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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing

BobLoblaw

Banned
Got an offer today for that IT manager job I interviewed for yesterday and accepted that shit post-haste! GREAT opportunity with an amazing salary and benefits. "I ain't poor no mo'." :) It's been a long road since I've applied for over a hundred positions dating back to a year ago and spent countless hours exhausted and soul-crushed, but it was worth it. For the rest of job-hunting GAF, keep at it and try not to let the job hunt get you down.
 

entremet

Member
Got an offer today for that IT manager job I interviewed for yesterday and accepted that shit post-haste! GREAT opportunity with an amazing salary and benefits. "I ain't poor no mo'." :) It's been a long road since I've applied for over a hundred positions dating back to a year ago and spent countless hours exhausted and soul-crushed, but it was worth it. For the rest of job-hunting GAF, keep at it and try not to let the job hunt get you down.

Congrats!

Were you unemployed for a year or just underemployed?
 

entremet

Member
Speaking of phone interviews what are some good tips? Got one on Monday.

Rule of 3s.

The brain remembers best in 3s.

3 major accomplishments.

3 major strengths.

3 reasons why we should hire you.

3 questions to ask for the interviewers.

Here are some samples:

What constitutes a success at this position?

What have you enjoyed about working here?

What's the next step in this process?

Along with the other excellent advice others have offered.
 

Acrylic7

Member
I did this from scratch and I need some advice. Does it look any good? I added just a bit of color to separate Work Experience, Education, and Skills.

If anyone wants a copy just pm and I will send you the document.

Custom%20Resume%20template%20pic_zpsecugaphs.jpg
 

Pastry

Banned
I did this from scratch and I need some advice. Does it look any good? I added just a bit of color to separate Work Experience, Education, and Skills.

If anyone wants a copy just pm and I will send you the document.

Custom%20Resume%20template%20pic_zpsecugaphs.jpg

This will not work well with the automated systems that HR departments use, like at all. Those images are going to cause some real problems and might lose you interview opportunities. Half the battle is getting through the automated systems but I guess it also depends on the type of companies you apply to.
 

Acrylic7

Member
This will not work well with the automated systems that HR departments use, like at all. Those images are going to cause some real problems and might lose you interview opportunities. Half the battle is getting through the automated systems but I guess it also depends on the type of companies you apply to.

Ah man that sucks.
Welp back to drawing board.
 

BobLoblaw

Banned
Congrats!

Were you unemployed for a year or just underemployed?
Thanks! Underemployed. In SoCal, that's not good, but I managed to keep up with all of my bills. Savings kinda went to shit though. The pay increase will definitely help there.

This will not work well with the automated systems that HR departments use, like at all. Those images are going to cause some real problems and might lose you interview opportunities. Half the battle is getting through the automated systems but I guess it also depends on the type of companies you apply to.
This. Only use that format for physical copies or else an ATS will toss it out.
 

Acrylic7

Member
Ok what about this then? Nothing but text and nothing fancy. I think its very presentable but I don't know what they are looking for in these things.
It seems easy enough to skim through.

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Ok what about this then? Nothing but text and nothing fancy. I think its very presentable but I don't know what they are looking for in these things.
It seems easy enough to skim through.

Capture_zpsbuiwmn3u.jpg
You have to tailor it to each specific job you're applying to. Add words that are in the job description for example. A boilerplate resume won't get you far in my experience
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
This seems like the best place to ask so here goes. I've been working on updating my resume ever since I got laid off and was hoping for some feedback. I'm gonna to my Uni's career center and get 2nd opinions on Monday but I figure some more eyes couldn't hurt.

This would be for trying to get an entry level engineering job. I would edit the skills section depending on job description and requirements.

 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
Ok what about this then? Nothing but text and nothing fancy. I think its very presentable but I don't know what they are looking for in these things.
It seems easy enough to skim through.

Capture_zpsbuiwmn3u.jpg

I find the resume too "playful" and not in a good way. Maybe it is because I am old school. I work in the artistic industry of film visual effects and I am not sure our HR could take that resume seriously.
 

BobLoblaw

Banned
I find the resume too "playful" and not in a good way. Maybe it is because I am old school. I work in the artistic industry of film visual effects and I am not sure our HR could take that resume seriously.
I kinda agree. That work experience covers 15 years and if having a few simple words to describe each is the best that you can do, then good luck. I'd update it to be a bit more detailed. If you include more words, then that allows you to add key words from the job that you're applying for.

Trying to squeeze everything on one page is a bad idea. Forget what people say about a one page resume. Go for two and include more accomplishments. It's not like an ATS will reject it because it's more than one page. Also (and this i just me), I'd change some of those titles. "Kart Pusher?" Nope. Customer Service Associate.
 

Acrylic7

Member
I kinda agree. That work experience covers 15 years and if having a few simple words to describe each is the best that you can do, then good luck. I'd update it to be a bit more detailed. If you include more words, then that allows you to add key words from the job that you're applying for.

Trying to squeeze everything on one page is a bad idea. Forget what people say about a one page resume. Go for two and include more accomplishments. It's not like an ATS will reject it because it's more than one page. Also (and this i just me), I'd change some of those titles. "Kart Pusher?" Nope. Customer Service Associate.

Iv not worked for 15 years I'm young. This the resume I posted is just example text. I don't necessarily have accomplishments that warrant a description.

All the research that Iv done suggests that company's only skim through resumes and if its 2 pages, or has body's of text that takes them longer to read then they just go to the next one.
People say list more things while the other half say list fewer things -_-

I could take the color out of the dividers and just make them grey to make it look more professional I guess.
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
Welp, I guess I'll need to be part of this thread asap.

Gotta move onto to a different field.

Current job site is cutting positions..
 
Monster, careerbuilder and others get crapped on for some reason or another. I honestly have no clue. This application was done directly through the website.

Also, thanks and good luck to you as well.
Thanks, second interview went well, next is with the owner. The company seems to like me but he's the only one who counts haha
 

BobLoblaw

Banned
Iv not worked for 15 years I'm young. This the resume I posted is just example text. I don't necessarily have accomplishments that warrant a description.

All the research that Iv done suggests that company's only skim through resumes and if its 2 pages, or has body's of text that takes them longer to read then they just go to the next one.
People say list more things while the other half say list fewer things -_-

I could take the color out of the dividers and just make them grey to make it look more professional I guess.
That makes more sense. :) Companies only "skim" resumes if they make it through an applicant tracking system, so if you apply online, it can be longer than one page (two max imo). Make sure you include keywords from the job description that you're applying for. Basically, use the same phrases that they do (assuming you actually have the skills/traits they're looking for). If you're not applying online but in a store, then this format should work just fine.
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
Iv not worked for 15 years I'm young. This the resume I posted is just example text. I don't necessarily have accomplishments that warrant a description.

All the research that Iv done suggests that company's only skim through resumes and if its 2 pages, or has body's of text that takes them longer to read then they just go to the next one.
People say list more things while the other half say list fewer things -_-

I could take the color out of the dividers and just make them grey to make it look more professional I guess.

Please do :) Sorry if I sounded harsh. I just wasn't sure what's going on with those text you've put onto your WIP resume. Keep it clean and professional looking. One page is fine in my mind because I also happen to agree that HR only look at the first page of every resume... Change the "+" sign to a standard dot too. Those are not really things that is going to help your resume stand out, in my mind.
 

Mexen

Member
Last week I got called for a job at a mine as an IT technician. I was out of town but I travelled as soon as possible and got my medicals done.

However, my contact was so full of shit that in the end I concluded there was no job.

We arranged for him to pick me up but he never showed, giving lame excuses as to why. He even accused me of sending him a stinker calling him out on a scam but late apologised saying it was a forwarded message from his superior with whom I share a name with.

We then arranged to meet the next day but alas it was all bullshit. He made me wait again without responding to my calls or texts.

I still don't know what the hell happened but I've been low since then. I have a semester left before graduation and so I just wanna focus my energy on school.

fsociety.dat
 

Nightbird

Member
After two months I got sick of not being in employment or education, so I really want to do this.
So, I'm getting ready to throw out some of applications during the next Week in the hope of finding something.

Any Tipps on stuff I should care for?
 

Apt101

Member
I'm sending this out to Starbucks, Nordstrom, and a couple other mid-tier retailers. Ideally, I'd like to get an IT gig to tie in with my major, but I don't know how realistic that is with my current work experience. I'd greatly appreciate any feedback and insight any of you might have.

I see no reason you couldn't find a desktop support or helpdesk job with those credentials. Two years of college for IT is more than a lot of people have when they get entry-level IT positions. Depending upon how likeable you are in interviews and how trainable a manager might feel you are, I'd even hire someone with those creds for an admin job if I was given six months to train them up.
 

brerwolfe

Member
After two months I got sick of not being in employment or education, so I really want to do this.
So, I'm getting ready to throw out some of applications during the next Week in the hope of finding something.

Any Tipps on stuff I should care for?
There are currently 68 pages of tips and stuff you should care for. Get to reading!
 

Ultimadrago

Member
I completely empathize with your frustration. It's pretty rough and unfair out there in the job market these days. However, don't take this personally, but did you know in college and leaving college that a communications degree is one of the most run-of-the-mill and unimpressive degrees to any hiring team? It's a major many people change into when they want an "easier" major in college. The degree alone doesn't prove you have any sort of exclusive or high-value skills or exceptional work ethic; not only is it generally one of the easiest college curricula out there, hiring teams are going to easily identify the communication skills they want for their company through the interview process, and most competitive job-seekers already have effective communication skills. I wish college advisors were honest with communications majors about this reality, but they're not because they need students to stay enrolled (so they tell them things like "this major is really diverse! You can do anything with it!" - uh huh)

I'm not saying you don't HAVE great, employable skills. Clearly from your post, you DO. Like work ethic and perseverance. The problem is that with little experience and your degree, no one has any reason to choose you over the competition in some of these instances for entry-level jobs.

Wow, you sure showed him not to STEM.
 
Interview in a few days, researching the company etc.

Fucking shitting it. :(

Get over it! Spend some time talking out loud about things you're sure will come up in the interview. Confidence is key! You've got an interview, that means they already like you, so just go be you.
 
Shitting it= nervous, etc

With a fairly top company, afraid I'll fluff it up, usual pre-interview nerves!
Remember it's a conversation not an interrogation. You're trying to find out about them as well, the culture, opportunities for advancement etc. Have some good questions to ask, after the interview you may decide that this position isn't for you.
 

Acrylic7

Member
Too scared to link my LinkedIn page to any website that asks because of the resume situation. And especially if you want to try and get a job in a unrelated field.

I'm starting to realize that I have to write a custom resume for every place I try and apply for.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 

Quazar

Member
I'm starting to fill out for jobs that want a BS even though I don't graduate until May. I have 6 months intern experience in Big Data reporting/scrum master/ PM experience. I should be fine when they ask for a combo of the education and experience right?
 

entremet

Member
I'm starting to fill out for jobs that want a BS even though I don't graduate until May. I have 6 months intern experience in Big Data reporting/scrum master/ PM experience. I should be fine when they ask for a combo of the education and experience right?

Yes. Many college degrees are basically worthless anyway. Experience should give you a nice edge.
 
Well, the first one is done. Phew, that was tiring.

Just completed the 4-stage interview over the past 2 weeks, being interviewed 4 different times. I think I flubbed the 3rd one, but apparently I did okay enough to get through to the last interview, which will still be assessed on both the 3rd/4th, so well... we'll see.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Too scared to link my LinkedIn page to any website that asks because of the resume situation. And especially if you want to try and get a job in a unrelated field.

I'm starting to realize that I have to write a custom resume for every place I try and apply for.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

What? No you don't.

What jobs are you looking for?
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
I've been trying to find a good job lately. I failed nursing school clinical and they thought I didn't have the clinical skills even though I passed the lecture courses. That doesn't help the nurse, so that was May of this year. I learned that I failed in something I went to school for 6 years. All I had in the meantime were jobs in security, sales, and food. I'm pretty pissed off at a few things that are out of my control, but that doesn't mean I can't forget about it. I have moved on. I no longer want to work in healthcare, but an IT job wouldn't be bad.

I got a dismissal letter in the mail a month or two ago, it said I cannot reapply and it said I should rethink my career choices. I went to UNMC here in Nebraska. I am done with healthcare. All my courses went to the state school, so I can graduate with a General Studies degree. Not a wonderful degree, but it's still something I can show for all the work I've done.

I got a few jobs from Careerlink and Indeed. I had an offer to become a visitation worker and later social worker. They were going to promote me, but I'm a guy who decided he didn't want to do that. I even had some people help me decide it wasn't the right job. I know people who hate it, they hate the pay, the emotional stress, and having to use their own car. I got countless offers from Life Insurance agencies, which is like anybody's job. New York New York, Aflac, you name it. I turned down another job for the neighbor state which dealt with social work. I just had an interview for TruGreen Chemlawn as a driver, but I need experience in a field that I can move up. Lawn service is something you start out in and it can't pay my bills once I graduate in December.

You see I have this second interview here at 09:30 AM and it's 03:44 AM. I'd be hired to do lawn work, driving their car, and I have to make over $300 a week in sales on merch because it's mandatory. Now I've sold magazines, steaks, video games, and sporting goods. I know I can sell it, but I know noone who wants to spend $300 on lawn services by myself.

I have years of work in computer classes with an IT degree and a load of science/medical. Making $12-$13 an hour isn't going to cut it. I've been applying left and right. I had an interview at a computer company which does tech support as an intern. I sat there talking to him about building my own PC, Razor gaming chair and mouse in the room, real rich place inside a bank, and he wants someone to do P2P tech support. I didn't have enough experience and I get the whole reapply and that I'm impressive. Now, I'm not that informed on the PC programs businesses use and how could I unless I worked the job.

I laugh off some POS PC program a database or computer company uses and I get it thrown back in my face. I'm sorry my attitude sucks, but I find knowing how some trucking company manages Windows like an anti-gamer personnel a bit distasteful and bit full of BS. I know what respect is and I do respect a company, but I don't need to believe the sky is falling.

I'm thinking about not taking this lawn job and calling a head hunter. I feel like people are looking out for my best interest, but I'm not a used car salesmen. I'm not a manager with sweat down his shirt because I want to wrestle with the next guy coming in the store. I know I wasted some good time with pointless jobs and it's coming down to D day. I'm doing okay, just on edge a bit.

My family is weird about things. They assume I bring up video games inside of meetings because I worked for GameStop. I'm a professional person. I'm also incredibly aware. I know how to act and I feel like ripping my head off some days because my family is on my back.
 

Quazar

Member
I've been trying to find a good job lately. I failed nursing school clinical and they thought I didn't have the clinical skills even though I passed the lecture courses. That doesn't help the nurse, so that was May of this year. I learned that I failed in something I went to school for 6 years. All I had in the meantime were jobs in security, sales, and food. I'm pretty pissed off at a few things that are out of my control, but that doesn't mean I can't forget about it. I have moved on. I no longer want to work in healthcare, but an IT job wouldn't be bad.

I got a dismissal letter in the mail a month or two ago, it said I cannot reapply and it said I should rethink my career choices. I went to UNMC here in Nebraska. I am done with healthcare. All my courses went to the state school, so I can graduate with a General Studies degree. Not a wonderful degree, but it's still something I can show for all the work I've done.

I got a few jobs from Careerlink and Indeed. I had an offer to become a visitation worker and later social worker. They were going to promote me, but I'm a guy who decided he didn't want to do that. I even had some people help me decide it wasn't the right job. I know people who hate it, they hate the pay, the emotional stress, and having to use their own car. I got countless offers from Life Insurance agencies, which is like anybody's job. New York New York, Aflac, you name it. I turned down another job for the neighbor state which dealt with social work. I just had an interview for TruGreen Chemlawn as a driver, but I need experience in a field that I can move up. Lawn service is something you start out in and it can't pay my bills once I graduate in December.

You see I have this second interview here at 09:30 AM and it's 03:44 AM. I'd be hired to do lawn work, driving their car, and I have to make over $300 a week in sales on merch because it's mandatory. Now I've sold magazines, steaks, video games, and sporting goods. I know I can sell it, but I know noone who wants to spend $300 on lawn services by myself.

I have years of work in computer classes with an IT degree and a load of science/medical. Making $12-$13 an hour isn't going to cut it. I've been applying left and right. I had an interview at a computer company which does tech support as an intern. I sat there talking to him about building my own PC, Razor gaming chair and mouse in the room, real rich place inside a bank, and he wants someone to do P2P tech support. I didn't have enough experience and I get the whole reapply and that I'm impressive. Now, I'm not that informed on the PC programs businesses use and how could I unless I worked the job.

I laugh off some POS PC program a database or computer company uses and I get it thrown back in my face. I'm sorry my attitude sucks, but I find knowing how some trucking company manages Windows like an anti-gamer personnel a bit distasteful and bit full of BS. I know what respect is and I do respect a company, but I don't need to believe the sky is falling.

I'm thinking about not taking this lawn job and calling a head hunter. I feel like people are looking out for my best interest, but I'm not a used car salesmen. I'm not a manager with sweat down his shirt because I want to wrestle with the next guy coming in the store. I know I wasted some good time with pointless jobs and it's coming down to D day. I'm doing okay, just on edge a bit.

My family is weird about things. They assume I bring up video games inside of meetings because I worked for GameStop. I'm a professional person. I'm also incredibly aware. I know how to act and I feel like ripping my head off some days because my family is on my back.

Did you take any informatics classes? Project management/system analyst/database (SQL)? I have a internship now making 20/hr.

At the very least you should be good in requirements gathering. Which your healthcare would be fine for any type of business analysis position in healthcare. Companies like McKesson/Cerner/Athena Health/Epic might be a good fit. Any quality/analytics position within clinical setting as well.
 

red731

Member
Will be in this battleground of searching for new job after shaking life big time (rented flat, moving with girlfriend, new city).
Job I have now was awesome and I am, soon was here for 5 years.

Finaly bursting that safe zone bubble aka stuck in the rut!
 
Ok what about this then? Nothing but text and nothing fancy. I think its very presentable but I don't know what they are looking for in these things.
It seems easy enough to skim through.

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I've read that putting dates before your job title will cause some automated systems to mess up your info. You want to put the most relevant info first.
 

mhayes86

Member
I have years of work in computer classes with an IT degree and a load of science/medical.

Have you thought about Health IT? Quite a few hospitals I've applied to over the years typically require a HS diploma or an Associate's Degree. At the bare minimum, you could start off in a help desk position, or jump into a SysAdmin position. What are some of your IT skills/experiences other than building a PC, and what classes have you taken?
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
Did you take any informatics classes? Project management/system analyst/database (SQL)? I have a internship now making 20/hr.

At the very least you should be good in requirements gathering. Which your healthcare would be fine for any type of business analysis position in healthcare. Companies like McKesson/Cerner/Athena Health/Epic might be a good fit. Any quality/analytics position within clinical setting as well.

My computer courses were from ITT, so we're talking basic HTML with Dreamweaver, various art programs, and not any SQL. It's been since 2008 and ITT didn't teach me anything really. I'm going to look into these companies. Thank you. I need to learn a little more. I saw there was Masters degree in infomatics, which I keep getting told to apply for. I know how to use Office and Outlook just fine. I just hate adding more debt for a Masters. I've been in school for my entire 20's now.

Have you thought about Health IT? Quite a few hospitals I've applied to over the years typically require a HS diploma or an Associate's Degree. At the bare minimum, you could start off in a help desk position, or jump into a SysAdmin position. What are some of your IT skills/experiences other than building a PC, and what classes have you taken?

I took a lot of art courses and visual basic at ITT. I've basically been able to Troubleshoot my computer and install software/hardware. I don't remember a lot of the animation stuff or programming stuff. With a little help I can do most basic things in Windows. I've used Windows since Win 95.

My degree is in Information Technology - Multimedia an applied associates degree. I'm very universal at the moment. The only thing the college said this last month was that I could do anything, but I need to sell myself. I'm not that grounded. I will look into this. I go back for 3 courses in the fall, but they're in writing, sports, and organization. The college needs 3 classes from their school because they can only accept so many outside courses and these 3 are in their requirements. I have to work around that till December.

Adobe, Office, 3DS MAX, Flash 2004, and ITT used old programs. It was something I have to accept. I took a lot of portfolio courses, but those don't help. Then I took a few intro to PC's and Visual Basic, which I don't know how to make my own program.

The thing about being told I could do anything, is that I don't know what my anything is or where to begin. I feel like I could go anywhere and do anything, which feels lazy and hard all at the same time.
 

Agent Icebeezy

Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
Did you take any informatics classes? Project management/system analyst/database (SQL)? I have a internship now making 20/hr.

At the very least you should be good in requirements gathering. Which your healthcare would be fine for any type of business analysis position in healthcare. Companies like McKesson/Cerner/Athena Health/Epic might be a good fit. Any quality/analytics position within clinical setting as well.

To build on top of this. Excel and SQL knowledge will take you far. Create samples of your work. I'm going to my interview Friday and since LinkedIn doesn't allow for Excel files to be uploaded, I'm going to take a DVD with me with some recent work, names changed of course. Also some sports statistics stuff based on 2014 nfl and nba to show that this spreadsheet wasn't lying around for years somewhere. Im a senior contract analyst at a Chicagoland hospital so I live in excel but still, I can talk till I'm blue in the face, I'm going to show my interviewer I know what I say I know.
 

Nekofrog

Banned
You guys have looked at your local county websites for positions in the county government, right? I'm currently doing IT for my county and even at the lowest position (helpdesk/operator) I'm making $20 an hour, full benefits, all the good stuff.

It's a seriously overlooked job market, because they usually only put their postings up on their websites.
 

Smokey

Member
Yes. Many college degrees are basically worthless anyway. Experience should give you a nice edge.

Worthless? Not really. Especially in the corporate world. You don't have a degree you're not even getting the time of day. Then again once you graduate you still need to get in some where and that's just as tough. The solution if you can help it is to intern somewhere while you're in school. With any luck hopefully that spot offers you a full time offer. That was my situation. Getting out here with no experience and competing with a pool of people who have 4+ years is very hard :(
 
Got asked for an interview at a dev company that is in probably the most perfect location. Gave some dates so I'm hoping to hear back soon about when specifically it is and hoping I don't fuck it up and that it pays well.
 
You guys have looked at your local county websites for positions in the county government, right? I'm currently doing IT for my county and even at the lowest position (helpdesk/operator) I'm making $20 an hour, full benefits, all the good stuff.

It's a seriously overlooked job market, because they usually only put their postings up on their websites.

yes, 3 clerk typist positions opened up, 2000+ applicants
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
You guys have looked at your local county websites for positions in the county government, right? I'm currently doing IT for my county and even at the lowest position (helpdesk/operator) I'm making $20 an hour, full benefits, all the good stuff.

It's a seriously overlooked job market, because they usually only put their postings up on their websites.

All senior engineering jobs requiring 5+ years of professional experience T_T
 

mugwhump

Member
How should I go about applying at the place where I worked for 4 months as a co-op in 2012? Specifically, should I message my old supervisor on Linkedin? I talked to him last christmas but there hasn't been any communication other than that.

Should I email my applications the regular way, or apply through him, or what?

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