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Are there Bad Nintendo games?

Grubdog said:
Pokemon Colloseum. It makes me cry, hell I even love the stadium games, but a stadium game this is not. Worst attempt at a "game" ever.

Can't think of anything else.. Mario Kart: Double Dash is AWESOME by the way. :P


What's so bad about Colosseum?
 
Also, the original StarFox for SNES

I mean, it's basically unplayable. The thing runs at like 12 frames per second.


Oh no you didn't!!!!!!!

Slow framerate *BUT* the game was hella fun to play and has a GODLY john william-esqe soundtrack...

Cant believe people mentioned Yoshi's Story, DKC and the GOD of all 3D action *bow down* Mario 64 */bow down* all as bad games....that just blows my mind...

Earthbound a bad game??......um no!!!
 
Broshnat said:
What's so bad about Colosseum?
The whole game felt like a chore, the "RPG" mode was incredibly dull, lifeless and boring (although it had some great music), and the only reason I forced myself to play through it was because I thought it would unlock the stadium mode, turns out what I already had of the stadium mode was the whole game. I couldn't even have a two player battle with anyone that didn't have their own GBA, GC/GBA link cable, a copy of Pokemon and a billion hour save file, why did they take renting Pokemon out of it? Not to mention no minigames, overall I found it a huge step backwards from even the Pokemon Stadium games.
 
I couldn't stand Earthbound and never saw the big deal... I just felt the gameplay mechanics were absolutely antiquated in 1995, the balance was off the wall (I remember levelling up like 9 or so levels before fighting the first boss), graphics were absolutely horrible (no change from the first Mother except with the addition of new backgrounds), and the story was silly (which I guess might be a good thing, in hindsight). I never could get into it much at all.
 
I honestly can't think of any Nintendo-made games that I've played that are bad. Some aren't spectacular, like Kirby 64, Yoshi's Story (still quite a good game, just a bit on the short side), etc. but they're still worthwhile playing.
 
djtiesto said:
I couldn't stand Earthbound and never saw the big deal... I just felt the gameplay mechanics were absolutely antiquated in 1995, the balance was off the wall (I remember levelling up like 9 or so levels before fighting the first boss), graphics were absolutely horrible (no change from the first Mother except with the addition of new backgrounds), and the story was silly (which I guess might be a good thing, in hindsight). I never could get into it much at all.

Although the leveling up until the first boss is on a larger than usual scale, after that it's extremely well balanced imho. I never had to power level if I fought even a moderate amount on my journey, so it seemed well done. Visuals don't really make a great game bad, so I don't understand that complaint. I guess I could agree that it wasn't the best looking SNES RPG, but it still had its quirks and charms. The soundtrack was also f00kin' great, man.

And the story is just phenomenal, not because it's particularly complex or morally competent, but because it's the perfect parody of the majority of the cliche RPGs that were coming out during the SNES era. It was brilliant.
 
djtiesto said:
I couldn't stand Earthbound and never saw the big deal... I just felt the gameplay mechanics were absolutely antiquated in 1995, the balance was off the wall (I remember levelling up like 9 or so levels before fighting the first boss), graphics were absolutely horrible (no change from the first Mother except with the addition of new backgrounds), and the story was silly (which I guess might be a good thing, in hindsight). I never could get into it much at all.
What other video game has had the balls to make you just stand still for three minutes? Huh? None - that's right!

While I feel you are right about most of your criticisms of the game I feel that the point of the game was how ungamish it was. I mean, you could just select autofight and there wouldn't be any gameplay to it at all. Earthbound, not FFVII or MGS, was the first "cinematic" game (although of course there were no cinema scenes aside from some really crappy concerts).

Not to mention the character design is the best in any game ever.
 
NLB2 said:
What other video game has had the balls to make you just stand still for three minutes? Huh? None - that's right!

While I feel you are right about most of your criticisms of the game I feel that the point of the game was how ungamish it was. I mean, you could just select autofight and there wouldn't be any gameplay to it at all. Earthbound, not FFVII or MGS, was the first "cinematic" game (although of course there were no cinema scenes aside from some really crappy concerts).

Not to mention the character design is the best in any game ever.

Yeah right, that award goes to Fighters Destiny for the N64. Hands down the best chara... make that the WORST character design ever. Corrected. :) :D
 
Biglesworth23 said:
Yeah right, that award goes to Fighters Destiny for the N64. Hands down the best chara... make that the WORST character design ever. Corrected. :) :D



:lol :lol :lol

That was hillarious
 
~Did somebody say McTernaldarkness?~

NLB2 said:
Earthbound, not FFVII or MGS, was the first "cinematic" game (although of course there were no cinema scenes aside from some really crappy concerts).

So P. Diddy invented the remix, Apple invented the shuffle, and Nintendo invented in-game cinematics? GOT IT.
 
JackFrost2012 said:
~Did somebody say McTernaldarkness?~



So P. Diddy invented the remix, Apple invented the shuffle, and Nintendo invented in-game cinematics? GOT IT.

no Ninja Gaiden invented it!11
 
NLB2 said:
Earthbound, not FFVII or MGS, was the first "cinematic" game (although of course there were no cinema scenes aside from some really crappy concerts).

There were several Sega CD games that came before that (Lunar for example).
 
Oni Link 666 said:
Nintendo games don't get any worse than this one.

heypikabox.jpg

I agree with this post.
 
Animal Crossing
Eternal Darkness
Metroid Prime (though this adheres more to what Drohne said earlier)
Custom Robo
Pokemon Stadiums
Donkey Kong 64 - one of the worst games ive ever layed hands on, though ED ceratinly challenges that title

Reprehensible is an appropriate word to describe ED, as Drohne so eloquently put it.
 
Yoshi's Story sucked donkey(kong) dick, but I can't think of any other real stinkers from their inhouse titles. Perhaps there is some crappy Famicom game that I never played, but I didn't play it, so there ya go.
 
Nintendo does make some crap games, but they are few and far between. Hell, every publisher/developer makes a crap game once in a while. Nothing to be ashamed about. :lol
 
drohne said:
that's actually the fondest praise for metroid prime i'll ever permit myself. for all the levels on which i personally dislike it, i can't bring myself to call it "bad." it's solidly mediocre. with certain undeniable aesthetic accomplishments. that it defiles a franchise i once enjoyed is, objectively, neither here nor there.

i expect nintendo to enter a new era of bad games. their collaborations with genuinely bad developers like kuju and n-space should yield genuinely bad fruit. and the ds, as a bad console, naturally lends itself to bad games. should nintendo collaborate badly on their bad new console, the results will be prodigiously bad. i'm excited about the prospects.

edit: if eternal darkness had any redeeming qualities -- which it doesn't -- they'd anyway be negated by its gross acts of plagiarism. that's an automatic zero. further disciplinary action is not in my purview.

Yeah well you know, all the games you like suck too.

except for MGS.

Metroid Prime wasn't mediocre on any level, if it wasn't your cup of tea I understand, but the game shined both in gameplay and aestethics.
 
Eternal Darkness (played), Pikmin (played) , Kirbys Air Ride (not played), Custom Robo (not played), Doshin (not played)

Dissapointments.
 
not sure where all the Eternal Darkness hate is coming from. I actually enjoyed this game quite a bit. One of the few games my roommates wanted me to play so they could see what happened next. Admittedly, the game was far from perfect, especially the enemy variety could use some work, but it was definitely at least decent to good.
 
Here's the legitimately Acclaim-grade BAD Nintendo games, off the top of my head:

Yoshi's Story -- ambling and unfinished. It actually FELT like a slightly overproduced Acclaim game. It's really an abysmal and uncomfortable piece of game design.

Yoshi's Touch and Go -- singularly awful DS game with terrible controls and broken mechanics. Great visuals, though.

Kirby's Air Ride -- terrible, terrible level design. Honestly, a clumsy and unfun racer. It's obvious it was salvaged many, many times and finally released simply to recoup some losses (and it actually did, tragically).

Mario Pinball -- Nintendo and pinball have been consistently downhill. Kirby's Pinball Land was genius; Pokemon Pinball GBC was very good; Pokemon Pinball GBA was eh; Mario Pinball was fuggin' BAD. Lousy tables, no challenge, and terrible physics. Boo.

Any and all of the Pikachu crap titles (Pokemon Channel, Pikachu I See You) -- really, these are indefensible on ANY level.

I fully expect to add Metroid Hunters to this list.
 
Metroid Hunters is a fun game just from the demo.

I don't think Nintendo has really made any terrible games. Maybe some dissapointing/average software, but nothing terrible.

Hey! You! Pikachu got an 8.3 on GameSpot, but its average score is low. That might be one that you could say was legitimately "terrible".

Eternal Darkness has its fans and was very well recieved by the press. The game has an average score of 91% at Game Rankings, that's incredibly high and don't tell me GameSpot, EGM, etc. are pro-Nintendo.
 
Donkey Kong 3 was pretty awful. Aside from the crummy gameplay, the premise of spraying something up Donkey Kong's ass to make him move was a little too kinky.

Eternal Darkness was badbadbad, though I think that goes without saying. Other than random GameRankings whoring I think it is kind of hard to defend the game.
 
I never played all the way though ED, but I thought it was pretty interesting. For a survial horror game the controls were decent, the insanity effects were interesting, the graphics were solid, etc.

I think a game has to score under 60% overall to be considered "bad" on the Game Rankings chart.

Of that only Yoshi's Story and Hey! You Pikachu really apply.
 
Donkey Kong 64 is still average I would say. Good graphics, gameplay variety, terrible collectathon aspects of the gameplay.

Bad games are stuff like Zoids, Batman: Dark Tomorrow, Superman 64, etc.
 
Drinky Crow said:
Kirby's Air Ride -- terrible, terrible level design. Honestly, a clumsy and unfun racer. It's obvious it was salvaged many, many times and finally released simply to recoup some losses (and it actually did, tragically).



This must be that "signal to noise" thing you're talking about.

You played KAR for five minutes, right? At a TRU kiosk?


people talking shit about Yoshi's Story

this is the one with "Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy"?

idiots talking shit about Uniracers

oh jesus, just stop playing videogames already.

SanjuroTsubaki said:
The whoring of the Mario Party series. A good concept and fun game, but overkilled faster than you can say Army Men.

How exactly is it "overkill" when each game brings seperate challenges, mini-games, etc? Oh, they're all played on a BOARD, I see where the problem lies! *cries* *slits wrists*
 
Quick handful off the top of my head.
bad:
Anything with excessive featuring of Yoshi (excludes SMW)
All console Pokemon
Mario Party, all of it!
all post- DKC Donkey Kong titles

The completely mediocre:
All Mario games after Mario 64
F-Zero 64
Star Fox 64
Eternal Darkness

Could list many more but its not worth the effort. They've made their fare share of shit, and much of it recently.
 
I think F-Zero X and Star Fox 64 are brilliant games, so thats very, very subjective. I enjoyed those two games as much as anything on the PSOne/N64.

For me, personally I hate golf games, so I don't like Mario Golf, but I wouldn't say its a bad game just based off that. Other people would probably enjoy it, but its not my cup of tea. That's more of a subjective thing.


Donkey Kong 64
Hey! You! Pikachu
Stunt Race FX
Yoshi's Story

Are probably their worst games the past 10-15 years.
 
I have no idea what "Yoshi's Story" is, then

yoshis_story_64_1.jpg



this looks just like the one on the SNES - but it's not?

duh - fucking Yoshi's ISLAND
 
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