Are remasters going to count in GAF's GOTY voting?

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Or will they have their own category? I don't know who takes care of it but I thought I'd ask as a lot of remasters are on my list for GOTY.
 
I'm personally counting the ones I haven't played to completion before so something like Metro Redux will make it but TLoU won't.
 
I think they should count if there are people who want to consider them their favourite games of the year. Though the fact that there's even a debate says to me that they wouldn't garner enough votes to actually win anything (I personally wouldn't consider a remaster in my list), making the whole thing rather moot anyway.
 
I'd be fine with it as long as the user didn't already vote for the same game last year.

Actually, you could probably just allow them and they still wouldn't get close to winning, given the resistance in this thread.
 
Phediuk said:
I'd be fine with it as long as the user didn't already vote for the same game last year.

Actually, you could probably just allow them and they still wouldn't get close to winning, given the resistance in this thread.
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Is whoever that is running the tallies going to cross check everyone with their previous year's votes? Seems hard to keep track of. If you make the rule that you can vote for a remaster as long as you didn't vote for the game last year, I bet a lot of people will vote for a remaster even if they did play it last year and vote for it, because really who's going to check that?
 
Have there even been any remasters worthy of this released this year? Was Pokemon that good?
 
The Citizen Kane and RE4 people are being moronic.

Here were the rules last year.

Game Eligibility

Eligible games:

PORT RULE: Games that released in your region in 2012 BUT NO EARLIER and have been brought to a new platform in 2013 are eligible, as long as you didn't vote on it last year.
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Very simple, you can vote for TLoU or GTA if you did not last year.
 
From the 2013 thread

Game Eligibility

Eligible games:
  • Games localized for your region and released this calendar year (can be retail only or downloadable), as long as it follows the "Port Rule," detailed below
  • Voting for imported titles is allowed. If you list an import game, please mention which country you are from. Otherwise I will assume you didn’t read the rules and the vote will not count.
    [*]Remakes and significant upgrades to previously released games
  • New expansion packs to MMOs and other games, but not the original game unless it too was released in your region this year
  • Mods of PC games that officially support modding
  • PORT RULE: Games that released in your region in 2012 BUT NO EARLIER and have been brought to a new platform in 2013 are eligible, as long as you didn't vote on it last year.

Ineligible games:
  • Ports that amount to “ROM dumps”, i.e., ports with no additional content or significant changes
    [*]Ports that are basically “HD ports” of existing games with no changes besides upscaling the game
  • "GOTY Editions" that simply collect previously-released content into a single package[/B]
  • Games that have not officially been released, such as demos or "alphas" and "betas"
  • Games that are incomplete, such as episodic games that have not yet had their final episode released
  • Games localized for your region and released on any platform in 2011 or earlier
  • Games released on PC in a previous year and released on Steam or other sales portals this year
  • Fan translations or other projects making unauthorized use of IP
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Relevant rules highlighted.

Basically, it depends on the nature of the remaster and how much they actually changed for the new release.


For GTAV, I'd make the argument that the upgrades have been significant enough to warrant eligibility. Same with Binding of Isaac: Rebirth. Not sure about TLoU.
 
Haunted said:
From the 2013 thread


Relevant rules highlighted.

Basically, it depends on the nature of the remaster and how much they actually changed for the new release.
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No, not at all. You actually missed the important rule.

Those port rules are only valid when the game was released earlier than the previous year.
 
I mean, let people decide if they really feel a remaster is worth the GOTY spot. I'd be a little disappointed if they did, but if people want it, they want it.
 
The rules need to change because from my understanding GTA V, Halo MCC or Last of Us are eligible and not eligible at the same time:

Rules that make it eligible:

Remakes and significant upgrades to games count too.
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Rules that make it not eligible:

Ports that are basically “HD ports” of existing games with no changes besides upscaling the game do not count.
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In my humble opinion it shouldn't count. If not then let people go wild and vote for the best games they played this year regardless of the year of release. Also I believe the rules need to be tightened. Right now it seems like it's a case by case evaluation. Considering we are entering an era filled with remasters, I believe it would be better to just say "game is only eligible in the year it was first released in your region regardless of platform".
 
Edit: Looks like rules will change this year. Good.

New year, new game votes. We can have another thread if we want to vote on the same games/remasters/re-releases/up rezzed stuff.
 
Of course they count. Re-releases also count in movies. Critics just don't vote for them, because they shouldn't win.

The only way that re-releases would win is if you don't value originality at all -- which, frankly, is a current sharp criticism of the mainstream gaming industry; highly stagnant, conservative, and reliant on classic methods. Take that concept to the extreme, and you get games being re-released with a resolution bump winning "best game of the year."

So, it can win. It's allowed to, just like updated versions of films can win best film of the year. It would make us look very, very silly if it won, however.
 
StuBurns said:
No, not at all. You actually missed the important rule.

Those port rules are only valid when the game was released earlier than the previous year.
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If it's decided that GTAV PS4 is a significant enough remaster/remake to be eligible, I can vote for it this year, even if I already voted for it last year.


NHale said:
I believe it would be better to just say "game is only eligible in the year it was first released in your region regardless of platform".
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No, I think that's a bad rule. Mirror's Edge PC comes out in January 2009. I played it, loved it, with your rule I couldn't vote for it in the GOTY 2009 because there was a shit console version I skipped on purpose two months earlier. That's a bad rule.
 
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