Jawmuncher
Member
So who are the police who are going through that huge thread to make sure people stick to that?
Are remasters going to count in GAF's GOTY voting?
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Final Fantasy VII GOTY 2015.
timetokill
Banned
The rules will be updated this year. Don't expect to vote for remastered games.
Matt Attack
Member
I'm really not sure. Something like TLOU PS4 I would prefer not to be in the running because I don't think it added enough, whereas a full remake like Pokemon ORAS should be counted. Then you have weird cases like Kingdom Hearts 2.5 which includes versions of games that were only released in Japan and have some additional content, but aren't really remakes either.
As long as people who voted for them last year aren't able to this year, I suppose I would be fine either way.
As long as people who voted for them last year aren't able to this year, I suppose I would be fine either way.
They obviously aren't. Nor do they make sure you've played the games you vote for.
If someone really wants to vote for GTA or TLoU again, obviously they'll try, but who cares? Neither of those games have any chance of winning, it's not going to make any difference.
I didn't vote last year, TLoU and GTA are both better than anything released this year, but I still wouldn't vote for them, because that's not the point of that rule. It's so people who didn't play them can still vote for them. Those people shouldn't be stopped because others are going to abuse the rule.
Yeah, you can, if the rules are the same this time.
But regardless, you can if you didn't last time.
Morning Star
Member
Do you legitimately believe nothing better has come out this year?
:-O
GTAV had a fairly substantial upgrade. Was definitely a good deal more than just an HD rerelease.
Is it a game?
Was it commercially released this year?
Then it should be eligible. I don't give a fuck if that includes remasters, virtual console games or some whacky Dreamcast shmup distributed on bootleg CDs in one German market.
I suspect the rules will be arbitrarily changed this year to avoid the chance of GTA:V or TLoU:R winning. I don't get it, but whatever keeps order I guess.
Was it commercially released this year?
Then it should be eligible. I don't give a fuck if that includes remasters, virtual console games or some whacky Dreamcast shmup distributed on bootleg CDs in one German market.
I suspect the rules will be arbitrarily changed this year to avoid the chance of GTA:V or TLoU:R winning. I don't get it, but whatever keeps order I guess.
Nothing even within the realm of that quality in fact, yeah. Bayo 2 is my current GotY, and it pales in comparison.
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
GOTY 2014 Contenders:
The Last of Us Remastered
Grand Theft Auto V
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition
The Master Chief Collection
Final FantasyX/X-2 HD
Bayonetta 1 (Wii version)
The Binding of Isaac
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix
Assassin's Creed Liberation HD
Cel Damage HD
Nah. Why take up candidate slots for games that deserve to be recognised this year?
The Last of Us Remastered
Grand Theft Auto V
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition
The Master Chief Collection
Final FantasyX/X-2 HD
Bayonetta 1 (Wii version)
The Binding of Isaac
Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix
Assassin's Creed Liberation HD
Cel Damage HD
Nah. Why take up candidate slots for games that deserve to be recognised this year?
Aquamarine
Member
Yeah. Pokemon Alpha Sapphire should count, but it really shouldn't win over a newly-released 2014 game.
Pathetic.
Haunted
Member
Make sure Binding of Isaac: Rebirth is counted as its own release and not a remaster.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Triggerhappytel
Member
This is probably the case.
timetokill
Banned
We're not updating rules to prevent specific titles from winning. Logistically there is very, very little chance of GTA or TLoU winning anyway.
We've actually been discussing rule changes on this count for a while now.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
I can literally feel the venom you're trying to spit by using that word.
If that was standalone, it would be my GotY...
theprodigy
Member
I don't exactly expect The Last of Us or GTA V to win again even if they were eligible again, so....
Haunted
Member
You and Cheesemeister? I'd like an invite into that discussion.
Chezzymann
Member
I really hope not. There's so many remastered games this year that the GOTY race will be almost identical to last year's and very, very boring.
Also, it would imply how bad this year was in terms of original games if most people on GAF vote for games that came out last year for this year's GOTY.
Also, it would imply how bad this year was in terms of original games if most people on GAF vote for games that came out last year for this year's GOTY.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
If MGS 4 can win two GOTY awards in a row, TLoU can easily do that with it's remaster.
It just seems so pointless. Three of the best games I've played that released this year (the other being Minecraft on Vita) will be ineligible, because, well, why?
What is the reason for not allowing them? Because we're worried people might vote for them? I mean, people that don't see the value in remastered titles aren't being forced to vote for them, so why don't they count?
I guess I take issue because as far as I'm concerned, you should be voting for the best game you played that commercially released in 2014. No further caveats needed.
Blame the industry for taking advantage and blurring the lines of what constitutes a remaster/remake, or the need for one.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I don't Left Behind is ineligible?
- Ports that amount to “ROM dumps”, i.e., ports with no additional content or significant changes
- Ports that are basically “HD ports” of existing games with no changes besides upscaling the game
- "GOTY Editions" that simply collect previously-released content into a single package
- Games that have not officially been released, such as demos or "alphas" and "betas"
- Games that are incomplete, such as episodic games that have not yet had their final episode released
- Games localized for your region and released on any platform in 2011 or earlier
- Games released on PC in a previous year and released on Steam or other sales portals this year
- Fan translations or other projects making unauthorized use of IP
then again he could change the rules again but whatever. I'm voting for the DLC, you can discredit my list if it makes you happy.
Good. I'm sure we have the attention span for a second thread if people want to vote for their favorite remaster/remake or whatever.
If GTA doesn't count this year, but it counts for PC-GAF next year... I'm going to rage.
It's not a game, it's DLC. I don't know if it counts or not, but I wouldn't vote for it, just because I don't think it counts really. Not that I don't think people should be allowed to though.
Did u play GTA V on current gen consoles by any chance?
i always let remakes in because i felt they were substantial updates to the game. regarding updated games or ollections (such as the orange box or metal gear solid: subsistence), i think those were allowed to be voted on too, although ports were only allowed if you had not played them before. i remember one year where a mortal kombat game was on the wii a year after it had been on the ps2 and xbox, but people could vote for the wii version because that was the one they played first and the one they grew to like.
i think remasters would fall under the definition of port. so if you voted for gta v, rayman legends, tomb raider, or tlou in 2013, you wouldn't be able to in 2014.
i think remasters would fall under the definition of port. so if you voted for gta v, rayman legends, tomb raider, or tlou in 2013, you wouldn't be able to in 2014.
Chezzymann
Member
So last year I could have voted for Earthbound? Dangit. I guess I can still vote for Bioshock this year.
Eh, I can understand it. I can understand those who disagree too, but limiting it to new games isn't a horrible idea at all.
This is a little ridiculous...2014 hasn't exactly been the best year for games, and The Last of Us: Remastered is easily one of the top 10 games released this year, just as it was last year.
Arbitrarily deciding that they're ineligible is non-sense.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Not in my top 10 list that's for sure. The Last of Us Remastered, Halo: The Master Cheif Collection, Bayonetta 1 and GTAV are all off of mine.
Why even limit it to games released in 2014? Why cant I pick the best game I played in 2014, regardless of when it came out?
As far as I'm concerned, yes. I can't see what sanctity would be violated by allowing that.
Because it's always been understood that you're voting on games that released during the year in question.
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