That depends on the role. In the Star Wars game someone won and just left the game, which went on without him.
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Archer [Mafia] |OT| Wait, I Had Something For This
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That depends on the role. In the Star Wars game someone won and just left the game, which went on without him.
I'm just starting the game selfishly. The claims might keep me alive, true or not. Whether me being alive is beneficial to town or not is debatable. Another counterpoint is that I've previously been a lightning rod for ability use and I would prefer to avoid that for once. I feel like town is more likely to get burned than Mafia are. This is also something I would say if I were Mafia.
The reality is everybody should probably be claiming Ordinary Drone. I would say not to even hint at a power role, but this is me, and I've dropped major hints about my role in the two previous games on Day1, so YMMV.
It was something like 6-5 for vis, and I really didn't want a tie. I would rather voted for tiger, but that would just increase the chance for a tie, so I decided to avoid risk and make sure there wasn't a tie by voting for the one currently in the lead.
Really
Are you sure
I don't believe it
No way!
Don't lie to me
Oh yeah, bring it
Come at me bro
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
Thoughts on the HP:
1) Everyone (myself included) seems to be assuming that the HP knows that their power is to kill Archer, which may not have been the case. Their role could have just said something like "you have the power to seduce victims" but not mentioned that their role was the only one that could kill Archer. Right? I don't know if this would be helpful knowledge if it were true since Archer's existence and the conditions of his role have been made public, but I figured I'd share it.
2) On the question of why the HP doesn't make all the mafia's kills, Palmer's points about the possibility of a Watcher or Tracker targeting the HP makes sense, but I also thought about something else. A "honeypot" (not in game, in "real life" or whatever) seduces their target. So, they actually interact with their target while a normal killer does not. Therefore, it could also be the case that whoever the honeypot targets becomes aware of their identity, and therefore if their targeting were blocked then their target would know who they are. Again, just a thought, pure conjecture, I don't even know if it would be helpful knowledge if it were true but it occurred to me so I figured I'd share it.
1) Everyone (myself included) seems to be assuming that the HP knows that their power is to kill Archer, which may not have been the case. Their role could have just said something like "you have the power to seduce victims" but not mentioned that their role was the only one that could kill Archer. Right? I don't know if this would be helpful knowledge if it were true since Archer's existence and the conditions of his role have been made public, but I figured I'd share it.
2) On the question of why the HP doesn't make all the mafia's kills, Palmer's points about the possibility of a Watcher or Tracker targeting the HP makes sense, but I also thought about something else. A "honeypot" (not in game, in "real life" or whatever) seduces their target. So, they actually interact with their target while a normal killer does not. Therefore, it could also be the case that whoever the honeypot targets becomes aware of their identity, and therefore if their targeting were blocked then their target would know who they are. Again, just a thought, pure conjecture, I don't even know if it would be helpful knowledge if it were true but it occurred to me so I figured I'd share it.
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
FAKE EDIT: ^^^ those two points kind of tie together (ie the HP's role description could have made them aware that their identity would be revealed in the event of an unsuccessful target, which would help explain why the HP doesn't make all of the mafia's kills)
Third party wins, but the game continues, even if they die they still won their game. They can tell knock knock jokes for the rest of the game for all it matters (please don't tell knock knock jokes all game after you win)
Eh...this post from cooljeanius is putting too much behind squidyj lynching the doctor. The last point is also worrying, makes me think he's not mafia but that attitude isn't the greatest sign of being helpful to town.
Good points.
1) It's possible it was generalised, but unless there's another thorn in the rose, I don't think that would stop Mafia from using HP unless they were that worried about a tracker.
2) This is also interesting, but I don't think it's worth thinking about unless anything else comes up which, let's be honest, will most likely be on the HP's death bed with a role PM.
I think it's between caution on the Mafia's end with regards to using the HP, or there's some sort of limit on the HP's ability (limited use?).
Either way I'm trying to not think it was a simple mistake like I did this morning.
It's also entirely possible that mafia has another role with special night kills that they want to take advantage of. Even if they know archer is out there they don't really want to go hunting for archer, what can he do? They want to get rid of power roles that can actually impact their ability to win the game, investigative roles etc. If there's another role they have that makes this safer or more effective then they might decide to use that role to make kills and risk the chance of hitting archer by accident.
Well, how would such a role look like?
What do you mean by "weak?" The only thing I've noticed about Septimus is that he seems to have become inactive. I honestly would've forgotten about him if you didn't keep claiming that he, Palmer, and I were in the KGB.
Ah, makes sense, would be super risky to have the possibility that a 20+ person game group would have to wait months because their game ended incredibly soon.
Also (and I am preemptively super sorry about this):
knock, knock
Who's there?
Nod
Nod who?
Nod thing to worry about because I am not a neutral role.
Again, I am VERY sorry about this.
I told you guys to lynch him. I told you all we should lynch him. Now he's starting to make Knock-Knock jokes.
Completely random role idea from my ass: Billy the body booby trapper. He doesn't only kill his target, but if anybody else does a night action targeted at that person, they also die.
Alright, I see. I mostly disagree with some of your claims (for instance I think best towny thing to do is not to claim absolutely anything at this point at least directly), so I will keep watching you, but at the same time I kind of understand some of your points too.
No worries. I appreciate the opportunity to explain myself.
Septimus Prime
Member
I'm at work.
I did post earlier that I think Ezekel's reveal makes sense right now, though, since if the KGB did try to assassinate him and failed, with the Doctor already out of play, they should immediately know that he is being protected by some power. Personally, I would have waited a tad longer to see if they would try pushing for a lynch, too, at which time it becomes pretty obvious who they are. Nonetheless, it's too late for that now, though.
I am also suspicious of squidyj, which is why I voted for him. I have a few other suspicions about other players, but these are just gut feelings, which I will keep to myself for now, since I don't want to influence voting on just a bit of information. I also want to try to get one person out at a time, so I don't want to diffuse interest in my suspects for anyone who does value my opinion.
this post is kind of suspicious, I mentioned Palmer once and then clarified what I was talking about for Hobohodo. Then I suggested you were mafia and didn't really mention septimus until now.
Now you want to push the narrative that I've been repeatedly claiming that you palmer and septimus are all mafia together.
Your arguments against my reads as well have been.... bizarre, you criticized them for being made up flavour (whatever that means) when other people have been generally convinced.
At the same time your suspicion of me didn't stop you from helping me advance my agenda with respect to VisualAnte
I don't think I'm okay with you playing things so close to the vest, I want to see that you're paying attention to the game and generating reads on more than one player at a time.
Iwillneverdothatagainweposttoomuch said:
A list, potentially erroneous since done by hand, of posts since the night ended. I excluded the posts of miserable sea creatures, lewd bears and our boss. Keep in mind that some people have a job or might live in a different time zone. Nonetheless I hope that information will be helpful.
I'm curious el topo: what did you think about seaths little squid trap?
Also, welcome awesomepossum! I hope you are indeed awesome! (And indeed a possum, possums are cool as shit).
Eh, could you be so kind to point me to the post please? I just counted all that stuff, don't really want to look for a post. Either way, I am convinced Seath is neutral, even if I don't know whether to believe his actual role.
I'm keeping my vote on you for now, because keeping information to yourself is dodgy behaviour.
Post #1339, where he admits his role claim was a lie to see how squid would react.
Interesting. I'm convinced he is neutral though, due to a small mistake (or rather slip of tongue) in one of his posts. That said, for all we know he might be a serial killer. If we have a doctor, similar to the very first Gafia game, we might also have another Karkador.
Welcome AwesomePossum.
Just for psa, I might not be able to use my laptop for tomorrow, so I'll have to post using mobile which is a drag for multi-quoting. I might not be able to post as long posts as I would want to tomorrow.
I would hope that more silent people would come and give us their insights about stuff that has been happening today. For instance Enker hasn't posyed anything after Seath and his sheaningans happened, and even his notes about Ezekiel were kind of short.
Just for psa, I might not be able to use my laptop for tomorrow, so I'll have to post using mobile which is a drag for multi-quoting. I might not be able to post as long posts as I would want to tomorrow.
I would hope that more silent people would come and give us their insights about stuff that has been happening today. For instance Enker hasn't posyed anything after Seath and his sheaningans happened, and even his notes about Ezekiel were kind of short.
TheAwesomePossum
Banned
Hey guys, I'm Razmos' replacement! Let's have a bit of fun and find who are the KGB scum shall we?
Septimus Prime
Member
That's fair, and I will share when I have some evidence. Right now, I have nothing other than some feelings, which are subject to change.
Welcome to the game. I hope you'll live long and have fun.
QuantumBro
Banned
Just got caught up, I'll post my thoughts in a few hours when I get off work.
I think I found my new username.
I think I found my new username.
Would you mind showing me that post?
I might just be reading too much into it, but I found his choice of words when he revealed himself interesting.
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
why didn't I think to ask this?
Pro strats squidy, pro strats
What I said:
What you read (emphasis mine)
It's going to be awfully hard to have discussions if anything speculative I say is cause for concern. Especially when I'm outlining multiple possibilities which may or may not be mutually exclusive.
What you read (emphasis mine)
It's going to be awfully hard to have discussions if anything speculative I say is cause for concern. Especially when I'm outlining multiple possibilities which may or may not be mutually exclusive.
LOL
The only problem with everyone claiming drone is it's essentially the same as nobody claiming which ultimately just throws us back to square one. Unless there's cause the best policy is just to keep a lid on your role, regular, power, or other.
I welcome your scrutiny sir, though I admit to being a bit surprised by it. Did we possibly miscommunicate earlier? Hopefully we can sort this out.