Bo_Hazem
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Never heard of that game, but Gran Turismo is an FiA certified, and merges both real racing to gaming with gamers going to real racing careers afterwards.
I have no clue what that game you mentioned is so can't comment on it.
Are playstation gamers antisocial or is sony failing at creating an online community.
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Never heard of that game, but Gran Turismo is an FiA certified, and merges both real racing to gaming with gamers going to real racing careers afterwards.
I have no clue what that game you mentioned is so can't comment on it.
DonJuanSchlong
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Yeah iRacing is simracer while GT is simarcade. Big differences in the two. I've been planning on giving iRacing a go lately, now that I got a full setup. Been watching some YouTube vids on it over the last few days.
It has to do with the games players have grown up playing on each console. If you want big single player games your probably gonna buy a PS. So that leads to Sony having a higher % of people not looking for that social interaction. On the other hand if big multiplayer games with online communities are what you were looking for you were probably drawn to MS live, namely halo. These things are beginning to change for both consoles but it's how they started.
Mentat02
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iRacing is fun, I haven't played in a while because I'm doing league racing in f1 2021. I never realized how competitive f1 league racers are, I haven't gotten podium in any of the races and best qualifying position I got was P9 in Australia.
Mentat02
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"real racing" lol. Here is a quote from McLaren f1 driver Lando Norris about Gran Turismo Sport "Gran Turismo is terrible, it feels nothing like a car, you just slide everywhere. It's rubbish."
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The Last of Us Multiplayer has a great community. It's still easy to find a match today. MLB The show and GT Sport are both online, but I don't know how popular they are. Uncharted 4 was active when it released, but I stopped playing after about a year.
If Uncharted 4 goes to PC, I wonder if they're going to keep the multiplayer intact. I can see TLOU MP being released on PC day one, but I don't see it having cross-play.
If Uncharted 4 goes to PC, I wonder if they're going to keep the multiplayer intact. I can see TLOU MP being released on PC day one, but I don't see it having cross-play.
HTK
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Actually it's a simcade and yes Gran Turismo is bigger than iRacing. Although I did enjoy my time on iRacing and how everything is organized and more serious.
Tutomos
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Playstation is Fornite's number 1 revenue source, this will tell you everything you need to know. COD, Apex Legend, GTA V Online, NBA 2k21, Genshin Impact, FFXIV are some of the largest online communities on consoles, and the majority of the userbase is on PS4&5.
I don't know if the gamers on Playstation are antisocial (lol), but they are definitely playing online games and spending more on mtx than other platforms.
I don't know if the gamers on Playstation are antisocial (lol), but they are definitely playing online games and spending more on mtx than other platforms.
S0ULZB0URNE
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F this thread
Excess
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C'mon, this is a stupid question. While Sony's exclusives are often given the pejorative of "movie games", those games are what seem to give the platform a blockbuster feel. Yes, historically, Microsoft has been known for online multiplayer experiences, but that doesn't mean Sony doesn't have those offerings either.
LazyParrot
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I don't really think it is. Kinda reminds me of when people here cried about how Sony was doing irreparable damage to their reputation by staying silent on PS5 hardware for months while MS was announcing specs and features left an right. A year later, do people still care? Of course not. In another year or two, are people even going to remember that MS beat Sony to the punch in that regard? I highly doubt it. Hell, 99% of Playstation owners don't keep up with this stuff anyway.
This shit is gonna be the same. Sony are working on a bunch of games. They will announce them at some point, then release them a year or two later. They probably won't be terrible, and people will buy them.
Sander Cohen
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Ouch, never heard of that quote and I'm a regular F1 viewer and semi-fan. Big fan of GT Sport but now…maybe not so much
Krappadizzle
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"Party Chat" is what's killing online community engagement. Which is a double-edged sword. Sometimes you'll meet some great people being in an open lobby playing a new MP game. More often than not you'll be hearing a screeching edge-lord spouting off racist/sexist shit. Which honestly, after early-days of Xbox-live, there isn't much that even bothers/phases me when it comes to hearing what people will say(seriously, Xbox-live early days Unreal Championship/Moto-GP/Halo 2 was the wild-fucking-west of voice chat) and people now-a-days would fucking die if they heard the vile shit people would say back then. Now though? It just get's exhausting hearing people espousing ALL the bullshit I've heard already and I'll just mute everyone almost instantly or just stay in a party chat myself.
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namekuseijin
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yes, they're the last bastion of epic single player games.
I don't give a fuck to multiplayer or any communism. Social folks are not really "gaming", they're pushing buttons as an excuse to chat or whatever. Go chat elsewhere and leave my favorite hobby alone, assholes!
I don't give a fuck to multiplayer or any communism. Social folks are not really "gaming", they're pushing buttons as an excuse to chat or whatever. Go chat elsewhere and leave my favorite hobby alone, assholes!
Is this true?
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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In large part this is a very true and funny statement. That said however, I have a circle of mates from simply meeting them randomly online over the decades and we come together for a LAN party and paintball weekend annually. People of differing ages, gender and background too. My son and daughter have both curated school friends of similar ilk. This has all been on Xbox and not their PC or Nintendo or discord or Playstation platforms.
If it wasn't for the smaller percentage of meeting great people with similar interests online it would be a cold multiplayer world indeed. Some of these guys and girls I talk/game with near daily, we can hop on and just see who's on and playing what. Mostly from my local state but a few interstate and they travel to meet up as well.
I get that it's different for everyone and each game community around it but when you meet good people you stick together. Xbox has been delivering on this for years for me/friends. Zero complaints with that curating into PC/Xbox/App/Devices and across more games than ever with gamepass and the Xbox ecosystem. It's been brilliant playing ranked Apex with a full squad, grinding back in Destiny 2 to play refurbished raids or throwing on Golfing with Friends for a laugh and ribbing.
Some of the gals have chatted about gaming date nights via their XBL as well. It's not just a random dweeb fest out there is what I'm saying. I do agree there is a massive weighting to absolute twats and trolls online though, that's with anything though.
AeonGaidenRaiden
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Im confused, from all those games you mentioned, only HALO is a real multiplayer mamoth for xbox. It was since day one. Ovewatch....Fortnite...did someone forget to tell you these games are on PS and do just as well? So if you want a full online support, Gran Turismo Sport is full fledged massive online community for 4 years straight. What are you looking for, Spiderman mp, TLOU2 mp to be as big as a online focused game? SONY is doing just fine and they have all the third party MP games under their belt as well. I dont think people are screaming for their Ace Combat 7 which by the way is still getting MP support with new items, to be this massive thing like COD.
alabtrosMyster
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Great another brainiac who thinks social networks are the real world.
Kilau
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I have less than zero interest in online gaming to the point that I'll actively avoid a game if it's main aspect is online play especially PvP.
If I can't pause the game I'm not touching it(Monster Hunter the one exception)
Besides, most online games are designed to be time sinks that push you to the in game store, nope.
So I hope Sony continues to push the single player experience but can build on whatever community features people want.
If I can't pause the game I'm not touching it(Monster Hunter the one exception)
Besides, most online games are designed to be time sinks that push you to the in game store, nope.
So I hope Sony continues to push the single player experience but can build on whatever community features people want.
TheInfamousKira
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I'm antisocial as fuck, and I've never owned an Xbox, so I'm gonna say yes. Because I have no friends or social skills, thus rendering my sole experience 100% of my single player reality.
Why work with other people, get dragged down by their failures, sent into a rage, and eventually yell at 13 year olds about planting their mom in their bed while they're at school? Sounds too much like real life to me. That shit I play games to escape from.
Why work with other people, get dragged down by their failures, sent into a rage, and eventually yell at 13 year olds about planting their mom in their bed while they're at school? Sounds too much like real life to me. That shit I play games to escape from.
onnextflix5
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Honestly i think playstation has great balance of online multiplayer and great single player games, shame some of u xbox fans can't seem too see that, really hope xbox can find that balance,
Crimson_Fate
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Single player experience is the most important thing for Sony, you have your Experience, you can grind for platinum if you want but when your done they want you to have a new experience . Sony knows its bread and butter is selling games , single player games are finite . Online play will increase your time between new games and MMO's can actually put a stop to any new game purchases.
I won't play MMO's again, they are endless grinding money pits . I will play some online but single player mainly unless its racing games.
I won't play MMO's again, they are endless grinding money pits . I will play some online but single player mainly unless its racing games.
Derktron
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So wait help me understand the intelligence you seem to have, you are implying that PlayStation is for people who are anti-social while Xbox is not? -- DO you have the data to back that up, can you prove any scientific articles? I mean you got to help me understand that.
DrAspirino
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Yet those are 3rd party games.
What I understand this thread is, it's that it's about Sony 1st party multiplayer offering, which pales compared to their Single Player offering. Apart from Gran Turismo, they haven't been able to create a community on their own (like Microsoft or Nintendo), relying exclusively on 3rd parties for that.
Whether that's good or bad depends on people's tastes, but the lack of a PS-exclusive online community is a fact.
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TheInfamousKira
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Nah. I figure once a hobby starts making me look up research and studies, I need a new hobby. I'm just going by the number of single player big hitters versus multi-player ones. Sony seems to trend towards the solo experience barring indies and multi plat stuff. I can't really think of too many single player exclusives that moved hardware on Microsofts' end. Fable? Alan Wake? Granted, it's a blind spot for me, as I've never owned one, as stated previously, so maybe there's a lot under my radar.
Handel
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Sony having crap multiplayer games has always been one of their flaws. They also put roadblocks to multiplayer like needing multitap on PS2 to have more than two players at once. Player bases for popular multiplayer games can get big on PS4 due to install base being so huge, but by and large the Sony hardcore are conditioned towards single player.
If they try their hands at a multiplayer focused game again, wouldn't mind another Twisted Metal title.
If they try their hands at a multiplayer focused game again, wouldn't mind another Twisted Metal title.
Handel
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They really do need to somehow find a way to combine all of these video game online communities into the playstation online community.
The home idea is a good start. I'd go the evil route and tie the outfits and cars you can buy in Sony games and even third party games and have them be downloadable and useable in several Sony several online games whether it be shooters, to racing games, to third person games. That way you would be more than willing to jump into a Sony online world since you already have purchased so many things that you would feel it is waste to not participate. Or do the reverse and have all of the outfits and cars Sony creates and put into one massive Sony online world to play in.
The home idea is a good start. I'd go the evil route and tie the outfits and cars you can buy in Sony games and even third party games and have them be downloadable and useable in several Sony several online games whether it be shooters, to racing games, to third person games. That way you would be more than willing to jump into a Sony online world since you already have purchased so many things that you would feel it is waste to not participate. Or do the reverse and have all of the outfits and cars Sony creates and put into one massive Sony online world to play in.
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vito_don_corleone_
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The same way you could say Xbox has always had a problem with toxic communities
AncientOrigin
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Actually PlayStation is the most social one.Don't forget PlayStation had something called PlayStation Home on PS3,where PlayStation players from around the world gathered and had a nice relaxed time chatting playing stuff.For games it depends on the games fifa sells way more on PlayStation than anyother platform so the community is of course there.
kurisu_1974
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Bring back the activity and trophy lists from friend's activities on PS5 so I can at least spam them with achievements.
xrnzaaas
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They don't have to be 1st party games or other PS exclusives. Tons of people play games like Fortnite, Apex Legends, CoD, Overwatch, Rocket League, Destiny or GTA Online on their PS consoles and they all are social. Meanwhile there are also Sony games for people enjoying strictly singleplayer experiences and I hope it stays that way.
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Calverz
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I agree OP. During PS3 generation you could see they attempted to try and create this with more multiplayer focused titles such as MAG. This continued into PS4 with the communities tab on the dash and early games with multiplayer modes such as killZone shadowfall, uncharted 4 and driveclub.
But I think once the "single player game only" money started to roll in, the focus shifted. They also ended the communities tab on the dash too. The ps5 experience can be pretty anemic. There is evidence that this generation they are taking steps to rectify this though. Acquiring evo, and having more studios focus on multiplayer offerings, as well as buying discord. But until they get that major triple AAA title that not only offers a good single player campaign, but also a competitive, revered multiplayer like gears or halo, things will continue as it is.
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding OP. We aren't talking about subscription numbers here
But I think once the "single player game only" money started to roll in, the focus shifted. They also ended the communities tab on the dash too. The ps5 experience can be pretty anemic. There is evidence that this generation they are taking steps to rectify this though. Acquiring evo, and having more studios focus on multiplayer offerings, as well as buying discord. But until they get that major triple AAA title that not only offers a good single player campaign, but also a competitive, revered multiplayer like gears or halo, things will continue as it is.
I think a lot of people are misunderstanding OP. We aren't talking about subscription numbers here
GuinGuin
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FoundryMusic
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They're antisocial? No. Obnoxious would be a better word.
Danjin44
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Same, when it comes to gaming I'm as anti-social as you can get, I cant stand other people in online and have way more fun playing alone.
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cormack12
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This is about three different questions in one, lol.
Multiplayer games - No, it's not Sony's strength and they generally suck ass. Leave the multiplayer modes to the established franchises. I'm surprised Factions even got the greenlight to be honest. On the flip side I'd say MIcrosofts games are miles away from their heights as well like Halo and Gears but they are still healthy.
General - I prefer Sony's approach of being minimal and getting rid of all the social feeds on PS5. It was very much a 'push to client' to model. I feel now I can engage with it on my own terms. Communities was a good idea poorly utilised.
Having said that Xbox is miles ahead in having a social platform in general. Little things like the true achievements app, the LFG section mean you feel like you don't have to go outside the platform/console while on it. With PlayStation I feel I need to go to subs/forums to find groups to play with consistently or a discord for a quick PuG.
Multiplayer games - No, it's not Sony's strength and they generally suck ass. Leave the multiplayer modes to the established franchises. I'm surprised Factions even got the greenlight to be honest. On the flip side I'd say MIcrosofts games are miles away from their heights as well like Halo and Gears but they are still healthy.
General - I prefer Sony's approach of being minimal and getting rid of all the social feeds on PS5. It was very much a 'push to client' to model. I feel now I can engage with it on my own terms. Communities was a good idea poorly utilised.
Having said that Xbox is miles ahead in having a social platform in general. Little things like the true achievements app, the LFG section mean you feel like you don't have to go outside the platform/console while on it. With PlayStation I feel I need to go to subs/forums to find groups to play with consistently or a discord for a quick PuG.
kyussman
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People like to immerse themselves in all the wonderful worlds devs can create these days,it's a lot easier to do that at ones own pace rather than having a bunch of other people running around in your game.....also multiplayer games are becoming less about the game and more about squeezing money out of gamers....suggesting someone is antisocial for enjoying single player games is pretty fucking dumb.
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CeeJay
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I think that a lot of the replies in this thread really do sum things up. It seems that PS only players are more than happy with having multiplayer modes tacked on as an afterthought to primarily single player games and simply don't want Sony to create games that are primarily multiplayer focused. In fact it seems that quite a lot have actual hatred for multiplayer only experiences such as Sea of Thieves that Xbox are going to be increasingly moving more towards. So maybe its better for Sony to just carry on with the single player experiences and leave multiplayer gaming completely to third parties on the PS platform, it seems to be what the fans want?
I can't really work out whether it actually is what the fans really want or whether there is an element of jealousy that they have to play down and show a clear and defined dislike for something that the other side does well. At the end of the day, your console maker of choice will (hopefully) listen to the fanbase and give you the experiences that you want.
I can't really work out whether it actually is what the fans really want or whether there is an element of jealousy that they have to play down and show a clear and defined dislike for something that the other side does well. At the end of the day, your console maker of choice will (hopefully) listen to the fanbase and give you the experiences that you want.
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Sony fans like playing with themselves.
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