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Once cures are found all the pharmaceutical companies will lose billions of dollars .
Dead customers are no longer paying customers.Once cures are found all the pharmaceutical companies will lose billions of dollars .
Companies spend billions on new cancer treatments. The idea that they'd lose money if they had a cure is fucking ludicrous. They'd never go out of business.Once cures are found all the pharmaceutical companies will lose billions of dollars .
Yeah radiation is bad. It is horrible. I had radiation after my cancer was out. I had it for about 2 months. Than I had it after my second cancer. Radiation just made the tumor grow even faster! So radiation is horribly bad, never ever get it! Radiation is natural from the Sun for a reason, it kills you. Radiation does nothing other than make cellular matter of our body cells duplicate and thus makes cancer.It's not like finding a cure for one type of cancer means every type of cancer in the world gets cured at the same time with the same bottle of pills.
Every person reacts different to medication too. So there wont be a one size fits all solution. Even something as common as blood pressure pills have different strengths for different people. In order for it to work, it has to be powerful enough for your situation. And docs dont want to overboard prescribing the max dosage for every person right away.
Some people with cancer or do chemo or whatever and suddenly they are cancer free. Another person does the same thing and it does nothing and they spiral to stage 4. Some things work, some dont.
Its one of those things like I mentioned I guess works for some and not for others.Yeah radiation is bad. It is horrible. I had radiation after my cancer was out. I had it for about 2 months. Than I had it after my second cancer. Radiation just made the tumor grow even faster! So radiation is horribly bad, never ever get it! Radiation is natural from the Sun for a reason, it kills you. Radiation does nothing other than make cellular matter of our body cells duplicate and thus makes cancer.
Pretty much. I mean do people really not get the the prognosis for say Thyroid cancer is generally WAY better than the prognosis for pancreatic cancer? (Yeah, the cancer you get when your thyroid cells messes up is usually no where near as bad as when one of your pancreatic cells starts dividing uncontrollably.)Companies spend billions on new cancer treatments. The idea that they'd lose money if they had a cure is fucking ludicrous. They'd never go out of business.
The reason there's no "cure for cancer" is cancer is a diverse group of diseases, and you can't really just tell some mutated cells to stop replicating.
There are cures already, it's called chemo and radiotherapy. The problem with cancer is how often it is diagnosed at a later stage when curing it is much more difficult / impossible.Once cures are found all the pharmaceutical companies will lose billions of dollars .
There are cures already, it's called chemo and radiotherapy. The problem with cancer is how often it is diagnosed at a later stage when curing it is much more difficult / impossible.
Did we already have this argument or did I argue semantics with someone else on the same subject?That isn't a cure. That is a treatment. Cures != Treatments and Treatments != Cures.
No problem Ill just put it on my credit card.You're acting as though pharma companies wouldn't just charge $10m a dose for one shot cancer cures. Even then, you can still medicate for side effects etc.
Did we already have this argument or did I argue semantics with someone else on the same subject?
Yes, not every treatment is a cure e.g. hospice care. However chemotherapy is - you have cancer, you get treated, you don't have it. Simple as that. No need to linguistic exercises.
Once cures are found all the pharmaceutical companies will lose billions of dollars .
Cancer is the mechanism where your cells continue to replicate en masse. There will never *be* a cure. There will be treatments to prevent cancers or even stop them at times, but live long enough you will eventually have a cell that becomes cancerous. It is just a form of natural selection built into our bodies. It ensures that we continue to evolve.
That's not the main or only reason mind. If it was just big evil pharma, where's the socialist country with the cure for cancer. And having lots of family and friends that are researchers or doctors also with family members with cancer, how would the scam work, someone would raise hell and speak out if it was actually curable.
Cancer is really a collection of hundreds or more things that can go wrong, hence why some actually are extremely treatable now where some are very challenging. I wish there was some cure, my mom has glioblastoma, which is just an extra assholeish version with multiple types going on so a hard single thing to target. They're also cells from your own body, so they have ways to evade immune cell deletion.
I have high hopes for mRNA vaccines, though that's going to be late for us. Ironic that something as bad as covid may give us one of our best tools against it in the future.
Plus the fact since cancers are a rapidly reproducing cells they evolve which means they often develop resistance to treatments.There are cures already, it's called chemo and radiotherapy. The problem with cancer is how often it is diagnosed at a later stage when curing it is much more difficult / impossible.
A cure is just a very effective treatment.Chemotherapy is not a cure. It is a treatment. It can put someone into remission, but not always. Again, you need to learn the differences between treatments and cures.
This is the same narrative you were pushing in the Sam Neill cancer thread lol. And when I called you out on it, you made it out as though cancer was already curable and that we have bigger fish to fry.There are cures already, it's called chemo and radiotherapy. The problem with cancer is how often it is diagnosed at a later stage when curing it is much more difficult / impossible.
Chemo is about poisoning your body and hoping the cancer dies before you do.Did we already have this argument or did I argue semantics with someone else on the same subject?
Yes, not every treatment is a cure e.g. hospice care. However chemotherapy is - you have cancer, you get treated, you don't have it. Simple as that. No need to linguistic exercises.
Well, yes it is. But it is also a highly successful one if there are not many cancer cells present yet.Chemo is about poisoning your body and hoping the cancer dies before you do.
It's a barbaric practice that will hopefully end this century.
Gliobastoma was my first cancer I ever got. It was consuming almost all of my right side cerebellum. At the age of 5 I started throwing up food always. I continually throwed up food until I reached 30 pounds. They kept testing me and nothing came up. Finally they decided to do an MRI on me and see well maybe it's something about the brain. Oh what do you know 5 1/2 years old and they found the fast growing cancer. Was instantly put on surgery in 2 days after the MRI. Because my weight was so low as I was throwing up everything, they put me on steroids after the surgery so I would become more hungry. I was on the steroids regimen for about 2 years. I also had to take eye drops for a year. I had to re-learn how to walk as the cerebellum holds balance within the brain. Now that I only had the left cerebellum relearning how to walk wasn't easy and took me about 5 months in the hospital to relearn how to walk. This was all when I was 5 years old and the steroids and eye drops until mid 6 years old.That's not the main or only reason mind. If it was just big evil pharma, where's the socialist country with the cure for cancer. And having lots of family and friends that are researchers or doctors also with family members with cancer, how would the scam work, someone would raise hell and speak out if it was actually curable.
Cancer is really a collection of hundreds or more things that can go wrong, hence why some actually are extremely treatable now where some are very challenging. I wish there was some cure, my mom has glioblastoma, which is just an extra assholeish version with multiple types going on so a hard single thing to target. They're also cells from your own body, so they have ways to evade immune cell deletion.
I have high hopes for mRNA vaccines, though that's going to be late for us. Ironic that something as bad as covid may give us one of our best tools against it in the future.
I don't know about that. There are a few animals out there that are basically immune to cancer. I can imagine a future where we can use some sort of gene manipulation on humans to give us the same benefits.Cancer is the mechanism where your cells continue to replicate en masse. There will never *be* a cure. There will be treatments to prevent cancers or even stop them at times, but live long enough you will eventually have a cell that becomes cancerous. It is just a form of natural selection built into our bodies. It ensures that we continue to evolve.
Gliobastoma was my first cancer I ever got. It was consuming almost all of my right side cerebellum. At the age of 5 I started throwing up food always. I continually throwed up food until I reached 30 pounds. They kept testing me and nothing came up. Finally they decided to do an MRI on me and see well maybe it's something about the brain. Oh what do you know 5 1/2 years old and they found the fast growing cancer. Was instantly put on surgery in 2 days after the MRI. Because my weight was so low as I was throwing up everything, they put me on steroids after the surgery so I would become more hungry. I was on the steroids regimen for about 2 years. I also had to take eye drops for a year. I had to re-learn how to walk as the cerebellum holds balance within the brain. Now that I only had the left cerebellum relearning how to walk wasn't easy and took me about 5 months in the hospital to relearn how to walk. This was all when I was 5 years old and the steroids and eye drops until mid 6 years old.
Where is the gliobastoma cancer at in her?It's a terrible one man, sucks you had to go through that young, but it's amazing that you're alive, and you sound like your mind is working great.
Mom is beyond the average prognosis, which isn't long as you know and hasn't changed much in decades, but in hospice now and has taken a few sharp steps down unfortunately. I wish there was something more I could do, but the sum total of human knowledge doesn't seem there yet.
I think it started near motor control, at first they were treating it like vertigo until that didn't get better and we insisted on an MRI, then they thought it was an Oligodendroglioma from the shape, and on a biopsy figured out it was a Glioblastoma, so kind of worse every step from what they thought. But now it's spread a lot and they don't do MRIs anymore, her short term memory is about gone, she can't move out of bed, and her cognition is much declined. It was sad because she's just the age where she should have started to think of retirement and having at least two good decades in the tank.Where is the gliobastoma cancer at in her?
That is absolutely brutal man. Glioblastoma cancer from my understanding is probably amongst the roughest cancers in existence. It's in the brain for starters and that's the main computer that controls everything, a humungous tumour in the skull is bound to wreak all sorts of havoc. I'm honestly surprised that you're alive today as most people have an extremely low chance of survival. You're one of the lucky ones dude.Gliobastoma was my first cancer I ever got. It was consuming almost all of my right side cerebellum. At the age of 5 I started throwing up food always. I continually throwed up food until I reached 30 pounds. They kept testing me and nothing came up. Finally they decided to do an MRI on me and see well maybe it's something about the brain. Oh what do you know 5 1/2 years old and they found the fast growing cancer. Was instantly put on surgery in 2 days after the MRI. Because my weight was so low as I was throwing up everything, they put me on steroids after the surgery so I would become more hungry. I was on the steroids regimen for about 2 years. I also had to take eye drops for a year. I had to re-learn how to walk as the cerebellum holds balance within the brain. Now that I only had the left cerebellum relearning how to walk wasn't easy and took me about 5 months in the hospital to relearn how to walk. This was all when I was 5 years old and the steroids and eye drops until mid 6 years old.
Thank you. I live in Minnesota. We have some of the best doctors in the world here and it's been known for a long time of course. I had my surgery at the University of Minnesota hospital. After surgery and relearning how to walk, I had radiation for about 3 months. Later in life when I was 26 I got another brain tumor on the left side of my brain. So now I'd say about 7 to 10% of my brain is gone. Yet I still function pretty normal, I can walk, talk, feel, understand things like normal. I've lost my hearing due to the left brain cancer that later become tumor as I took a drug from a doctor that reduced blood flow to my brain. I can still hear but only 30% but my ear wax always get dry so it's always blocking my hearing. I'm 36 now. I'm on SSI due to having a big hearing loss.That is absolutely brutal man. Glioblastoma cancer from my understanding is probably amongst the roughest cancers in existence. It's in the brain for starters and that's the main computer that controls everything, a humungous tumour in the skull is bound to wreak all sorts of havoc. I'm honestly surprised that you're alive today as most people have an extremely low chance of survival. You're one of the lucky ones dude.