's also easier to upgrade when you have a job.

 

[mugwhump]

the hell is this

Mr. Someoneplsreply

 

[Acinixys]

Working life is hard

Took me 1 + 1/2 years to get hired, and a week after I start 4 of the 7 people in my department leave

1 got deported
2 got fired for theft
1 got fired for being a massive asshole

So the past 5 weeks ive been working 11+ hours a day every day almost

I kinda miss being unemployed atm

 

[ibitegirls]

You guys seeing what I'm seeing?

CSI GAF

Launch investigation now!

 

[Pancakes]

Mr. Someoneplsreply

If you're on good terms then obviously hit him up with a professional message on Linkedin expressing interest in the position and ask for a referral. Then he'll either ask for your resume and stuff or he'll explain the process of getting a referral.

Guys, don't be afraid to talk to your old classmates and co-workers. People usually want to help other people get jobs.

 

[Taco_Human]

I finally heard back from jetblue a few days ago.

I signed my acceptance offer, and emailed it back to them just now.

First full time job, I'm so stoked. Goodbye Walgreens. Thanks for taking me on, but I can't let this one go.

 

[shintoki]

Well, I once again start the embark of applying for jobs as I move to finish school.

I'm leaving two very nice jobs too for jobs that look like they'll pay half of what I'm making now. Positive side is, if I made anymore this year. They'll bump my taxes up

12 Applications down in the first 3 days.

 

[Machina]

I was employed at a place for 8 years part time. I got laid off a month ago. Now I'm adrift at sea with no idea what to do.

 

[Lucifelle]

Had a job interview with a education publisher in central London, hardest interview I've ever had and it was two hours long #

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Had a job interview with a education publisher in central London, hardest interview I've ever had and it was two hours long #

Ugh those are exhausting, having to be on your game the whole time. Clearly they saw something in you though to give up two hours of their day.

Good luck!

 

[Slo]

I feel lost. I've applied to what feels likes 100's of jobs since January and can't seem to land anything besides rejection emails. I've updated my website, my resume and my portfolio still no bites. I had an interview in June for a great job but haven't heard anything. The interview went well and I got nice compliments on the resume. I did the courtesy email afterwards and called a couple of weeks later but it went to voice mail. My current job isn't horrible but it's not what I want to do for the rest of my life. I've been here for 10 years and I want to start building a career. This isn't the place to do it. I'm really getting into motion graphics and editing and would like to get in on the ground floor somewhere, but so far without the experience this has been a struggle. Just needed to rant and get this off my chest. The search continues...good luck everyone

How impressive is the portfolio that you've been sending along with your applications?

 

[Lucifelle]

Ugh those are exhausting, having to be on your game the whole time. Clearly they saw something in you though to give up two hours of their day.

Good luck!

I assure you that they don't see it any more!

 

[Slo]

I was employed at a place for 8 years part time. I got laid off a month ago. Now I'm adrift at sea with no idea what to do.

Well, what are your hoping to do and what have you tried so far?

P.S. Why have you been part time for 8 years?

 

[Captain Tuttle]

I assure you that they don't see it any more!

Nah, if you were terrible it wouldn't have taken them two hours to reach that conclusion

 

[SaskBoy]

On Friday morning I got a voicemail from a place I applied at. I called back that afternoon, but it went to voicemail. I left a message with my name and number, but they haven't called back yet. Should I try calling again?

 

[Lucifelle]

Nah, if you were terrible it wouldn't have taken them two hours to reach that conclusion

Do interviewers cut interviews short? Is that a thing?

 

[FLAguy954]

I finally got an interview for another job that will hopefully replace my current one. I fucking hate my current job by the way: super underpaid for the workload thrown at us, I have to endure all kinds of weather, jack-of-all-trades/master-of-none type of environment, unreliable and unpredictable hours, unreasonably expected to be super efficient when only two people are working on really busy days, etc.

This next job will probably pay a little less and have its own set of stresses (if I get it) but at least I won't have to look forward to freezing my ass off this winter.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Do interviewers cut interviews short? Is that a thing?

I've done it. Not after 5 minutes or something but you generally know if a person will work out after a good few minutes talking to them one on one.

I can't speak for the people who interviewed you though. Two hours is a decent amount of time to spend with someone